Military Flight Safety

[ashthor]

A Tejas fighter has crashed during a display at Dubai air show. Awaiting info on pilot.

https://x.com/zone5aviation/status/1991813510087823719

[mody]

https://x.com/PTI_News/status/1991819275968114818

No ejection ....fearing the worst. On the global stage.

[BhairavP]

Very sad. No parachute seen.

[S_Madhukar]

Om Shanti to the pilot! He must have tried a hard manoeuvre not giving up till the last minute

[Aditya_V]

Om Shanti to the Pilot and really sad to hear this.

[chetak]

Tejas Crash | Tejas Fighter Jet Crashes At Dubai Airshow | Dubai Airshow 2025

https://www.youtube.com/live/3oDeMyXqOGg

[Rakesh]

Please click on the link below...

https://x.com/CataPaul2/status/1991823106126540944?s=20 ---> Tejas Crash at Dubai Air Show

[Bharadwaj]

I pray for the lost pilot's good gati. Needless to say we will hear shrill noise from certain quarters- just look the other way and hope the best for our Airmen, scientists and production house as they fix issues if they need to be fixed.

[Manish_P]

.... Needless to say we will hear shrill noise from certain quarters...

Neither can that be avoided totally nor the crashes.

"The only way to avoid crashes is to not fly at all" - Rtd. Chief of the Air Force, Anil Y Tipnis.

The pilot's all know the risk and still step up.

May God give strength to the pilot's family to bear the irreplaceable loss.

The nation owes them huge.

[sajaym]

Seems similar to the Poland F-16 crash -- rolls inverted... then rolls back.... and discovers he's run out of ground...and makes a hole in the ground. Wonder if they had watched the Poland F-16 crash routine and decided to build safeguards into our routine to avoid this, then this could have been avoided. Totally avoidable crash I feel.

[Manish_P]

^ They do very careful calculations using various parameters like altitude, temperature, humidity etc to set a 'Hard Deck' to avoid such issue.

[Ardeshir]

Om Shaanti! Just saw the video

[uddu]

Sadly pilot passed away.

Defence Expert Nitin Vaidya Shares His Views On Tejas Fighter Jet Crash During Dubai Air Show

Tejas Fighter Aircraft Crashes: India's Tejas crashed at the Dubai Air Show. During the debate at Times Now's show, Blueprint with Madhavdas G, Defence Expert Air Vice Marshal (R) Nitin Vaidya SAID, "When a pilot takes off for an air display, there is a sense of pride in him and also some pressure on him..." Watch the video to know more.

[Rakesh]

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[Shameek]

Very sad news. Pray for strength to his family to deal with this irrevocable loss.

[SBajwa]

Very sad news! May Waheguru give eternal peace to the departed soul.

[Dilbu]

Machine can be fixed and replaced but pilot is a real loss. Wg. Cdr Namesh Sayal of No.3 Sqn.

[drnayar]

given the presence of the pakis , possible sabotage ?.. quite a few countries would be interested .. China , US included

[gakakkad]

Seems like the accident happened at low altitude high angle of attack during an acrobatic maneuver . It was a very risky maneuver and most air show crashes and almost all of the fatal ones have been during such a maneuver . Doubt any other angle to it. On an average there seem to be 2 fatal crashes a year in airshows ,most in us and Canada . Which makes me wonder why we even do these things , particularly low altitude acrobatics which don't really have a role in modern combat .

My hearts is with the pilot . May he attain moksha . He died in the service of Bharat mata.

[KSingh]

https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199189 ... 83174?s=46

The IAF’s lack of safety culture may have just killed off any chance this jet has of an export

Every other serious airforce have full time solo jet display teams but IAF throws their regular line pilots into this and then will act surprised when these are the results

https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199188 ... 88731?s=46

[putnanja]

Shouldn't the FBW have prevented this manoeuvre at low altitudes?

[Baikul]

https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199189 ... 83174?s=46

The IAF’s lack of safety culture may have just killed off any chance this jet has of an export

Every other serious airforce have full time solo jet display teams but IAF throws their regular line pilots into this and then will act surprised when these are the results

https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199188 ... 88731?s=46

No offence but you are simply quoting yourself in the tweets you have linked.

The same message here as there.

[Rakesh]

LA-5026 is the aircraft that crashed today in Dubai, UAE. I have updated the first post in page 1 of the Tejas Mk1 thread. The aircraft was from No 18 Flying Bullets Squadron, while Wing Commander Namansh Syal was from No 3 Cobras Squadron. This is the second Tejas loss for No 18 Sqn, as LA-5020 crashed in Jaisalmer, Rajasthan last year. I believe No 3 Sqn is the first unit to be raised with the Mk1A variant. Please correct me if I am wrong.

https://x.com/Griezmenace/status/199190 ... 04702?s=20 ---> Honouring Wing Commander Namansh Syal, LA-5026. Proud air warrior of No. 3 Squadron, the Cobras. Farewell, brave warrior.

[KSingh]

Shouldn't the FBW have prevented this manoeuvre at low altitudes?

This wasn’t a stall, FBW can prevent exceeding the flight envelope but not CFIT

Arguably it looks like the auto recovery feature of the FCS attempted to regain control at the end hence why there was no ejection (if the pilot was not fully conscious )

[Amber G.]

Sad news:

Tejas crash in Dubai: Pilot identified; CM Sukhu condoles death of Wing Commander Namansh Syal

[KSingh]

https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199195 ... 11890?s=46

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199195 ... 11890?s=46

Please do not post just links, please also post the text of the tweet as well. Please edit your post above and your earlier post as well.

Thank you for your co-operation.

[Amber G.]

^^^ India’s Braveheart Pilot of Tejas Fighter Jet Wing Commander Namansh Syal seen here in a video during Dubai Air Show with India’s MoS Defence Sanjay Seth, India’s Envoy to UAE Deepak Mittal and India’s Additional Secretary, Gulf in MEA Aseem Mahajan. ..Naman!
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[KSingh]

The views of an ex RAF QFI who has lead accident investigations into the red arrows and others

That's a negative to positive manoeuvre - a very dangerous thing to do - here's why.

When you push negative g, blood goes to your head and your body detects high blood pressure, dangerously so.

So it dilates all the blood vessels in your body to try and reduce the blood pressure in the brain.

Then when the pilot pulls positive g immediately after, the blood has unrestricted flow into the legs often causing immediate unconsciousness - I think maybe the pilot changed the manoeuvre to one that was less aggressive and flew into the ground

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https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199196 ... 87911?s=46

[Jay]

The IAF’s lack of safety culture may have just killed off any chance this jet has of an export

Every other serious airforce have full time solo jet display teams but IAF throws their regular line pilots into this and then will act surprised when these are the results

Are you saying that every time Tejas does one of these demo's it done by a random crew picked out of rotation from an operational squadron?

[KSingh]

The IAF’s lack of safety culture may have just killed off any chance this jet has of an export

Every other serious airforce have full time solo jet display teams but IAF throws their regular line pilots into this and then will act surprised when these are the results

Are you saying that every time Tejas does one of these demo's it done by a random crew picked out of rotation from an operational squadron?

I didn’t say random but yes these are not full time demo pilots like most other serious airforces have:
https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/199196 ... 24025?s=46


He was an experienced fighter pilot I’m sure but that doesn’t make him an aerobatics expert nor would he have been preparing for this event full time like most others who do such events do

[gakakkad]

k singh may have a point here. I don't think air show acrobatics needs too much emphasis in modern air combat training. I am passionately against airshows , i know people who almost died watching airshows. however if we must partake in this gladiatorial monstrosity their needs to be pilots who do it full time.