Understanding the US - Again

[saip]

^^^If all this true, may be the MUTUs on this board should change the name of DUMBOCRATs to SMARTOCrats!

[vera_k]

Well, well, looks like another sub-national US group may be funding the Pakistanis. Need to monitor this development given Omar's Pakistani connections.


Bessent defends Minnesota fraud investigation

“That money has gone overseas, and we are tracking it both to the Middle East and to Somalia to see what the uses of that have been,” Bessent said.

[Haresh]

Well, well, looks like another sub-national US group may be funding the Pakistanis. Need to monitor this development given Omar's Pakistani connections.


Bessent defends Minnesota fraud investigation

“That money has gone overseas, and we are tracking it both to the Middle East and to Somalia to see what the uses of that have been,” Bessent said.

This is from the UK, but Zoomalia related.

British wife of ISIS leader living in Slough sparks security fears

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/b ... af5&ei=126

[Amber G.]

I don't put it beyond Dumbocrats, i.e. letting those Somalis vote three times - MN for ya.

Only 3 times? Fox news said they voted 30 times and my local "patriot" facebook meme page admin confirms the same. They even sponsored flights from europe to mexico, and let them enter via southern border where the guv of the great state of tejas bussed them to heartland, right through the suburbs of overland park, and lenaxa and finally to the nordic communes in minnesota where they were welcomed by madam kamala. After they received their customory gift of a khat bundle, they entered the voting booths where the polling workers embraced them with open arms and open voting machines and they stabbed that switch until their fingers were worn out. I did my research and the above is all truth.

Beautiful. This is Pulitzer-level investigative journalism. I actually first heard a similar account from a poster — the one who kept ranting about power cuts in Bengaluru every summer until he was warned for a lifetime ban for posting 3 a.m. tutorials on producing blue hydrogen from Nilgai methane. He confirmed that the some even earned frequent-voter miles — every 10 votes got them a free latte and a commemorative Kamala bobblehead that nods ‘yes’ whenever you mention ‘election integrity.’ Truly airtight evidence.

[Amber G.]

^^ Important part:
Omar said about the welfare fraud scandal:

“You know, this also has an impact on Somalis because we are also taxpayers in Minnesota. We could have also benefitted from the program and the money that was stolen.”

She DID NOT say : (Any decent person would have done it)

I’m outraged that anyone in my community would pilfer from the public. I want all the perpetrators brought to justice. They are giving us a bad name and I won’t stand for it.

[Rudradev]

These somali SOBs are worse than the rohingiyas who have infested India with overt and covert help from BIF controlled local and FFNGOs who support them tooth and nail. That empowers them and sets the narrative.

Chetak ji, on this specific point I have to disagree.

They are horrible but they are not worse than the Rohingyas.

The Somali presence in the US is after all a direct consequence of Clinton's military intervention in Somalia in the early 1990s-- a typical "aa bail, mujhe maar" type of scenario where US troops went in, got kicked out, and then the Culinary Institute used its Middle Eastern network to help set up Islamist Murder-Squads like Al-Shabaab as proxies. So the fact of Somalis leaving their homeland as refugees and (in many cases) going to the US is directly linked to the US systematically ruining their country. Too strat-e-geric a place to determine its sovereign course, you see, being in the Horn of Africa and all. So whatever noxious Islamism the US confronts from its imported Somali population was inculcated and nurtured by the actions of the US itself.

The Rohingyas meanwhile are creatures of pure, intrinsic Pakistaniyat from beginning to end. They started out demanding that Arakan state should secede from newly-independent Burma and become part of East Pakistan, because pyoor Muslims should not have to live with a kafir Buddhist majority... classic Jinnah-giri. Over several decades they took the predictable ghazi path, forming a genocidal terrorist network known as ARSA (with Pakistan/Saudi/Qatari help, of course) to wage an Islamic Supremacist war of forced secession (I mean, 'freedom and self-determination' ). When the government and people of Myanmar pushed back against this Islamist land-grab, the Western-funded Globalist Media went all out portraying the Rohingyas as victims and the Myanmarese (fighting for the territorial integrity of their country) as their genocidal oppressors.

The West simultaneously embarked on a project of infecting all nearby countries with a plague of highly-radicalized Jihadi Rohingya 'refugees'... the ultimate target being India, which of course had no role to play in any of this. That's why I consider them far, far worse than the Somalis.

[Vayutuvan]

^^^If all this true, may be the MUTUs on this board should change the name of DUMBOCRATs to SMARTOCrats!

Every one of my posts triggers at least two BRFites

Seriously though, if I were you, I wouldn't ask my children or my grandchildren to take these Dumbocrats as role models. I would tell them to be neither dumbocrats nor cunningocrats nor GOPricks.

[Vayutuvan]

Prestigious New Jersey Suburb Introduces High School Club Inspired by Karl Marx

https://internewscast.com/news/us/prest ... karl-marx/

In a suburban area of New Jersey, a high school is drawing attention with the launch of a club dedicated to young socialists. A promotional flyer, which has come into the spotlight through Fox News Digital, presents the Highland Park High School Socialist Club, marking its inaugural meeting this Thursday during lunch.

Guided by an advisor named Mr. Girvan, the club invites students interested in exploring anti-capitalist ideas. The flyer prominently features Karl Marx, the iconic figure of communism, in a pose reminiscent of the famous World War I “Uncle Sam” recruitment poster, with the bold statement “WE WANT YOU.”


The flyer encourages students to “Learn ways to solve social problems that don’t involve exploiting the working class,” reflecting the club’s mission to educate its members on alternative social and economic systems.

(added later)

Highland Park is located southwest of New York City, and the median household income is more than $100,000, according to Census Reporter, which is well higher than the national average of $83,730.

[Vayutuvan]

More from that same article.

A March 2025 survey by the Cato Institute showed that young people increasingly favor socialism.

While minors weren’t surveyed, Cato found that 62% of 18-to-29-year-olds view socialism favorably. Meanwhile, 14% of respondents said they favored full-fledged communism. The sample size of the poll was 2,000 people.

Last month, avowed socialist Zohran Mamdani was elected to be the next mayor of New York City. The Associated Press reported that three quarters of New Yorkers under the age of 30 who voted in November voted for the 34-year-old soon-to-be mayor.

PRCA will be even worse, IMHO. Household incomes > 150K but they want to go full commie yesterday.

[vera_k]

Looks like a Rutgers campus is close by.
Google Map link

What came first?

[Vayutuvan]

That is not the New Brunswick campus. Looks like they are all in the vicinity.

[gakakkad]

they don't have good right wing examples to follow . also CATO and AEI are completely against the current trump admin and are also largely absent from government right now.

[A_Gupta]

When Texas Governor declared CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) a terrorist outfit as far as Texas was concerned, there was no reaction from the otherwise vocal liberal left. I figured it was because Democrats felt betrayed by the Mussalmans. Here is some evidence of that anger.

This Arab-majority city backed Trump. It's not going well.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1 ... going-well

I will quote from there the salient points:

I can’t even.

“The targeting of immigrants, the targeting of Muslim communities—we’ve seen this rhetoric climb over the past several months and I anticipate it getting worse,” Dearborn Mayor Abdullah Hammoud, who is a Democrat, told the Washington Post. “The fact that we do not have a strong counterresponse from [Democratic] elected officials at all levels of government is the most frightening, especially when the vitriol is coming from the highest office in the world. Communities are looking for people with courage, people with a backbone, who are willing to stand up.”

Despite Dearborn having a Democratic mayor, let’s take a moment to revisit the Michigan city’s own choices.

In 2020, the U.S.’s first Arab-majority city backed Joe Biden with 69% of the vote. Four years later, only 36% of the city’s voters supported Kamala Harris. Forty-two percent voted for Donald Trump. Another 18%went with Jill Stein. Although nationally only 10% of Muslims who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump in 2024.

And the city didn’t just help deliver Trump’s victory, they celebrated it. Politico captured it with a headline that needed no embellishment: “Dearborn’s Arab Americans feel vindicated by Harris’ loss.”

They weren’t just vindicated. “They feel like they’ve been redeemed,” Dearborn City Council President Michael Sareini told Politico. “They wanted to send a message and they did.” Message delivered.

A local activist even described the results as “we became much more politically mature.” But “maturity” apparently meant voting for the candidate who wants to expel Gazans and stamp his own ego into the rubble with golden monuments.

Osama Siblani, publisher of The Arab American News, put it plainly.

“They didn’t vote for Trump because they believe Trump is the best candidate,” he said. “No, they voted for Trump because they want to punish the Democrats and Harris.”

And punish them they did.

So why are the same people now demanding that Democrats rescue them from the very consequences of the outcome they helped create? Why are they pleading for protection from the man they empowered?

It’s not just contradictory. It undermines their own stated cause. They aren’t directing their protest energy at President Donald Trump or Vice President JD Vance—the two men who have backed ethnic cleansing in Gaza. They’re not mobilizing against the actual federal power targeting immigrant and Muslim communities. Instead, they are protesting Democrats who currently have no power to stop any of it.

That isn’t a strategy. It’s a tantrum on top of the last tantrum.

Civil rights activists didn’t march only in cities that had already integrated. Pro-immigration groups don’t target sanctuary-city mayors. Pro-choice activists don’t limit their rallies to states protecting abortion rights. Successful movements confront the source of the harm, not the nearest soft target.

If “political maturity” is truly the goal, then it starts with choosing effective targets and owning the consequences of political decisions. Don’t hand the keys to a man promising to do exactly what he did the first time around, except worse. And don’t go running to the very people you worked to defeat, demanding they clean up the mess.

That’s not courage. That’s not conviction. It’s just sad.

IMO, it will be a good thing if the Democrats realize who these people are, character-wise. These will stab their allies in the back in the name of supporting some off-shore terrorist co-religionists. The above article suggests that (some) Democrats have seen the light. Markos Moulitsas, proprietor of Daily Kos is a deep-dyed-Democrat. Now the question is whether they continue to see by that light, or choose to blind themselves again.

[Jay]

When Texas Governor declared CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) a terrorist outfit as far as Texas was concerned, there was no reaction from the otherwise vocal liberal left. I figured it was because Democrats felt betrayed by the Mussalmans. Here is some evidence of that anger.

This Arab-majority city backed Trump. It's not going well.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1 ... going-well


IMO, it will be a good thing if the Democrats realize who these people are, character-wise. These will stab their allies in the back in the name of supporting some off-shore terrorist co-religionists. The above article suggests that (some) Democrats have seen the light. Markos Moulitsas, proprietor of Daily Kos is a deep-dyed-Democrat. Now the question is whether they continue to see by that light, or choose to blind themselves again.

They will also learn this painful lesson again once their mindless support of some of these pro-hamas people hiding under the garb of pro-palestine will come back to bite them. To be fair, even within the democrats, it's the socialist-progressive caucus which is butt hurt and right now they are anointing the likes of mamdani as mainstream alternative. This will work till 2026 mid-terms and not sure how much traction it will have for 2028 general election. But if "Dementia Diaper Donny" decides to go for a third term, or introduce something similar chaos then who knows who it will be.

[Cyrano]

US and Europe love affair is truly over. Scott Ritter makes some interesting points:

[SBajwa]

"Ilhan Omar wasn't even elected by Americans! She was elected by 80,000 Somalis that Obama dropped in Minnesota'

But she got 270,000 votes. Obviously those 80,000 Somalis (who would not have voting rights to begin with) voted more than three times each while the white Americans were asleep.

Minneapolis has a largely white population and has historically supported Democratic candidates, much like New York City in its mayoral elections. Many voters opt for the straight-ticket Democratic choice without examining each individual candidate. Another issue in Minneapolis-St.Paul area is that the Uber drivers of Somali origin refuse to pick up drunk passengers, citing their religion.

[Jay]

Another issue in Minneapolis-St.Paul area is that the Uber drivers of Somali origin refuse to pick up drunk passengers, citing their religion.

Unfortunately, supreme court sides with these assholes in the name of "religious freedom".

[A_Gupta]

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday designated one of the largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy groups in the U.S. a “foreign terrorist organization,” following a similar step by Texas last month.

The directive against the Council on American-Islamic Relations comes in an executive order DeSantis posted on the social media site X. It also gives the same label to the Muslim Brotherhood.

[A_Gupta]

Ilhan Omar’s win in the primaries:
https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities ... es-results

Wiki:

Minnesota 5th Congressional seat demographics:
(Omar’s district)
Ethnicity
59.9% White
17.1% Black
10.1% Hispanic
6.1% Asian
5.2% Two or more races
1.0% Native American
0.5% other

The district is strongly Democratic, with a Cook Partisan Voting Index (CPVI) of D+32 — by far the most Democratic district in the state. The 5th is also the most Democratic district in the Upper Midwest. The Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party (DFL) has held the seat without interruption since 1963, and the Republicans have not tallied more than 40 percent of the vote in almost half a century.

—- meaning of the jargon:
What is the Cook PVI℠?

The Cook PVI measures how partisan a district or a state is compared to the nation as a whole.

What do the scores mean?

A Cook PVI score of D+2, for example, means that in the 2020 and 2024 presidential elections, the state or district performed about two points more Democratic in terms of two-party vote share than the nation did as a whole.

[A_Gupta]

Incumbent Ilhan Omar defeated Dalia al-Aqidi in the general election for U.S. House Minnesota District 5 on November 5, 2024.

Candidate % Votes

Ilhan Omar (D) 74.4 261,066
Dalia al-Aqidi (R) 24.6 86,213
Other/Write-in votes 1.1 3,768

from:
https://ballotpedia.org/Minnesota's_5th ... tion,_2024