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If our mainstream media was as articulate Sirji these X narratives won’t work … but alas our movies and news are just nautanki … what a waste of resources
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ashthor wrote: 24 Jan 2026 10:48 ORCA will come after 114 is signed
Project 76 after 75i is signed
TEDBF after 26 is signed

ek haat de ke haat le
Bingo!
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S_Madhukar wrote: 24 Jan 2026 14:46 If our mainstream media was as articulate Sirji these X narratives won’t work … but alas our movies and news are just nautanki … what a waste of resources
Abuses are hurled at you on X, if you don't agree with their narrative.
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THE RAFALE TRAP: Is India’s ₹3.25L Cr Deal Killing the Tejas Mk2?

Is India’s ₹3.25 lakh crore deal for 114 Rafale jets a death sentence for the homegrown Tejas Mk2? Or is it the strategic "shield" our indigenous program needs to survive? As we move through 2026, the Indian Air Force faces a critical shortage of fighter squadrons. While the Tejas Mk2 is our homegrown hero, its first flight is scheduled for mid-2026—leaving a "numbers gap" that our neighbors could exploit today. In this deep-dive report, we analyze why the Dassault Rafale is the "omnirole beast" India needs for immediate survival. We break down the SPECTRA Electronic Warfare system, the "Bomb Truck" payload capacity, and the "Indianized" features like BrahMos-NG and Astra missile integration. Most importantly, we bust the myth of the "Money Talk". Discover how staggered payments ensure the IAF gets its Rafales while leaving $6-7 billion annually for the AMCA 5th-gen fighter and Tejas production. This isn't a choice between French or Indian; it's about building an unstoppable force for 2026.

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Rakesh wrote: 24 Jan 2026 20:59 THE RAFALE TRAP: Is India’s ₹3.25L Cr Deal Killing the Tejas Mk2?

Is India’s ₹3.25 lakh crore deal for 114 Rafale jets a death sentence for the homegrown Tejas Mk2? Or is it the strategic "shield" our indigenous program needs to survive? As we move through 2026, the Indian Air Force faces a critical shortage of fighter squadrons. While the Tejas Mk2 is our homegrown hero, its first flight is scheduled for mid-2026—leaving a "numbers gap" that our neighbors could exploit today. In this deep-dive report, we analyze why the Dassault Rafale is the "omnirole beast" India needs for immediate survival. We break down the SPECTRA Electronic Warfare system, the "Bomb Truck" payload capacity, and the "Indianized" features like BrahMos-NG and Astra missile integration. Most importantly, we bust the myth of the "Money Talk". Discover how staggered payments ensure the IAF gets its Rafales while leaving $6-7 billion annually for the AMCA 5th-gen fighter and Tejas production. This isn't a choice between French or Indian; it's about building an unstoppable force for 2026.
:D The way narratives are pushed are amazing to say the most. Hope that for all the purchases India is making, we get to sell them a good amount of indigenous weapons as well.
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uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 21:05 :D The way narratives are pushed are amazing to say the most. Hope that for all the purchases India is making, we get to sell them a good amount of indigenous weapons as well.
Media houses and defence analysts can read the writing on the wall i.e. the MRFA is becoming a reality. Barring some earth shattering revelation that will sink the contract, it is expected to reach fruition. This is more than 25 years in the making and thus they only they can stay relevant is by being trumping up the deal. You will see more of this as we get to DAC and then CCS approval.
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@ uddu, here is another "sensational" news item :) ---> viewtopic.php?p=2670085#p2670085
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Rakesh wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:02
uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 21:05 :D The way narratives are pushed are amazing to say the most. Hope that for all the purchases India is making, we get to sell them a good amount of indigenous weapons as well.
Media houses and defence analysts can read the writing on the wall i.e. the MRFA is becoming a reality. Barring some earth shattering revelation that will sink the contract, it is expected to reach fruition. This is more than 25 years in the making and thus they only they can stay relevant is by being trumping up the deal. You will see more of this as we get to DAC and then CCS approval.
It is inevitable other than Shriman Modi himself cutting the deal down to few 36 or so numbers for IAF. Increasing Tejas MK2 orders to 200. Offering U.S with a GE 200 engine deal with delivery priority for India and tech transfer. Finalizing Safran deal for AMCA engine. Ensuring Kaveri project is giving priority including test facility setup. Will remain a dream.
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uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:08
It is inevitable other than Shriman Modi himself cutting the deal down to few 36 or so numbers for IAF. Increasing Tejas MK2 orders to 200. Offering U.S with a GE 200 engine deal with delivery priority for India and tech transfer. Finalizing Safran deal for AMCA engine. Ensuring Kaveri project is giving priority including test facility setup. Will remain a dream.
GE (and the US political establishment) does not need India, as much as India needs GE. Thus 200 F414 engines is India's priority. It is not GE's priority. HAL Chief visited GE in the US recently. He requested GE to speed up deliveries. But that is all he can do i.e. request. There is no coercion cards that India has. Tech transfer with GE will not happen. The Jet Engine Technology Joint Working Group (JETJWG) between India and the US turned out to be a damp squib. In meetings, GE was only interested in knowing how far GTRE was progressing with the Kaveri and had zero intentions of transferring any viable technology. Relying on GE or any foreign OEM is not a viable solution. Even the Safran deal for AMCA remains to be seen if Safran will actually fulfill her contractual obligations. This is what happens when you do not have your own home grown solution. You remain at the mercy of a foreign OEM.

The license assembly of 99 GE F414 has yet to be signed and discussions are on going since 2022. It takes four years to decide on license assembly of non-critical components of the turbofan? One of Trump's key demands in the India-US trade deal is to purchase more American military hardware. The 114 MRFA contract is key to this. What do you think he is going to do when the deal does not go to a US company i.e. Boeing or Lockheed Martin? So we must import 114 F-35s or 114 F-15EXs, just to keep Trump happy and get continued support for the Tejas program? What about source code access for F-35 or F-15EX? What will the cost be for 114 F-35s or F-15EXs? Or is that criticism only reserved for 114 Rafales? What will we do if Unkil decides not to provide sustainment for the F-35 fleet that India acquires?

The same arguments that we put up for not acquiring the Rafale, applies to any of the other contestants in the MRFA contest. So what is this takleef with the Rafale is a mystery. Hypocrisy is what it is. The Indo-US bonhomie (post the 123 nuclear agreement) has come to an end. The stakeholders in India are waking up to the reality that after 2 decades of purchasing American military hardware, it has yet to get the US political establishment to end its desire of treating India like a pliant partner.

P.S. This 114 Rafale deal has full blessing of Shri Narendra Modi-ji himself :) He is the head of Govt.
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I am awaiting a firm commitment by the GOI to fund engines and keep funding aircraft development in India. The rest is about Videshi maal purchase which IMO is boring and all about keeping the IAF chaps happy and engaged. All the screwdrivergiri work in India with Rafael is inconsequential in moving the needle. Maybe some rigour and discipline and beyond that not much. All the imported machines, monitoring equipment etc are nice jeewhiz things but nothing much can be learnt about what they internally do. The MOD has to be keenly involved in furthering ATMA NIRBHARTA for armed forces and their equipment. Being #3 means you are on your own and no one will come to your rescue.
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Rakesh wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:17 GE (and the US political establishment) does not need India, as much as India needs GE. Thus 200 F414 engines is India's priority. It is not GE's priority. HAL Chief visited GE in the US recently. He requested GE to speed up deliveries. But that is all he can do i.e. request. There is no coercion cards that India has. Tech transfer with GE will not happen. The Jet Engine Technology Joint Working Group (JETJWG) between India and the US turned out to be a damp squib. In meetings, GE was only interested in knowing how far GTRE was progressing with the Kaveri and had zero intentions of transferring any viable technology. Relying on GE or any foreign OEM is not a viable solution. Even the Safran deal for AMCA remains to be seen if Safran will actually fulfill her contractual obligations. This is what happens when you do not have your own home grown solution. You remain at the mercy of a foreign OEM.

P.S. This deal has full blessing of Shri Narendra Modi-ji himself :)
India Nears Landmark GE F414 Engine Deal with US, Securing 80% Technology Transfer to Power Tejas Mk2 and AMCA Ambitions
https://theasialive.com/india-nears-lan ... 026/01/06/
Negotiations for the prospective contract—valued at around USD 1.5 billion—have now been concluded, laying the groundwork for an unprecedented 80 per cent Transfer of Technology (ToT). Once approved by both governments, a process anticipated to be completed within the first quarter of 2026, the agreement will mark a watershed moment in India’s quest for self-reliance in advanced military aerospace propulsion.

Remain at the Mercy of the OEM when urgency is not shown with indigenous engine program for a decade. So there are two paths to choose.
Cut down on Rafale and Order more Tejas MK2 or go with the Rafale and show ensure MK2 also gets 200+ numbers, even the follow on MK2A comes with DRDO-Safran engine.
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The real magic uddu lies in the remaining 20% :)

And let the deal get signed first. Then pop the champagne.

It is anyone guess how the Orange Diaper Baby is going to react, post the CCS approval of the 114 Rafale deal.
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Rakesh wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:40 The real magic uddu lies in the remaining 20% :)

And let the deal get signed first. Then pop the champagne.

It is anyone guess how the Orange Diaper Baby is going to react, post the CCS approval of the 114 Rafale deal.
Depends on Trump and his mood.
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uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:41 Depends on Trump and his mood.
So Indian airpower must rest on the mood of a US President? :)

Tejas will serve for at least four decades in the IAF. Around 300 - 400 Tejas in multiple variants are expected to be produced. For the next 4 decades, we want an Atmanirbhar Bharat product to be in the hands of multiple future US administrations? How is this acceptable?
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Rakesh wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:42 So Indian airpower must rest on the mood of a US President? :)

Tejas will serve for at least four decades in the IAF. Around 300 - 400 Tejas in multiple variants are expected to be produced. For the next 4 decades, we want an Atmanirbhar Bharat product to be in the hands of multiple future US administrations? How is this acceptable?
Are you saying that it's either GE 414 or Safran deal?
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Its our own leadership that brought us to this situation. At Both Political and Military level leadership. You are forced to accept deals be it 80 percent or 50 percent. Do you have other options? And above all the IAF chief is dreaming of joining some consortium for 6th Generation fighter. I don't know where our country will go with regard to IAF and IA. IN will be almost independent in a decade. So just sit and watch what's been signed.
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uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:47 Are you saying that it's either GE 414 or Safran deal?
What we need is an alternative to the F404 for Mk1A and F414 for the Mk2. Easier said than done, but Unkil is not reliable.

We can 100% rely on China to be our enemy. We have zero guarantee on America being India's friend or having a strategic partnership. America's reliability changes from one US administration to the next.

What we need to do is to complete Kaveri. But we do not want to do that. And thus the 114 MRFA exists. Bashing Rafale, Dassault, France are distractions to change the focus of criticism that you highlighted in your post below.
uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:50 Its our own leadership that brought us to this situation. At Both Political and Military level leadership. You are forced to accept deals be it 80 percent or 50 percent. Do you have other options? And above all the IAF chief is dreaming of joining some consortium for 6th Generation fighter. I don't know where our country will go with regard to IAF and IA. IN will be almost independent in a decade. So just sit and watch what's been signed.
I am sorry uddu, but IN will not be independent. Please see this ---> viewtopic.php?p=2670015#p2670015
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Rakesh wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:56...
That's what I am saying too. F404 should have alternative, and is very much possible with Kaveri. This should continue. F414, there are no alternatives as of now. No alternative of Kaveri engine that you could fit into MK2 in the next 4 to 5 years atleast. America cannot be relied, nor is French. The experience MDL experienced working with the French is well documented. How different will be with engines need to be seen. Does that mean, we must not try alternative with the French? We have no option and hence have to go with French engines. What I am suggesting is immediate solutions and not medium or long term ones. That should be indigenous engines. Starting from investing in testing infrastructure to anything that the team needs to ensure success with indigenous engines need to be done. Even if it means, cutting down on the number of Rafales and putting that money into engine test infra and new engine development.
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By the way, there is some news of Tejas Naval variant being considered by IN for training our pilots on landing and taking off from our Aircraft carriers. How true is that is not known.
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uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 23:04 That's what I am saying too. F404 should have alternative, and is very much possible with Kaveri. This should continue. F414, there are no alternatives as of now. No alternative of Kaveri engine that you could fit into MK2 in the next 4 to 5 years atleast. America cannot be relied, nor is French. The experience MDL experienced working with the French is well documented. How different will be with engines need to be seen. Does that mean, we must not try alternative with the French? We have no option and hence have to go with French engines. What I am suggesting is immediate solutions and not medium or long term ones. That should be indigenous engines. Starting from investing in testing infrastructure to anything that the team needs to ensure success with indigenous engines need to be done. Even if it means, cutting down on the number of Rafales and putting that money into engine test infra and new engine development.
If Trump throws a tantrum (and that is a big *IF) and cancels/pauses all future American military hardware to India, that will put the entire Tejas program in jeopardy. Sandeep Unnithan addressed that concern here ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR7XUKH_p_8

Go to 52:54 in the link above. As a side note, Sandeep Unnithan asked a question in the video above.

Q. from Sandeep --> Who in their mind thought that the US would go rogue like this?

A. BR Forum answered that question years earlier :) And it came back to the forefront during the SE fighter contest. But at that time the Indo-US bonhomie was on a drug induced, euphoric high. To even suggest on BRF that US would go rogue, would result you being labelled as BRF being close minded and not able to see the big picture.

Immediate solution is infrastructure investment for completing Kaveri. We are not doing that. So any discussion on that is academic.

Cutting down on Rafales is not going to happen. The Govt has invested in the idea of 114 MRFA. If not Rafale, then it will be another aircraft. But 114 MRFA is coming, whether we like it or not.
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uddu wrote: 24 Jan 2026 23:08 By the way, there is some news of Tejas Naval variant being considered by IN for training our pilots on landing and taking off from our Aircraft carriers. How true is that is not known.
See these posts (in the order listed below) on the issue you have raised in your post...

1. viewtopic.php?p=2653058#p2653058

2. viewtopic.php?p=2653250#p2653250
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GaN tech denied as part of Rafale deal and we developed it inhouse
https://x.com/i/status/2015146187297566878
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uddu wrote: 25 Jan 2026 10:12 GaN tech denied as part of Rafale deal and we developed it inhouse
https://x.com/i/status/2015146187297566878
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The article and YT interview expanding what was posted above.

Youtube Video - DRDO’s Suma Varughese on why compound semiconductors matter more than silicon in modern warfare

EXCLUSIVE: How DRDO cracked the code for GaN technology, boosting India's defence

Denied access to compound chip technology by foreign powers, Indian scientists did what they always do: Make in India
“In 2016, the order for 36 aircraft was signed as an inter-governmental agreement, mandating a 50 per cent offset clause,” said Mishra. Under the clause, French firms were required to reinvest 50 per cent of the contract value—about Rs30,000 crore—into India through technology transfer, business opportunities and R&D. “India proposed to receive GaN technology under the offset clause, but that was deemed a non-starter because of the strategic and state-of-the-art nature of the technology,” said Mishra. “The circuits were not denied but the technology was.”
India’s sustained investments in space-borne microwave and radar technologies through ISRO’s Space Applications Centre (SAC), Ahmedabad, have strengthened the domestic compound semiconductor ecosystem.
SSPL- and GAETEC-made chips support India’s SBS-3 space-based surveillance programme, which safeguards border and maritime interests. The X-band radar—missile defence and space surveillance—payload alone requires more than 9,000 MMICs, including more than 6,000 produced and screened at GAETEC. X-band components are subject to strict international trade controls.
The article is an interesting read on the development of GaN based chips.

The above Youtube video and article - courtesy of "The Week" magazine.
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I don't know why do we ever expect that someone would hand us core critical technologies like single crystal engine blade, variable cycle engine, GaN MMIC, scramjet tech, software defined radar & ECCM etc ...

Will we give it to someone else and if yes for what in return -- or just some extra $$$ ?
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Bingo! Well said Sumeet.

Tomorrow if we export Tejas Mk2 or AMCA to a friendly country, will India hand over the following (upon request);

1) Source Code access to integrate that friendly nation's weaponry.
2) Crown jewel access of the 120kN turbofan that powers the AMCA.

Because if we will not do the above, how do we expect another country to export that tech to us?

The sense of entitlement that we live under is astounding. And then we blame that foreign country's OEM when they do not hand it over to us. When in fact, the blame should squarely land on the shoulders of our own stakeholders that never nurtured those industries within the country.

When no one just handed over a SSBN to us, we had to develop it all on our own. From the nuclear reactor to the hull design to the SLBMs to the sonars to the torpedoes, it is all Indian. And when we did it, it was a matter of national pride. And we are doing the same with the SSN (Project 77). We just did the same with the posts that uddu and Kanoji made. No one will hand you their crown jewels. What is the net positive that exists for them?

Today, India has to spend $35+ billion on foreign fighters because our home grown fighter is not coming on time. The latest news is the HAL will miss even the March 2026 deadline to deliver the first batch of Tejas Mk1As to the IAF. While we cannot blame HAL for GE engine delays, what is the latest excuse that HAL has to give for not delivering Tejas Mk1A in March of this year?

Can we tell the Chinese to hold on and let us build our squadron strength first? Because if you attack us prior to that, then it is not fair. So give us till at least 2040, before you attack.
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Indian Air Force began a fighter jet hunt 2 decades ago. It's finally nearing an end
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/i ... 2026-01-25
25 Jan 2026
India is reportedly in the last stages of clearing and signing an agreement with France to purchase 114 additional Rafale fighter jets for the Air Force. The deal, if it goes through, would mark the conclusion of a fighter jet hunt that the Indian Air Force began nearly two decades ago.
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Rakesh wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:42 So Indian airpower must rest on the mood of a US President? :)

Tejas will serve for at least four decades in the IAF. Around 300 - 400 Tejas in multiple variants are expected to be produced. For the next 4 decades, we want an Atmanirbhar Bharat product to be in the hands of multiple future US administrations? How is this acceptable?
I read all the posts following this one, a truly depressing state of affairs.

How did we paint ourselves into a corner? Is there a solution at this late date? I am thinking accelerated PPP might be a way out.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 25 Jan 2026 23:36 I read all the posts following this one, a truly depressing state of affairs.

How did we paint ourselves into a corner? Is there a solution at this late date? I am thinking accelerated PPP might be a way out.
Malaise and easy access to imports is the reason for painting ourselves into a corner.

There is a solution to every problem. We don't want to adopt the solution, because it involves investing money that does not produce a result that "appears" desirable. Ask yourself ---> Which looks good on paper for the Govt/IAF ---> homegrown turbofan or 114 foreign, off-the-shelf fighters?
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I would definitely go for homegrown, but that is me. :(
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Vayutuvan wrote: 25 Jan 2026 23:46 I would definitely go for homegrown, but that is me. :(
https://x.com/samirsaran/status/2015338 ... 41409?s=20 ---> Can India beat China? Time to spend 4-5% of GDP on defence and link it to investing in research and emerging tech platforms.

Tweet below is in response to the tweet above ^^^^

https://x.com/sriramthg/status/2015482500517433835?s=20 ---> The best time for that was in 2014. But we shut down our engine program.

The second best time is now.

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But we will import 114 Rafale and then blame Dassault for not giving us source code access. Clown Behaviour.
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https://x.com/IamRajat_Pandit/status/20 ... 78789?s=20 ---> India’s systemic inability to formulate & execute long-term plans to build military capabilities to tackle collusive #ChinaPakistan threat evident again with Govt planning acquisition of 114 #Rafale jets after scrapping similar project a decade ago! My op-ed piece @DeccanHerald.

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India to Buy 114 Rafales: Why 4.5-Gen Fighters Still Matter

In this episode of OPEN COLLAR, Major Gaurav Arya (Retd) discusses India’s ₹3.25 lakh crore plan to acquire 114 Rafale fighter jets, with Air Marshal Sanjeev Kapoor (Retd). The conversation explores why India is choosing 4.5 generation Rafales over 5th generation stealth fighters, the impact of delayed procurement, and the growing concern over IAF squadron shortages as aircraft like the Jaguar near retirement. The episode also examines reports of up to 80% indigenous manufacturing, the significance of engine technology transfer with Safran and GE (F414), and how these deals could transform India’s aviation and aerospace ecosystem. Key questions are addressed around HAL’s performance, possible reforms, and whether 114 Rafales are sufficient for India’s future airpower needs—or if a larger order is required to achieve full technology transfer. A concise yet hard-hitting discussion on India’s airpower, defence strategy, and self-reliance.

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BS‑022 Alive and Flying: Pakistan’s ‘We Shot Rafale’ Story Exposed in R-Day Parade
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/bs02 ... -153509335
26 Jan 2026
The Pakistan Air Force's assertion of downing the Indian Air Force's Rafale jet BS-022 during May 2025's Operation Sindoor was proven false when the aircraft appeared in the Indian Republic Day Parade.
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Rakesh and others,

Do you guys know how will Indian EU FTA impact 114 Rafale deal especially local manufacturing aspects ? Also, will this reduce price of importing machinery and parts from Europe for broader manufacturing capabilities beyond just Rafale ?
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Rakesh wrote: 27 Jan 2026 07:00 BS‑022 Alive and Flying: Pakistan’s ‘We Shot Rafale’ Story Exposed in R-Day Parade
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/bs02 ... -153509335
26 Jan 2026
The Pakistan Air Force's assertion of downing the Indian Air Force's Rafale jet BS-022 during May 2025's Operation Sindoor was proven false when the aircraft appeared in the Indian Republic Day Parade.
They will say, you Hindus have punarjanm, reincarnation, so do your planes.
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A_Gupta wrote: 27 Jan 2026 18:00
Rakesh wrote: 27 Jan 2026 07:00 BS‑022 Alive and Flying: Pakistan’s ‘We Shot Rafale’ Story Exposed in R-Day Parade
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/bs02 ... -153509335
26 Jan 2026

They will say, you Hindus have punarjanm, reincarnation, so do your planes.
They will simply say we painted the number again for the show
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Sumeet wrote: 27 Jan 2026 15:18 Rakesh and others,

Do you guys know how will Indian EU FTA impact 114 Rafale deal especially local manufacturing aspects ?

Also, will this reduce price of importing machinery and parts from Europe for broader manufacturing capabilities beyond just Rafale ?
From Google Chacha. How much of what Google Chacha states below - will actually pan out - remains to be seen. A clearer picture will emerge, if & when a deal is signed between the two nations for the 114 MRFA. The points in the second section below (starting with Beyond the Rafale...) could potentially spill over into the Rafale. But will have to wait and see.

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The newly finalized India-EU Free Trade Agreement (FTA), announced on January 27, 2026, is set to act as a significant catalyst for the 114-aircraft Rafale Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) deal. By slashing import costs and formalizing industrial partnerships, the pact moves the needle from a simple "buyer-seller" relationship to a deeper co-production model.

Impact on the 114 Rafale (MRFA) Deal

The FTA aligns directly with the "Make in India" goals for the estimated ₹3.25 lakh crore ($36 billion) Rafale deal:

* Local Manufacturing Core: Approximately 96 out of 114 jets are planned for local manufacture, primarily through the Dassault-Reliance (DRAL) facility in Nagpur and Tata Advanced Systems in Hyderabad.
* Progressive Indigenization: Local content is expected to start at 30% and ramp up to 60% by value as production matures.
* Engine & Radar Tech: While France remains protective of core source codes, the FTA facilitates broader technology transfers for subsystems. This includes potential joint ventures between HAL and Safran for engine production and Thales and SFO Technologies for radar components.
* Export Hub Ambitions: The FTA encourages the use of Indian facilities to fulfill global export orders for Rafale, potentially making India a regional maintenance, repair, and overhaul (MRO) hub.

Beyond the Rafale, the FTA dramatically lowers the cost of entry for European technology across all industrial sectors:

* Drastic Duty Cuts: India will eliminate or reduce duties on 96.6% of EU goods.
* Machinery: Tariffs previously as high as 44% will be mostly eliminated over 5–10 years.
* Aircraft & Spacecraft: Existing duties of up to 11% will be reduced to zero.
* Automotive: Import duties on cars will drop from 110% to as low as 10% over time, and tariffs on car parts will be fully abolished.
* Lower Input Costs: Cheaper European chemicals, plastics, and precision tools will lower production costs for Indian manufacturers in aerospace, electronics, and medical devices.
* Access to EU Funding: The pact may allow Indian firms to access the EU’s security and SAFE funds, incentivizing them to establish production facilities within Europe and accelerating the reverse flow of technology.

Check out the official European Commission summary for a sector-by-sector breakdown of tariff removals.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco ... /ip_26_184
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uddu wrote: 25 Jan 2026 10:12 GaN tech denied as part of Rafale deal and we developed it inhouse
https://x.com/i/status/2015146187297566878
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▶️Tech Denied, no problem.
▶️We will develop it inhouse. We are DRDO☠️
https://x.com/Notjustheadline/status/20 ... 04217?s=20 ---> How India Cracked GaN Technology and Rewrote the Rafale Offset Story.

When India finalized the Rafale deal with France years ago, it demanded Gallium Nitride (GaN) technology transfer under the offset clause. France refused, agreeing to supply equipment, but not the core technology, citing strategic sensitivity and export controls. That denial became India’s trigger point. The DRDO decided to build GaN technology indigenously. Two key DRDO labs, Solid State Physics Laboratory (Delhi) and Gallium Arsenide Enabling Technology Centre (Hyderabad), led the effort. By March 2023, India had successfully developed GaN technology. By January 25, 2026, it became fully deployment-ready, with India unveiling its first indigenous GaN-based Monolithic Microwave Integrated Circuit (MMIC), a critical semiconductor for next-generation defence systems.

Why GaN Matters

🔹GaN is a compound semiconductor, far superior to silicon
🔹300× faster power switching
🔹Operates under extreme heat (up to ~1000°C)
🔹Smaller size, higher efficiency, greater reliability

These properties make GaN essential for AESA radars, missile seekers, electronic warfare systems, UAVs, and satellites.

👉 India joins an elite GaN club with the US, France, Russia, Germany, South Korea, and China
👉 Indigenous GaN chips will power advanced radars, satellites, missiles, and fighter upgrades like Tejas Mark 2 and Sukhoi Su-30MKI
👉 Ends dependence on imported critical semiconductors
👉 Full IP ownership ensures operational sovereignty in wartime

The global GaN market is set to cross $21 billion by 2031. With DRDO transferring this tech to Indian industry at low cost, India is poised to build a domestic GaN semiconductor ecosystem, boosting Make in India and Atmanirbhar Bharat. What France refused to transfer under the Rafale deal, India has now built on its own.
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Rakesh wrote: 27 Jan 2026 19:31
Sumeet wrote: 27 Jan 2026 15:18 Rakesh and others,

Do you guys know how will Indian EU FTA impact 114 Rafale deal especially local manufacturing aspects ?

Also, will this reduce price of importing machinery and parts from Europe for broader manufacturing capabilities beyond just Rafale ?
From Google Chacha. How much of what Google Chacha states below - will actually pan out - remains to be seen. A clearer picture will emerge, if & when a deal is signed between the two nations for the 114 MRFA. The points in the second section below (starting with Beyond the Rafale...) could potentially spill over into the Rafale. But will have to wait and see.
The tweet below is from Kaja Kallas, the EU's High Representative for Foreign Affairs & Security Policy and the Vice President of the EU. Could "potentially" weave into the P-75I contract (Type 212CD from HDW), the 114 MRFA contract (Rafale) and the MTA contract (A-400M).

https://x.com/kajakallas/status/2016065 ... 90176?s=20 ---> When two major democracies act together, we build stronger shared security. It was a great pleasure to sign a new EU–India Security and Defence Partnership with @DrSJaishankar today. The pact launches an annual security and defence dialogue – with the first meeting taking place in a month – and deepens cooperation on maritime security, cyber issues, and counter-terrorism. We will also explore Indian participation in European defence initiatives. As the global order shifts, the EU will continue to deepen its diplomatic and economic ties across the world. Strong partnerships multiply our strength.

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Rakesh wrote: 21 Jan 2026 22:02Please understand this post, you do not have to agree with it...but you must understand the dice that India has rolled on the geopolitical board game ---> viewtopic.php?p=2668846#p2668846
Rakesh wrote: 21 Jan 2026 22:02What was the latter half of Narendra Modi's Make in India vision that he first announced in May 2020? Make in India, But for the World! That was the slogan of Atmanirbhar Bharat. So welcome to *THAT* world, almost six years later!
The below is what happens when the so-called Leader of the Free World runs amock and stomps on the rules-based international order. A system that the US itself gave birth to and nurtured, post the end of the Second World War. But it is largely working out great for the rest of the world and was bound to happen anyway. A lesson for future nations that aspire to become global powers.

VIDEO: https://x.com/TrulyMonica/status/201610 ... 48377?s=20 ---> Superpowers want to rewrite rules of multilateral order but coming from a small country (Estonia), I see hope in India: Kaja Kallas, Vice President of European Commission. From Canada to EU, everyone is seeing India as a saviour of multipolarity.

https://x.com/ANI/status/2016097221541036214?s=20 ----> Vice-President of the European Commission, Kaja Kallas says, "... When I go around the world, I see more and more countries want to build partnerships with Europe because we are predictable, which is nowadays becoming a value. We take a long time to negotiate deals, but when we do, we stick to them. We implement them, and that has become something that is of value... When we get there finally, we really keep our promises, and we keep our agreements. I think this is extremely important... We can do a lot together in different fields, and we have mapped different fields when it comes to security, defence, foreign policy, maritime security, and cyber security. We are entering into negotiations about that because to make decisions, you have to be aware of the facts and intelligence that is there..."
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