Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[saip]

Not just in! It is dated Oct 22nd.

[A_Gupta]

That is October 21st news.

[A_Gupta]

Is there any confirmation about Bagram?

What happened to “strategic depth”?

[sanjaykumar]

That was a comment on POTUS’s expressed desire to retake Bagram. Last week.

[A_Gupta]

The TLP is Barelvi and is hardly well-disposed towards the Pakistani Army right now. The TTP is Deobandi, as are the Afghan Taliban. Those are the two major Sunni sects in the Indian subcontinent, I believe.

Whom else has the Islamic State of Pakistan angered, in terms of sects of Islam?

[A_Gupta]

If India does get a lease on Bagram, will a Paki air assault on Kabul provoke air defense by India from Bagram?

[kancha]

A new live frontier emerges in India-Pakistan tensions - ET

Studies estimate that Pakistan could lose around 2,246 square kilometres of EEZ if India’s interpretation that the boundary follows the midstream is accepted.

They cannot 'lose' what was never theirs to begin with.
Indian claim of the boundary in the middle of the channel is the most logical and legally defensible one. But more than that, it is also enforceable by the Indian military and diplomacy at this point in our history.

[Hriday]

https://x.com/OsintUpdates/status/19841 ... EYfnw&s=19

Alleged footage of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorist Sheikh Moeez Mujahid, a close aide of terrorist Hafiz Saeed, being shot dead by unknown gunmen outside his home in Pakistan.

He was accused of multiple terrorist attacks in India.

Unknown Gunmen shot dead Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorist Sheikh Moeez Mujahid outside his house in Kot Radha Kishan, Kasur district, Punjab province, Pakistan.

One 31 second video and 3 photos in the link above.

Now have to confirm from known news agencies. Forum member Deans had a detailed blog on the topic. He said that if these killings continue it may affect the recruitments of terrorists. It is also a bad publicity for Pakistan. If these photos are spreading through OSINT handles, then somebody really want to publicize it and it must Indian agencies, isn't it?

[A_Gupta]

When should we begin to worry about Pakistan?

Perhaps when the women take over (which with Pakistan's Islami nazara will never happen).

I'm listening to 5 Pakistani economists, 3 men and 2 women.

The men - IMF this and IMF that. The women - we had a liquidity problem, IMF lent us money. How are we going to use the money effectively? Don't blame the IMF, it is our job not their job to figure this out.

The men - private sector this and private sector that. The women - as long as you have businessmen who don't want to expand to international markets because it will require hiring a CEO more capable than their son-in-law (or son), private sector is not going to work.

The men - we need lower corporate taxes, less regulations, blah, blah. The women - nobody in Pakistan disagrees with these, and the agreement is longstanding. You guys have an in with the government, have you discussed this with the Finance Minister? (The men, hmmm, ummm, and one man outright- but we don't know what to say).

IMO, the men are "circles must be round"; the women are "here's how to draw a circle" - simply more practical.

[A_Gupta]

I missed this news from June - was it discussed here?

The Pakistani Government announced on June 6, 2025, through its official X account, the signing of a $4.6 billion defense agreement with Azerbaijan for the sale of 40 JF-17 Thunder fighter jets, accompanied by a $2 billion investment package.

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Per AI, this is what Pakistan manufactures:

Pakistan manufactures 58% of the JF-17's airframe, including the front fuselage, wings, and vertical stabilizer, with final assembly and serial production also occurring in Pakistan. Pakistan's manufacturing capabilities extend to other components like some avionics, and for the latest Block 3 variant, Pakistan also intends to produce the radar system locally.

Pakistan's manufacturing roles

Airframe: Pakistan produces the majority of the physical structure, such as the front fuselage, wings, and vertical stabilizer.

Sub-assemblies and integration: At the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, sub-assemblies are built and integrated into the final aircraft during the final assembly process.

Avionics: Pakistan also manufactures various avionics and cockpit displays.

Production facilities: Serial production takes place in Pakistan at the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory (AMF) in Kamra.

Chinese and Russian contributions

China: Provides the remaining 42% of the airframe components and other subsystems like avionics and flight controls.

Russia: Supplies the Klimov RD-93MA engine, which is used in the latest JF-17 Block 3 version.

[gakakkad]

the azeris later denied making such a purchase

[A_Gupta]

Via the Dawn:

Pakistan nurtured and supported mujahideen groups during the 1980s and 1990s, and later the Taliban, aiming to create prototypes of madressah graduates and even non-religiously educated cadres through public education channels who would think like Pakistanis and share its anti-Indian outlook. The project was strategic: to limit Indian influence in Afghanistan and to secure a friendly government on Pakistan’s western flank.

The project failed because the religious dogma embraced by the Taliban, many Pakistani madressahs, and religious elites presents a different vision of the state. They view Pakistan as a polity with weak ideological credentials that ought to be replaced by a ‘proper’ Islamic system. For that transformation, they regard political and armed struggle as necessary.

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They interpret alliances and support during wartime as instruments of divine providence rather than acts of friendship. Assistance from states like Pakistan is thus viewed as part of God’s plan, not a favour that demands reciprocity.

[gakakkad]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/tribune.co ... ns%3famp=1

Karachi

Because of asmani bijli 100s of homes and several factories have been burning for days now because of separate unrelated incidents that coincidentally happened all at the same time .

[Amber G.]

The Pakistani government reportedly wants to receive $10,000 from Israel for each soldier deployed to the Gaza Strip, while Israel is only offering $100 per soldier.

[ritesh]

When should we begin to worry about Pakistan?

Perhaps when the women take over (which with Pakistan's Islami nazara will never happen).

I'm listening to 5 Pakistani economists, 3 men and 2 women.

The men - IMF this and IMF that. The women - we had a liquidity problem, IMF lent us money. How are we going to use the money effectively? Don't blame the IMF, it is our job not their job to figure this out.

The men - private sector this and private sector that. The women - as long as you have businessmen who don't want to expand to international markets because it will require hiring a CEO more capable than their son-in-law (or son), private sector is not going to work.

The men - we need lower corporate taxes, less regulations, blah, blah. The women - nobody in Pakistan disagrees with these, and the agreement is longstanding. You guys have an in with the government, have you discussed this with the Finance Minister? (The men, hmmm, ummm, and one man outright- but we don't know what to say).

IMO, the men are "circles must be round"; the women are "here's how to draw a circle" - simply more practical.

Can you pls post the link??

[A_Gupta]

the azeris later denied making such a purchase

Thanks! I was unable to find any Azeri official statement either confirming or denying. But such a large deal ($4.6 billion) almost always get some official comment or comment by an anonymous official.

So yes, likely the Pakis are lying as usual.

[williams]

The Pakistani government reportedly wants to receive $10,000 from Israel for each soldier deployed to the Gaza Strip, while Israel is only offering $100 per soldier.

How can they offer such a cheap price for a terrorist soldier Given what Israel knows I doubt they will even consider TSP soldiers for half a cent. It sounds more like TSP Faujs wet dream to earn some bucksees sending mercenary cannon fodder around the world.

[Rudradev]

The Pakistani government reportedly wants to receive $10,000 from Israel for each soldier deployed to the Gaza Strip, while Israel is only offering $100 per soldier.

For about $100 they could get a realistically-proportioned mannequin (the kind you find in garment stores), clothe it with full combat gear and stand it up at a post. It will be as useful as any Pakistani soldier in a combat situation and as an added incentive, it won't shoot/stab you in the back yelling AOA.

[Anujan]

Israel should pay at least $800. UN Peacekeeping records mention that one Pakistani soldier can typically do what about 8 soldiers from other countries can do.

[Manish_P]

Don't forget the JST component.

Jizya Service Tax

[SSridhar]

Israel should pay at least $800. UN Peacekeeping records mention that one Pakistani soldier can typically do what about 8 soldiers from other countries can do.

Oh, 1:10 is only against the Hanuds then?

[g.sarkar]

Israel should pay at least $800. UN Peacekeeping records mention that one Pakistani soldier can typically do what about 8 soldiers from other countries can do.

Please Sirji,
No one will pay $800. Even sex dolls come cheaper than that and function better, I am sure.
Gautam

[A_Gupta]

Can you pls post the link??

https://youtu.be/W_NORiftnBU?si=A69Iv4sUW6vz1Sdb

[A_Gupta]

Pakistan’s navy is set to have Chinese subs in 2026. What does it mean for India?
The delivery also suggests that Beijing has overcome a major technical hurdle in the vessels’ construction, observers say
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/militar ... e=homepage

[sanjaykumar]

Sec dolls in the countenance of Pakistani soldiers?


Arrgh the mental image.


Now I have to do a yatra of all four major peeths.

[A_Gupta]

Two Bangladeshi youths killed in fighting for TTP in Pakistan in September 2025, says CTTI official
https://www.satp.org/terrorism-update/t ... i-official

A youth from Muksudpur Upazila (Sub-District) in Gopalganj District, identified as Ratan Dhali (29) and another Bangladeshi, Foysal Hossain (22), were killed in a joint operation by Pakistan's Security Forces (SFs) in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) while fighting for the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) on September 26, confirmed by Bangladesh’s Special Branch Counterterrorism and Transnational Intelligence (CTTI) official Rawshan Sadia Afroze, special superintendent of police at the Special Branch's CTTI unit on November 5, reports The Daily Star. They joined the TTP after illegally crossing into India through Benapole land port in March 2024 before travelling illegally to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Ratan Dhali’s last contact with family was in April 2024 from India. The investigation intensified after Pakistani SFs killed 54 TTP fighters in Waziristan in April 2025, including a Bangladeshi known as Ahmed Jubair alias Juboraj from Savar. South Asia Terrorism Portal (SATP), quoting media sources, reported that SFs killed 54 terrorists attempting to infiltrate through the Pakistan-Afghanistan border near the Bibak Ghar area in Hassan Khel tehsil (revenue unit) of North Waziristan District in KP on April 27

[chetak]

[sanjaykumar]

Seems to me bilawal has his share of kapada and makaan, indubitably his share of roti.

[ritesh]

Can you pls post the link??

https://youtu.be/W_NORiftnBU?si=A69Iv4sUW6vz1Sdb

Thankyou

[Deans]

I am not able to post a link from Dawn, but they have started using ChatGpt to write their articles.

At the end of an article on auto sales in Dawn, comes this:
`If you want I can also create an even snappier "front page style" with punchy one line stats and a bold info graphics ready layout -
perfect for maximum reader impact. Do you want me to do that next ?

[saip]

^^^Today they have a disclaimer saying they are 'investigating' how CharGPT was used, which they say is a violation of their editorial policy.

[sanjaykumar]

LOL

[A_Gupta]

I received some New York Times stuff. I call it American legalized bribery.

Pakistan signed a series of high-priced contracts with prominent Washington lobbying firms this spring, just weeks before the White House announced favorable new policies that gave the country one of the world’s more enviable tariff rates and an edge over its archrival, India.

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But the lobbying contracts, which totaled millions of dollars and held out the promises of lower tariffs and access to Mr. Trump, suggest an additional reason for Pakistan’s improved standing: a campaign to influence the president, which included employing some of his closest confidants.

In April and May, as Pakistan ramped up its charm offensive, it spent at least three times as much as India on lobbying in Washington, according to contracts filed with the Department of Justice. As Islamabad rapidly hired lobbyists, including Mr. Trump’s former business partners and bodyguard, its relationship with the United States blossomed and India’s deteriorated.
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Over the course of a turbulent few weeks this spring, as the Trump administration raised tariffs on countries around the world and Pakistan found itself on the brink of war with India, Islamabad entered contracts with six Washington firms for nearly $5 million in eventual retainer fees.

Among the firms Pakistan hired was Seiden Law LLP, which subcontracted Javelin Advisors, a government relations venture. Javelin’s founders include George Sorial, a longtime Trump Organization executive, and Keith Schiller, Mr. Trump’s former bodyguard, who served as director of Oval Office operations during the first Trump administration.

A million-dollar contract signed between Pakistan and Seiden Law on April 8 promised “a mutually agreed upon number of meetings to enhance Pakistani-U.S. leadership level engagements at the White House.”

Another agreement with Javelin was inked on April 24, just two days after militants killed 26 people in a terrorist attack in India-controlled Kashmir, and Pakistan and India found themselves on a path to war.

Just weeks after the contracts were finalized, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, the senior-most leader in Pakistan’s powerful military, arrived in Washington, where he met the Javelin principals.

The following afternoon, June 18, Field Marshal Munir had a private lunch with Mr. Trump at the White House. It was a remarkable meeting: Pakistani Army chiefs had accompanied civilian leaders to presidential meetings, but there is no record of one meeting on his own with a president at the White House.

[A_Gupta]

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/pa ... 50919.html

When a senior figure from the Israeli Tourism Ministry was seen greeting Pakistan’s adviser on tourism at the World Travel Market (WTM) in London earlier this month, the brief encounter immediately raised questions about Islamabad’s intentions and shifting alignments, especially in the age of United States President Donald Trump’s renewed West Asia strategy.

[Rudradev]

It's good to remember that from the Israeli point of view, India can be taken for granted to quite a large extent. In contrast, even small signs of rapprochement with Pakistan, Turkey etc are highly treasured in Tel Aviv (and by Israel's backers in the USA).

Israeli policymakers and think tanks see having friends in the Ummah as very valuable. Normalized relations with Turkey, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, and HTS-ruled Syria not only substantiate the rationale for the Abraham Accords, giving Israel more credibility with relatively recalcitrant Muslim nations, but also provide geopolitical leverage against Ummah countries who are die-hard anti-Israel e.g. Iran.

India needs to take this into account when planning its moves.

[gakakkad]

^ any suspicion of the terroristani leadership cozying to al yehuda will lead to significant domestic detonations in tsp . Realistically they won't get a footi kaudi from them and will be business as usual with India .

[Amber G.]

Meanwhile - In Pakland..Rough times ahead….Field Marshal Asim Munir says:
-“Pakistan will respond to those who impose war on it in the same way as it did in May”
-“When a Muslim puts their trust in Allah, He turns the dirt thrown at the enemy into missiles.”

[A_Gupta]

And crashes the enemy's Mercedes into the dump truck?

[sanjaykumar]

That’s flowery rhetoric. I understand the Arabic of the classical age is of equal quality. Indians, be very afraid.