India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

[drnayar]

Sharing an NYT article about how v\Accepting an argument from a law professor that no party to the case had made, the Supreme Court handed the Trump administration a stinging loss that could lead to more aggressive tactics.
How a Scholar Nudged the Supreme Court Toward Its Troop Deployment Ruling

https://archive.ph/lYLtW

[uddu]

India Draws a Red Line for US Trade Deal, Modi vs Trump Escalates H1B Visa Issue I Aadi

[chetak]

[saip]

Is this ten year old statistic?

[sanjaykumar]

I can understand Pakistani beating white Americans. With all three wives working at the cash till. But philipinos?

[Amber G.]

^^^Here’s a latest (2023–2024) disaggregated look at median household income by detailed Asian ethnic groups — the closest publicly-reported breakdown that matches the style of the older chart. It’s not a chart image but these are current, comparable figures from Pew Research Center and U.S. Census-derived data that researchers are using for 2023 ACS median income by Asian origin:

Median Household Income by Asian Ethnic Group (2023, U.S. Households)


Indian-American – $151,200 (highest among Asian groups)
Taiwanese-American – $133,300
Asian-American overall (aggregate) – $105,600
(From Pew Research Center -)

(Other groups from Wikipedia ACS tabulations – 2022 ACS basis):
Wikipedia
Filipino – about $109,090
Pakistani – about $106,281
Chinese – about $101,728
Sri Lankan – about $96,641
Japanese – about $94,319
Nepalese – about $92,262
Korean – about $91,261
Hmong – about $88,572
Vietnamese – about $84,572
Bangladeshi – about $80,288
Laotian – about $78,551
Burmese – about $69,281

The first three numbers above (Indian, Taiwanese, and the overall Asian median) are from updated Pew
The rest come from public data compilations of detailed ACS ethnicity estimates (most recently aggregated from Wikipedia using ACS 2022 figures).
Asian households: $112,800 (highest)
Non-Hispanic White households: $89,050
Hispanic households (any race): $65,540
Black or African American households: $56,490
Overall U.S. median household income (all races): $80,610
About $83,730 overall in 2024 (not statistically different from 2023).

[Rakesh]

From Darling to Discarded: Trump’s Second-Term Shift on India
https://www.sinification.org/p/from-dar ... irect=true
18 Dec 2025

"...a future 'contest for second place' between America and India in overall national power and economic size is entirely possible."

[A_Gupta]

There is a very "mature" way of looking at Trump within here. Also good exposition of India's positions.


This video was originally published by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.

India has become a key player in global affairs, maintaining relationships with superpowers and regional partners alike.

Following September's high-profile China-Russia-India meeting, how is New Delhi balancing relationships with Washington, Beijing, and Moscow while pursuing strategic autonomy?

What do these diplomatic engagements signal about India's long-term strategy?

What are the opportunities and challenges of India's approach, and how might it evolve?

Join us for a conversation with Samir Saran and Leslie Vinjamuri as they discuss India's foreign policy strategy and its global implications.

Speakers:

Dr. Leslie Vinjamuri, President & Chief Executive Officer, Chicago Council on Global Affairs

Dr. Saran, President of the Observer Research Foundation (ORF), New Delhi, India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AS0C42o-pM

[krithivas]

The article was an interesting read. It summarizes India’s predicament very well. BUT it remains a Chinese POV and on an overdrive to drive the narrative of the Indo-US schism. And for bonus provides an insight of Chinese self-aggrandizement where they fancy China on top, and others fighting for the second and third.

PS: Next year will be difficult (physical safety) for people of Indian origin and places of worship in the US.

From Darling to Discarded: Trump’s Second-Term Shift on India
https://www.sinification.org/p/from-dar ... irect=true
18 Dec 2025

"...a future 'contest for second place' between America and India in overall national power and economic size is entirely possible."

[A_Gupta]

Who is Ricky Gill, the Indian-origin 'wunderkind' awarded for India-Pak truce
Story by India Today News Desk
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/India/wh ... r-AA1TgeyL

Gill, an Indian-origin adviser to US President Donald Trump, has now shot into the limelight after he was awarded for his role in "negotiating" the ceasefire between India and Pakistan following Operation Sindoor this year.

The National Security Council's Distinguished Action Award for Gill is being viewed by many in India as a soft push by Trump to peddle his favourite assertion that he mediated the May 10 truce between the two nuclear-powered countries - a claim that has been vociferously rejected by India on several occasions.

Though this award is widely reported, I cannot find the date, venue of award, citation, or any official statement. Google AI says - since it is an NSC award, don't expect to find any of these. IMO, it might very well be psyops.

Microsoft Copilot says: "Here’s the bottom line: based on all available search results, there is no publicly released official NSC statement, no White House press release, and no publicly available photo of the award ceremony for Ranjit “Ricky” Singh Gill receiving the NSC Distinguished Action Award earlier this month."

[Amber G.]

From U.S. Embassy India: [/b]]

New year loading... but first, the rewind! Take a look back at the top moments that shaped the U.S-India partnership this year, while we get ready for another year of even stronger #USIndia ties.




I know this crowd—not all but most of the vocal Trump supporters, and I, among a few, was the outcast.,, But let me say it plainly: the embassy post is a joke. After tariffs, visa shakedowns, and bullying Indians, the peacemaker act is snake oil. No American or Indian will buy it.

The slide show is an insult to anyone with basic knowledge and intelligence. More productive would be honest articulation of major issues that need to be resolved with open minds.

Even X is having community notes:

Yes, U.S and India Partnership started on very positive. But then Potus threw the Bi Partisan diplomatic succes and partnership with India out of window by first putting 50% Tarrif, Putting 100K visa fee, harassing Indians, and then claiming lead peacemaker between IND and PAK.

Others are even more causing..

The 2026 U.S EMBASSY INDIA video on the relations is a joke.
@realDonaldTrump Needs to get back to reality. The Americans aren't buying this snake oil.
@marcorubio @JDVance @narendramodi @DrSJaishankar

[drnayar]

I know this crowd—not all but most of the vocal Trump supporters, and I, among a few, was the outcast.,, But let me say it plainly: the embassy post is a joke. After tariffs, visa shakedowns, and bullying Indians, the peacemaker act is snake oil. No American or Indian will buy it.

From U.S. Embassy India:
New year loading... but first, the rewind! Take a look back at the top moments that shaped the U.S-India partnership this year, while we get ready for another year of even stronger #USIndia ties.

Even X is having community notes:

Yes, U.S and India Partnership started on very positive. But then Potus threw the Bi Partisan diplomatic succes and partnership with India out of window by first putting 50% Tarrif, Putting 100K visa fee, harassing Indians, and then claiming lead peacemaker between IND and PAK.

Others are even more causing..

The 2026 U.S EMBASSY INDIA video on the relations is a joke.
@realDonaldTrump Needs to get back to reality. The Americans aren't buying this snake oil.
@marcorubio @JDVance @narendramodi @DrSJaishankar

The Russian s are now on record saying the CIA is now on a full war against Putin.. as usual orange man is bumbling along ...India / Modi is also a target., one just have to look at the list of people RaGa is meeting.

[Rudradev]

One thing I don't understand.

Anyone with above-room temperature IQ who meets Rahul Gandhi realizes instantly that he is an idiot. This holds true for all international actors who harbour an agenda against India, Modi etc.

The only question to remain in their minds is: is he a useful idiot? Can I make use of this idiot, or is he too much of an idiot so that any investment in him is going down the drain?

For years, many hostile actors seemed to give him the benefit of the doubt, investing in him with money, resources, promotional efforts, networking etc in the hope that he would unseat Modi and return India to slavery.

But it has now been almost 12 years and all he has demonstrated is one failure after another, diminishing credibility as a politician and an increasing tendency to sound unhinged & anti-national.

Yet they keep inviting him, sponsoring him, and meeting him. Why is that? Do they really think he remains their best and only hope (such as he is) of dominating India once again? Is it that they refuse to recognize a sunk cost fallacy in continuing to back him, because institutional inertia dictates that starting over with some new puppet is too risky and requires too much effort?

Or are they publicly entertaining him only to distract us (and Modi sarkar)? Is he the decoy for our attention so that we focus on him as their weapon of choice, while in fact the real game is somewhere else?

[vera_k]

^ Less about the person and more because the opposition is barren as a desert. Although if the urban legend is true, AAP is the long term alternative.

[drnayar]

One thing I don't understand.

Anyone with above-room temperature IQ who meets Rahul Gandhi realizes instantly that he is an idiot. This holds true for all international actors who harbour an agenda against India, Modi etc.

The only question to remain in their minds is: is he a useful idiot? Can I make use of this idiot, or is he too much of an idiot so that any investment in him is going down the drain?

For years, many hostile actors seemed to give him the benefit of the doubt, investing in him with money, resources, promotional efforts, networking etc in the hope that he would unseat Modi and return India to slavery.

But it has now been almost 12 years and all he has demonstrated is one failure after another, diminishing credibility as a politician and an increasing tendency to sound unhinged & anti-national.

Yet they keep inviting him, sponsoring him, and meeting him. Why is that? Do they really think he remains their best and only hope (such as he is) of dominating India once again? Is it that they refuse to recognize a sunk cost fallacy in continuing to back him, because institutional inertia dictates that starting over with some new puppet is too risky and requires too much effort?

Or are they publicly entertaining him only to distract us (and Modi sarkar)? Is he the decoy for our attention so that we focus on him as their weapon of choice, while in fact the real game is somewhere else?

He is the decoy ., the real actors are very much in India !!

[drnayar]

^ Less about the person and more because the opposition is barren as a desert. Although if the urban legend is true, AAP is the long term alternative.

"was" the farmer protests were nicely gamed. Modi saw through this. his one sentence calling off the farm law acts " in national interests"

it will come in another avatar

[Rudradev]

Nine US lawmakers (plus Zohran Mamdani) have added their voices to anti-India propaganda with unsolicited bloviations on the Umar Khalid case.

Khalid is a terror-sympathizing jihadi Muslim who openly advocated for India's breakup and for the secession of Kashmir from India (yes, the same character who chanted "Bharat tere tukde honge, insha Allah" and later was a primary instigator at Shaheen Bagh during the Delhi riots of 2020).

https://m.economictimes.com/news/new-up ... 298970.cms

Congressman Jim McGovern (D-MA)
Congressman Jamie Raskin (D-MD), Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), Senator Peter Welch (D-VT), Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), Congressman Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) and Congressman Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) are the 9 lawmakers who have advanced anti-India propaganda on their own initiative.

Every single one of these people is a Democrat.

[Rudradev]

[Amber G.]

Mamdani (and ignorant/bigoted/dangerous) needs to be reminded that criminals might be heroes in New York but not in New Delhi!


The handwritten letter:

[vera_k]

Someone's either paying these politicians to issue statements. Or it has been decided to grant bail to Khalid and India communicated it to a select audience to let them gain favor with their constituents.

Note that KSM of 9/11 fame awaits trial in Guantanamo still, and that's a much more relevant connection with NYC.

[Amber G.]

sharing
'AI-generated Pakistani propaganda...': HAF responds to Aurangzebdrey Truschke

HAF executive director Suhag Shukla responded on X and dismissed Truschke’s claim. Shukla questioned her credibility and asked how a historian could rely on what she called “AI-generated Pakistani propaganda” to attack Hindu Americans. “Let that sink in,” Shukla said.

On brand that her credibility is at such a low point that Audrey cites AI generated Pakistani propaganda to attack @HinduAmerican.


Let that sink in…

[S_Madhukar]

^ Less about the person and more because the opposition is barren as a desert. Although if the urban legend is true, AAP is the long term alternative.

"was" the farmer protests were nicely gamed. Modi saw through this. his one sentence calling off the farm law acts " in national interests"

it will come in another avatar

I think they will try multiple options in different regions. Moving target instead of one target. Create centrifugal forces just like 80s. Bring back a coalition, after all when the ship is sinking now is the time to let the mice loose. But the talent pipeline is bare yet when there are eager sepoys no effort is wasted effort , it is just a game of timing and probabilities

[chetak]

One thing I don't understand.

Anyone with above-room temperature IQ who meets Rahul Gandhi realizes instantly that he is an idiot. This holds true for all international actors who harbour an agenda against India, Modi etc.

The only question to remain in their minds is: is he a useful idiot? Can I make use of this idiot, or is he too much of an idiot so that any investment in him is going down the drain?

For years, many hostile actors seemed to give him the benefit of the doubt, investing in him with money, resources, promotional efforts, networking etc in the hope that he would unseat Modi and return India to slavery.

But it has now been almost 12 years and all he has demonstrated is one failure after another, diminishing credibility as a politician and an increasing tendency to sound unhinged & anti-national.

Yet they keep inviting him, sponsoring him, and meeting him. Why is that? Do they really think he remains their best and only hope (such as he is) of dominating India once again? Is it that they refuse to recognize a sunk cost fallacy in continuing to back him, because institutional inertia dictates that starting over with some new puppet is too risky and requires too much effort?

Or are they publicly entertaining him only to distract us (and Modi sarkar)? Is he the decoy for our attention so that we focus on him as their weapon of choice, while in fact the real game is somewhere else?

Rudradev ji,

he is exactly what the gora doctors have ordered.

what better puppet or patsy, especially when you consider the vast soreass and v@tic@n infrastructure behind this marionette.

recall what they did with neverwho or even raincoat and the disasters for India that they ultimately turned out to be

But whose fault is that, especially when we allowed foreigners and mongrels to rule over us. Did we really decolonize or did we unconsciously allow / accept the continuation of the colonization, albeit under a new and benign looking saree/salwar kameez clad "helpless" widow without realizing what had actually happened even as a v@tic@n backed mamba entered the nest

clowns like the soreass approved romeo rajan are in the run for the role of "ramu kaka", and the vast array of embedded commie and urban naxal babooze seeded and hardwired into the system by the BIF supported congis are the woke sinews

the play against India has come out into the open now, with orchestrated street violence, regime changes in the neighbourhood, inflamed narratives to rouse the street rabble in India.

the ouster of turdeau has quietened one major axis of this anti India thrust and have all but taken the khalistanis out of the equation.

The new years has already seen a renewed push from the venomous amrikis to stall Modi ji's and India's rise

Do we not have laws that stop people from conspiring with offshored global disrupters to take down the democratically elected govt.

Ask yourself, if not him, who else....... they already tried khujliwal and failed, even as they exposed themselves. We still have a govt that refuses to take off the kid gloves, insists on playing by the rules while the opponents don't even pretend to do so anymore.

This is the new form of urban and narrative based social terrorism and it's high time that it was treated as such

we are still stuck in the prithviraj chauhan era, while the enemy keeps attacking and we all know what happened after that and how it ended for prithviraj.

But one sees the first faint glimmerings of a serious pushback, as in the case of youanus and his beedi scum.

This govt has actually hurt the beedi swine economically by strangling them economically at the borders.

The question is: Is this a mere flash in the pan or the beginnings of of a more practical and robust version of neighbourhood geopolitics that is both proactive, protective and perceptive to India's own narratives and while being mindful of India's interests, without bothering about sickular outcomes or the need to feed the gandhi complex that has poisoned our international relations.

How many more years before Indians realize the BIF's stage managed persona and the manufactured narrative that ensured and foisted neverwho and ghundhy upon the unsuspecting and politically immature Indian public of the time needs to obliterated and a nationalistic identity, one that is more culturally representative of our times, aspirations and our civilization

[sanjaykumar]

Ordinarily, I am sceptical of conspiracy theories but it is rather peculiar that Kstanis have fallen silent with regime changes in North America.

In fact there is starting a publication of unsavoury activities recently unrelated to India by this crowd including luring, extortion.

[chetak]

Ordinarily, I am sceptical of conspiracy theories but it is rather peculiar that Kstanis have fallen silent with regime changes in North America.

In fact there is starting a publication of unsavoury activities recently unrelated to India by this crowd including luring, extortion.

sanjaykumar ji

the paki failed marshal has retreated behind a BP glass shield, even as he cowers in a very expensive BPJ

There is, at present, only one man in India (with neither BP glass walls nor BPJ protection) who is preventing the desert cults from storming the ramparts and there is no replacement in sight. This is not political bravado but utter foolishness

Worst case scenario, if anything happens, India will slide back into utter chaos, with offshore entities having a free run to establish huge pockets of influence, utterly undoing what we managed to get in 1947.

There are many anti national centripetal forces operating in India who will go all out to chop and churn.

Gone will be our economy, our geopolitical heft, and our armed forces backbone, our civilization and culture, with a ruined India providing a tough completion to sub saharan africa. India will be over run within the decade, if not earlier.

kaneda would never have confronted the amrikis under trump, if turdeau was still around and the khalistanis would have been ruling the roost creating enormous difficulties for India. They are still a G7 nation, however incongruous it may appear.

look hard at every so called conspiracy theory until it stops to quack and walk like a duck.

The farmer's agitation and the dilli riots had multiple collaborators aiding and abetting the perpetrators. The culprits are all the usual suspects, attesting to the global agenda to destabilize and stop India in its tracks.

Op Sindoor was not just a slap to the paki face. It has much deeper geopolitical implications and a much wider message that was deliberately delivered and unmistakably understood

India was showing her teeth, complete with second strike delivery mechanisms, and the competence and resolve of her Armed forces, coupled with her politically strong leadership which was legitimately elected, as witnessed by keen foreign "observers" all eager and ready to cast aspersions on the electoral process

And now, she is venturing out by "supporting" countries like afghanistan, israel and countries like greece, while punishing turkey, the beedis and the pakis. India poking around economically in africa has upset many an applecart, especially because the africans see the advantages of dealing with a very fair minded India which comes with no strings attached

This is not the India that the goras want to see but it may well be the one that they get because of their own misadventures and constant bullying

India is very clearly drawing her red lines and the pakis, the amrikis and the eurotrash are just beginning to realize it.

The eyeraabs have already seen these lines some time ago

Some times, from little conspiracy acorns do great geopolitical narratives grow.

So, was pak (or even the narrative of khalistan, nurtured by pakis but the kanedians ran/will run with it for long) created as a "country" or a geopolitical stick to beat India into submission with

[S_Madhukar]

To add - the risks get higher as the West further embraces the desert cult to keep the empire going… I actually worry because there are not many regimes left with the moral clarity and fortitude to recognise what is at stake… if any we are full of corrupt dominos all over the world

[A_Gupta]

Guantanamo detainees:
https://icct.nl/publication/snapshot-guantanamo-bay#

[uddu]

One thing I don't understand.

Anyone with above-room temperature IQ who meets Rahul Gandhi realizes instantly that he is an idiot. This holds true for all international actors who harbour an agenda against India, Modi etc.

The only question to remain in their minds is: is he a useful idiot? Can I make use of this idiot, or is he too much of an idiot so that any investment in him is going down the drain?

For years, many hostile actors seemed to give him the benefit of the doubt, investing in him with money, resources, promotional efforts, networking etc in the hope that he would unseat Modi and return India to slavery.

But it has now been almost 12 years and all he has demonstrated is one failure after another, diminishing credibility as a politician and an increasing tendency to sound unhinged & anti-national.

Yet they keep inviting him, sponsoring him, and meeting him. Why is that? Do they really think he remains their best and only hope (such as he is) of dominating India once again? Is it that they refuse to recognize a sunk cost fallacy in continuing to back him, because institutional inertia dictates that starting over with some new puppet is too risky and requires too much effort?

Or are they publicly entertaining him only to distract us (and Modi sarkar)? Is he the decoy for our attention so that we focus on him as their weapon of choice, while in fact the real game is somewhere else?

Dynasty provides them long term option/hope for regaining their lost Pan India control. Congress is a party that will not survive without Dynasts as its now fully modified to function in that manner. The next generation will be launched in the next election, until the Raga will continue. They have regional satraps in their kitty. Some got cleaned up by Indians and that space got shrunk. Still there are some more who are fully sucking the blood of the nation like leeches. It will take another decade for the Indian nation to clean them up.

[drnayar]

One thing I don't understand.

Anyone with above-room temperature IQ who meets Rahul Gandhi realizes instantly that he is an idiot. This holds true for all international actors who harbour an agenda against India, Modi etc.

The only question to remain in their minds is: is he a useful idiot? Can I make use of this idiot, or is he too much of an idiot so that any investment in him is going down the drain?

For years, many hostile actors seemed to give him the benefit of the doubt, investing in him with money, resources, promotional efforts, networking etc in the hope that he would unseat Modi and return India to slavery.

But it has now been almost 12 years and all he has demonstrated is one failure after another, diminishing credibility as a politician and an increasing tendency to sound unhinged & anti-national.

Yet they keep inviting him, sponsoring him, and meeting him. Why is that? Do they really think he remains their best and only hope (such as he is) of dominating India once again? Is it that they refuse to recognize a sunk cost fallacy in continuing to back him, because institutional inertia dictates that starting over with some new puppet is too risky and requires too much effort?

Or are they publicly entertaining him only to distract us (and Modi sarkar)? Is he the decoy for our attention so that we focus on him as their weapon of choice, while in fact the real game is somewhere else?

Dynasty provides them long term option/hope for regaining their lost Pan India control. Congress is a party that will not survive without Dynasts as its now fully modified to function in that manner. The next generation will be launched in the next election, until the Raga will continue. They have regional satraps in their kitty. Some got cleaned up by Indians and that space got shrunk. Still there are some more who are fully sucking the blood of the nation like leeches. It will take another decade for the Indian nation to clean them up.

as long as the village idiot serves its purpose .. the ukranian pappu baniansky is no brainer

[S_Madhukar]

Pappooz are the option premiums being paid… to hopefully one day be able to call them and start the loot again. When grubby B$ are on the table such millions are peanuts. We have a 1000 year problem to solve, certainly half-breeds won’t be the solution

[Cain Marko]

Pappooz are the option premiums being paid… to hopefully one day be able to call them and start the loot again. When grubby B$ are on the table such millions are peanuts. We have a 1000 year problem to solve, certainly half-breeds won’t be the solution

Half breeds? Really?

[sanjaykumar]

Ahem certain half breeds excepted. Indians have been called a lot worse.

At any rate gratuitous slurs are unnecessary and not really acceptable.

[S_Madhukar]

I can understand Pakistani beating white Americans. With all three wives working at the cash till. But philipinos?

Data point of 1. I know a Filipino married to a Telugu SWE .. may be that helps

But on a more serious note others are catching up strangely motivated and influenced by desi rise. A few years ago my Taiwanese friend show a blog that was urging them to learn from desi and move into leadership positions instead of just sticking to Engg and being more pragmatic about careers.

[sanjaykumar]

I went into a better paying field instead of academia because of the rising Chinese profile in North America. ( and have had regrets ever since hehehe).

[Rudradev]

I can understand Pakistani beating white Americans. With all three wives working at the cash till. But philipinos?

All the Phillipino American immigrants I've met have been extremely hard working folks. The 1st-generation ones span several rungs on the economic class ladder, from bus drivers & housekeeper/nannies to nurses and small-business owners. The 2nd generation are as likely to work in STEM, finance, law etc as any other Asian community. Many Phillipino families here have been here for long enough to have 2nd & 3rd generation offspring, so their average income has risen considerably.

They also have certain advantages right out of the gate (besides grit, discipline, and a drive to educate their children, which they share with other Asian immigrants).

They usually arrive with at least serviceable English, and many also speak Spanish— both languages are legacies of their colonial experience, but also serve them well in the US. They also have a better grounding in American dialect, idiom, and popular culture (thanks to the US military presence there) than most Indians, Chinese, Pakis etc who did not grow up in the metro cities of their respective homelands. So they work well in public-facing roles like service & retail. In fact, they've largely taken over the helpdesk roles— since about 2010, whenever I call customer service, I find I'm actually more likely to be answered by one of them than an Indian.

They look "Asian" i.e. Mongolic, so they receive some of that aura effect conferred upon other East Asian peoples in American popular perception— which Indian subcontinentals do not have (we look too Moslem or Mexican or Black to be thought of as "Asian = smart = stays out of trouble & works hard"). Yet the Phillipinos also come across as more "Americanized" than other East Asians. They are far more likely to socialize with white/black/hispanic people, allow their children to date inter-racially, etc.

Finally, they benefit a great deal from having tight-knit and interconnected social groups, often organized around the Roman Catholic church parishes they attend. These nodes fuel a lot of networking activity to benefit small businesses, employment seekers etc.

For all these reasons, I'm not surprised at all to find them among the top earning communities.

[sanjaykumar]

I am surprised. In Canada they are working class at best.

But maybe America attracts a more ambitious class of Filipino, much as it attracts a different class of Indian than Canada.

They certainly are a very civilised, respectful people.

[Vayutuvan]

I am surprised. In Canada they are working class at best.

But maybe America attracts a more ambitious class of Filipino, much as it attracts a different class of Indian than Canada.

They certainly are a very civilised, respectful people.

Saar, here too a majority of them are “working class” - I am not saying it in a pejorative sense - as you say.

[Amber G.]

Marco Rubio just said the quiet part out loud. Rubio didn’t cite law, trade, or consent...


“

Why does China need their oil? Russia? Iran? This is the West. This is where we live.”

Russia, China, and Iran must “get out,” Rubio said — because the Western Hemisphere is ours, and no one from “outside our hemisphere” is allowed in America’s backyard.

[Vayutuvan]

Among the BRICS, two countries gave up Nuclear weapons or Nuc weapon programs - SA and Brazil.

[Amber G.]

Day After Trump's Will "Run" Venezuela Remark, A U-Turn By His Top Aide