Armoured Vehicles: News & Discussion

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/shellsandsteel/status/183 ... 05101?s=20 ---> Indian Army T-72M1s upgraded with 'ESSA-72' and 'Sosna-U' gunner sights in 2003. Upgrade was carried out by Uralvagonzavod.

https://x.com/thugner101/status/2010291 ... 49608?s=20 ---> ESSA-72

[Prem Kumar]

The irony of Atmanirbhar Bharat ---> components of the "zealously-over-trialed-and-sabotaged" Arjun MBT is making its way into Russian-origin T-90s. Only in India will such miraculous events occur

This is by design. Similar to the concept of *digestion* by Rajiv Malhotra. An influential section of our Armed Forces want our MIC to be, at-best, component manufacturers and not system-developers because the latter is more value-added (read baksheesh) and we trust only foreign maal

If we do induct systems (like Prachand, ATAGS etc), it will be in-spite-of the AF Leadership, not because of them. It is due to pressure from the top (Parikkar, Modi etc) or some handful of believers inside the system who push through projects like Pinaka.

[bala]

Similar to the concept of *digestion* by Rajiv Malhotra.

This 'digestion' has happened for a long time. The Britshits stole a bunch of stuff from India include hero Newton with Vaisesika sutra laws - all of them, and of course calculus too. Math and science was India's forte for a long time and the entire decimal system was taken in toto by the west.

The armed forces are a legacy of Britshits and many of the customs/practices/ranks are from their systems, practiced even today by Indian forces. Indians became slaves to the Britshits and the rich ones were the brokers/dalals who made money running britshit systems of loot worldwide. The current moneybags of India have a history dating back to the drug trade of the Britshits. Their outlook is entirely different than the new breed of enterpreuners of India.

Indian army is probably the most behind amongst the rest (IAF, IN) in adopting desi maal. Though IAF for a long time was fond of videshi maal. Only the IN charted a course of desi maal since their budgets were lower than the others. Look at how IA gate crashed into the helo space by adopting desi maal from HAL and thumbing their nose at IAF. Maybe IAF can run armoured vehicles, they will adopt the Arjun.

India requires a Manohar parrikar type mantriji to set the culture of armed forces to true Atmanirbhar.