Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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> the british said that gandhi was worth two brigades in India. why would they even think that

This was in the context of stopping the partition rioting.

FYI, Subhas Bose named one of the INA brigades the Gandhi Bigade.

Also, I refuse to believe that people from Tagore, Sardar Patel, KM Munshi, etc., were all taken in by a Britshit creation and modern historians have revealed all of them to be idiots.
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bala wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:22
chetak wrote: 26 Jan 2026 11:34 the man was a wily politician and a shadowy fixer with focus on non majority issues
Chetak ji, this rejoinder is the best write up I have seen about the person who screwed up many things for India including Banditji's selection as PM, over-riding Patel ji's genuine elected post of PM. Indians will realize the enormous damage done to India by the initial leaders of Kangress over time.
Noob Q but do we know why Dandi and Bandit were so revered that Khangress let them get away. I mean a Sardar Patel should have revolted … specially looking at how Bose went… Patel looked like Bhishma Pitamaha then … points to a massive cultural and psychological failure … yes times were different and violence was on so may be they wanted to just get on with it but we must use this as a prime example of wrong decisions
And incompetence in government. I can imagine a Vajpayee like person doing the same… who knows Bandit might have privately threatened something
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S_Madhukar wrote: 08 Feb 2026 14:47
bala wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:22

Chetak ji, this rejoinder is the best write up I have seen about the person who screwed up many things for India including Banditji's selection as PM, over-riding Patel ji's genuine elected post of PM. Indians will realize the enormous damage done to India by the initial leaders of Kangress over time.
Noob Q but do we know why Dandi and Bandit were so revered that Khangress let them get away. I mean a Sardar Patel should have revolted … specially looking at how Bose went… Patel looked like Bhishma Pitamaha then … points to a massive cultural and psychological failure … yes times were different and violence was on so may be they wanted to just get on with it but we must use this as a prime example of wrong decisions
And incompetence in government. I can imagine a Vajpayee like person doing the same… who knows Bandit might have privately threatened something

S_Madhukar ji,

there is a far more logical explanation

the britshits wanted neverwho and they would not have been able to manage the Sardar

the less said about the stretcher-bearer and his political shenanigans the better.


The manchurian candidate system worked well until 2014
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A_Gupta wrote: 08 Feb 2026 10:03 > ....

Also, I refuse to believe that people from Tagore, Sardar Patel, KM Munshi, etc., were all taken in by a Britshit creation and modern historians have revealed all of them to be idiots.
Sardar Patel and KM Munshi were not 'taken in'. The actions of the Sardar are quite clear and well known.

About K M Munshi
During his tenure of home minister, he suppressed the communal riots in Bombay.

As the demand for Pakistan gathered momentum, he gave up non-violence and supported the idea of a civil war to compel the Muslims to give up their demand. He believed that the future of Hindus and Muslims lay in unity in an "Akhand Hindustan".[11] He left Congress in 1941 due to dissents with Congress, but was invited back in 1946 by Mahatma Gandhi.[9][7]

After the independence of India, Munshi, Sardar Patel and N. V. Gadgil visited the Junagadh State to stabilise the state with help of the Indian Army. In Junagadh, Patel declared the reconstruction of the historically important Somnath temple. Patel died before the reconstruction was completed. Munshi became the main driving force behind the renovation of the Somnath temple even after Jawaharlal Nehru's opposition.

In 1959, Munshi separated from the Nehru-dominated (socialist) Congress Party and started the Akhand Hindustan movement. He believed in a strong opposition, so along with Chakravarti Rajagopalachari, he founded the Swatantra Party, which was right-wing in its politics, pro-business, pro-free market economy and private property rights.
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As I have written before, criticism of Gandhi is fine; inventing your own “historical facts” to do so is not. This deluge of lies and misinformation does no one any good.

I saw this on another thread, the slogan at the bottom is absolutely correct.

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A_Gupta wrote: 08 Feb 2026 10:03 FYI, Subhas Bose named one of the INA brigades the Gandhi Bigade.
The brigade was named after Gandhi in September 1942. It was done by Mohan Singh and the other top brass of the then INA, not by Subhash Bose. Subhash Bose was not even in Burma at the time of the naming of the brigade. Subhash Bose simply allowed the brigade to continue with the same name.
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A_Gupta wrote: 09 Feb 2026 09:25 As I have written before, criticism of Gandhi is fine; inventing your own “historical facts” to do so is not. This deluge of lies and misinformation does no one any good.


A_Gupta ji,

The reality of ghundhy's (and neverwho) roles are now increasingly getting exposed. the imaginary history that is still being pushed as the factual by the commies, congis and the woke BIF is showing it's frayed construct and the devious intent that motivated its venomous origins and cancerous spread.

Not for nothing are such éminences grises hated in africa and their statues are being pulled down.

Unlike in India, there was never any narrative run in africa by the BIF to deify ghundhy, so the africans have the true facts in all their naked glory.

Does anyone wonder as to why such "historical facts" in africa differ so much from the same "historical facts" in India :mrgreen:

how and why did India have so many muslim "education" ministers post independence or was that a mere coincidence to some peoples way of thinking and interpreting. Again, there are not just “historical facts” but criminal acts in a newly independent India trying to find her feet and establish stability

BTW, what exactly did a partitioned India owe these pigs whose jihadi culture was responsible for the vivisection of the motherland. So the real question is who were the shadowy figures behind neverwho's throne and why were they there. They were there because they never really left India. They had merely changed hats and continued as before with a new brown मुखौटा in place of the original white and that continued till 2014 barring the tenures of PVNR and ABA

on what basis was the result of the election that overwhelmingly preferred the Sardar overturned, and ghundhy slyly installed neverwho as the potential pm frontrunner. he was allegedly neither a member of the congi party, and nor was he a "politician" so on what basis did he "overturn" the election

Was this democracy or was it on orders from his non majority constituency that undoubtedly included the britshits

this was not an innocent act and neither was it in the interests of the Indian civilization nor the future prospects of the emerging sovereign state of India.

Post independence, the Hindu was tightly constrained and the abrahamics were mollycoddled by the state and that continues to date and the cost of such largesse is borne by the majority, and that partisan attitude of the state also reaffirmed their false sense of entitlement, while increasing their strong feelings of victimhood which was reinforced by their strong cultural belief in the so called historically inherited and religiously inherent right of the conqueror to rule over the conquered, thus they believed that their inborn and ingrained rights to rule over the "inferior" Hindus was being violated and was in direct contradiction to their long held assumption that they came from a superior race and culture. All this was not very conducive to the peaceful formation and social progress of a newly independent sovereign state

one should take a fresh look at these so called “historical facts” that some people lay such great store by They are pure unadulterated fiction.

The massive backlash that the introduction of the "new ugc rules" has unleashed has not even caused a blip on the forum and yet posters wax eloquent on what is happening in some hick town in texas or whatever

ghundhy and neverwho have nil relevance in today's India. We are well past that stage where we need them (if indeed, we ever did need them in the first place). Indian independence was won by people who fought for it in the only way that the britshits understood, not by fakirs who bleated non violence but stayed very very quiet when the jihadis were involved in the perpetration of the violence against the Hindus, and these are a few of the uncomfortable "historical facts". Many historians actually say that ghundhy's antics delayed India's independence by as much as 10 years

Nishikant Dubey has raked up the entire neverwho खानदानी history and geography in parliament. Matters suppressed for decades have been revealed and their shenanigans have been exposed, including arrests in the US by the FBI for carrying cash close to $200K

The Henderson brooks report on the 1962 war will probably be made public because as Dubey said why was it suppressed at all and probably several banned books concerning the mafia खानदानी acts of omission and commission may well be unbanned as well. The blowback will be very damaging to the mafia in particular and the party in general

The congis and the mafia will rue the day that papooze opened this door on the floor of the parliament and the repercussion from the backblast will singe the mafia and erode their carefully constructed façade of being the singular entity that was instrumental in India getting her freedom
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Shanmukh wrote: 09 Feb 2026 11:06
A_Gupta wrote: 08 Feb 2026 10:03 FYI, Subhas Bose named one of the INA brigades the Gandhi Bigade.
The brigade was named after Gandhi in September 1942. It was done by Mohan Singh and the other top brass of the then INA, not by Subhash Bose. Subhash Bose was not even in Burma at the time of the naming of the brigade. Subhash Bose simply allowed the brigade to continue with the same name.

Shanmukh saar,

Given the INA's ideology, one is very sure that the name "Gandhi Brigade" was sarcastically bestowed.

This would also have had the added benefit of infuriating the britshits, apart from pissing off the congis and the great man himself. It's no wonder that Subhash Bose allowed the name to continue........ :mrgreen:

In college, when a group of friends went out together, one remembers a "gandhi account" that was not only self explanatory but was also very apt
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Of course, sarcasm was a mighty force. “ On 6 July 1944, in a speech broadcast by the Azad Hind Radio from Singapore, Bose addressed Mahatma Gandhi as the “Father of the Nation” and asked for his blessings and good wishes for the war he was fighting.”

Netaji’s sarcasm was a huge inspiration to the Indian National Army, which had the motto “one sarcastic statement of Netaji is worth one lakh bullets”.

What is amazing to me is that seemingly no one here can understand that people can have political differences and yet respect each other. I guess this is the result of the slow poisoning of politics post-Independence.
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A_Gupta wrote: 10 Feb 2026 02:31 Of course, sarcasm was a mighty force. “ On 6 July 1944, in a speech broadcast by the Azad Hind Radio from Singapore, Bose addressed Mahatma Gandhi as the “Father of the Nation” and asked for his blessings and good wishes for the war he was fighting.”

Netaji’s sarcasm was a huge inspiration to the Indian National Army, which had the motto “one sarcastic statement of Netaji is worth one lakh bullets”.

What is amazing to me is that seemingly no one here can understand that people can have political differences and yet respect each other. I guess this is the result of the slow poisoning of politics post-Independence.
Gupta-garu,
There was a genuine dislike between Gandhi and Bose. This is clear from the way they both sabotaged each other at every opportunity, sniped at each other, and genuinely believed that the other was leading the Congress in the wrong direction. But they both realised that they needed the other. Bose could win the election for the Congress presidency, but could not run the Congress without Gandhi's approval. Gandhi could sabotage Bose, but was unable to take many state Congresses with him, if Bose were driven out. And in the end, he bit the bullet and had Bose expelled, killing the Bengal Congress and badly weakening the Madras and Punjab Congress, since these were the areas where Bose had significant support.

They would publicly say some nice things about each other. Gandhi would publicly laud Bose's patriotism, and Bose would claim that he was the foremost of Gandhi's supporters, but this was mainly messaging to get each other's supporters to at least tone down their criticism.

As for the claim that Gandhi nominated Nehru over Patel, that decision goes back to 1942 and the Quit India Movement. Gandhi and Patel backed the Quit India movement half-heartedly, and this killed their chances of deciding things, since it blotted out their copy book with the British. It was not so much that Gandhi pushed Nehru to the top, as the British pushing Nehru [who was their favoured candidate]. By the end of the war, the British were in the driver's seat, and they decided who would become the next prime minister, and also, the division of the country. Gandhi and Patel had lost too much power during the Quit India movement, weakening them inside the Congress. There is a deep problem with the simplistic analyses about 'Patel vs Nehru' or 'Gandhi vs Patel', etc. It is a structural weakness of the Congress that they had nothing to counter the British with in terms of street power [they had themselves weakened and defanged those who could have fought it out on the streets against the British+Muslim League]. Anyway, this 'Indo-UK thread' is not the place to even debate all these points which are extremely involved and would require us to go over the primary documents of the last days of the Raj and many things here are subject to interpretation. So, I will stop here.
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I will just say I have a large collection of primary documents. This project was part way, and grew from there.
https://sites.google.com/view/cabinetmi ... -plan-1946

What I do not have is is JLN’s works.
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A_Gupta wrote: 10 Feb 2026 18:38 I will just say I have a large collection of primary documents. This project was part way, and grew from there.
https://sites.google.com/view/cabinetmi ... -plan-1946

What I do not have is is JLN’s works.
We looked at the topic using primary writings of Gandhi, Bose and Nehru from 1930s and 1940s, and how things evolved in a series of articles here. https://sringeribelur.com/

You can see our series on Gandhi and Bose.

The problem is, as I said, the fact that Gandhi and Patel, by supporting the Quit India movement, had made themselves the enemies of the British, and the British were in power after the war; so, they decided who the prime minister would be. So, there wasn't much that Gandhi and/or Patel could do to make Patel the PM.
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 172697.cms

UK-India FTA gets compared to ‘bag of soggy poppadums’ in House of Commons debate


Soggy Poppadums Vs Fine Tandoori: UK Parliament Spars Over India Trade Deal As MPs Trade Charges

But the deal came under fire from all sides of the House for failing to include UK services, especially legal services, for allowing Indian workers and their employers to evade paying National Insurance for three years, which was “undercutting British workers”; for taking five to 10 years before British goods exporters see tariff reductions, whilst Indian goods exporters will see them immediately; for failing to agree a bilateral investment treaty; and also for failing to have enforceable clauses on human rights and labour standards.There were concerns the UK would get flooded with cheap Indian imports. MP Iqbal Mohamed said the UK govt should “pursue an economic diplomacy that recognises the importance of religious tolerance”.Concerns were raised over complex state-level regulations in India, and Griffith even raised the plight of “poor blinded prawns” who, he said, would become “victims under this deal”.The double contributions convention (DCC) received the most criticism. Griffith said: “It could be up to £10,000 a year cheaper to hire a software developer on an average British salary from India than to hire someone from Britain for the same role.” Griffith said the Indian govt “boasted about” this at the time the deal was signed whereas it was not even mentioned by the UK govt.DCC agreements are usually struck by the UK with countries that “have compatible economies, similar educational outcomes and comparable social security systems, such as Japan and Canada. India stands alone as by far the largest and least wealthy country on the list”, Conservative MP Katie Lam said. “We have already seen this model take hold in the US. The result has been a massive expansion in the number of lower-cost Indian workers at the expense of American workers.”However Bryant said Indian workers and their employers would face other charges, such as an NHS surcharge and immigration skills charge.
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A_Gupta wrote: 10 Feb 2026 18:38 I will just say I have a large collection of primary documents. This project was part way, and grew from there.
https://sites.google.com/view/cabinetmi ... -plan-1946

What I do not have is is JLN’s works.
This is solid work. I would have to agree with much of what you've written. The "Gandhi bad-bad man" is a popular theme amongst the right wing crowd and the old man has earned a reputation as a Hindu hater, Pakistan lover, partition maker etc., but honestly I just don't think there was any viable alternative. Notwithstanding the tour de force that Bose was.

The INA strategy was doomed IMHO. If the Brits won WW2, it would go ill for them, as it did. And if the Japanese had won it wouldn't have been much better.
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^^^ Thank you! My sister did the heavy lifting; I was a "consultant" and "advisor".

The "Nehru bad-bad man" is also a popular theme these days; and of course, having more power and more responsibility, his mistakes were more consequential. But rather than even a casual historical examination, people want to fling out sound-bites.
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A_Gupta wrote: 16 Feb 2026 12:47 ^^^ Thank you! My sister did the heavy lifting; I was a "consultant" and "advisor".

The "Nehru bad-bad man" is also a popular theme these days; and of course, having more power and more responsibility, his mistakes were more consequential. But rather than even a casual historical examination, people want to fling out sound-bites.
Indians are a self flagellating lot haha. But the exigencies of post independence India were extremely complex and Indian leaders on the whole did pretty damn well to navigate through the last last century. Compare that to China or any of the post colonial Independent countries. Effin dark age. Ghor kaliyuga ...
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Shanmukh wrote: 10 Feb 2026 11:00
A_Gupta wrote: 10 Feb 2026 02:31 Of course, sarcasm was a mighty force. “ On 6 July 1944, in a speech broadcast by the Azad Hind Radio from Singapore, Bose addressed Mahatma Gandhi as the “Father of the Nation” and asked for his blessings and good wishes for the war he was fighting.”

Netaji’s sarcasm was a huge inspiration to the Indian National Army, which had the motto “one sarcastic statement of Netaji is worth one lakh bullets”.

What is amazing to me is that seemingly no one here can understand that people can have political differences and yet respect each other. I guess this is the result of the slow poisoning of politics post-Independence.
Gupta-garu,
There was a genuine dislike between Gandhi and Bose. This is clear from the way they both sabotaged each other at every opportunity, sniped at each other, and genuinely believed that the other was leading the Congress in the wrong direction. But they both realised that they needed the other. Bose could win the election for the Congress presidency, but could not run the Congress without Gandhi's approval. Gandhi could sabotage Bose, but was unable to take many state Congresses with him, if Bose were driven out. And in the end, he bit the bullet and had Bose expelled, killing the Bengal Congress and badly weakening the Madras and Punjab Congress, since these were the areas where Bose had significant support.

They would publicly say some nice things about each other. Gandhi would publicly laud Bose's patriotism, and Bose would claim that he was the foremost of Gandhi's supporters, but this was mainly messaging to get each other's supporters to at least tone down their criticism.

As for the claim that Gandhi nominated Nehru over Patel, that decision goes back to 1942 and the Quit India Movement. Gandhi and Patel backed the Quit India movement half-heartedly, and this killed their chances of deciding things, since it blotted out their copy book with the British. It was not so much that Gandhi pushed Nehru to the top, as the British pushing Nehru [who was their favoured candidate]. By the end of the war, the British were in the driver's seat, and they decided who would become the next prime minister, and also, the division of the country. Gandhi and Patel had lost too much power during the Quit India movement, weakening them inside the Congress. There is a deep problem with the simplistic analyses about 'Patel vs Nehru' or 'Gandhi vs Patel', etc. It is a structural weakness of the Congress that they had nothing to counter the British with in terms of street power [they had themselves weakened and defanged those who could have fought it out on the streets against the British+Muslim League]. Anyway, this 'Indo-UK thread' is not the place to even debate all these points which are extremely involved and would require us to go over the primary documents of the last days of the Raj and many things here are subject to interpretation. So, I will stop here.
I remember reading about Netaji that after quitting the ICS program, he came to India to join politics. He then visited Gandhiji's ashram, where Gandhiji personally informed him about all the programs that Gandhiji had started, Sarvodaya, village development, Khadi, etc. Subhashbabu later on remarked that all were very good programs. But he still could not understand how these programs would force the British out of India.
Subhashbabu may have disliked Gandhiji, but I have never read anywhere that he had made any comment against Gandhiji. In public he always said that Gandhi was the number one public leader in India. I do not think there was any sarcasm in Netaji's assertion of asking for Gandhiji's help. There were millions of Indian National Congress members who would have joined the INA, if he was able to start a war in India. He was not going to burn any bridges there. A lot of articles on Netaji are available in Bengali, that you can not get. I could have given some, but they may be out of topic here.
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https://www.npr.org/2026/02/19/nx-s1-57 ... ce-reports
Former Prince Andrew arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office: reports
February 19, 2026
Lauren Frayer

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g.sarkar wrote: 19 Feb 2026 18:06 https://www.npr.org/2026/02/19/nx-s1-57 ... ce-reports
Former Prince Andrew arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office: reports
February 19, 2026
Lauren Frayer

......
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On his 66th birthday even, must be on purpose.
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Tanaji Sir,
Epstein maybe dead, but he is not going quietly.
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/bill ... 260219.htm
Bill Gates skips AI Impact Summit keynote amid Epstein files row
Utkarsh Mishra, February 19, 2026

Bill Gates will not deliver his keynote at the India AI Impact Summit 2026, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation announced.
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He should be jailed suo moto for crimes against humanity and tried in an Indian court. That would be fun
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g.sarkar wrote: 19 Feb 2026 22:46 Tanaji Sir,
Epstein maybe dead, but he is not going quietly.
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/bill ... 260219.htm

.....
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Gautamji, the sheer brazenness with which the elites have gotten away with this is nauseating. It also puts to bed yet another ditty the West used to lecture us with: “Rule of law” along with many many others….

In a way OM’s coming has been good: it has truly exposed how hypocritical the West is to those looked upon it as this ideal…
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Tanaji wrote: 20 Feb 2026 03:03 Gautamji, the sheer brazenness with which the elites have gotten away with this is nauseating. It also puts to bed yet another ditty the West used to lecture us with: “Rule of law” along with many many others….

In a way OM’s coming has been good: it has truly exposed how hypocritical the West is to those looked upon it as this ideal…
Wishful thinking saar. For most of the non-western world and particularly the left wing crowd, west will continue to be the beacon of truth, justice and rule of law & BBC, guardian, CNN etc will continue to be 'unbiased' & 'just' sources of truth. White people can literally do no wrong (even when they do).

If obama can get the nobel for peace after bombing weddings, then it would be foolish to think one (or a few) epsteins would put an end to the lectures or the hypocrisy.
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Obama got his Nobel before he bombed anything, just 9 months into his first term. They won’t say it, but he got the prize for breaking the color bar on the US Presidency. Agreed that he did not merit it on any other count.

BBC:
Nobel secretary regrets Obama peace prize
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960
Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to US President Barack Obama in 2009 failed to achieve what the committee hoped it would, its ex-secretary has said.

Geir Lundestad told the AP news agency that the committee hoped the award would strengthen Mr Obama.

Instead, the decision was met with criticism in the US. Many argued he had not had any impact worthy of the award.

Mr Lundestad, writing in his memoir, Secretary of Peace, said even Mr Obama himself had been surprised.
"No Nobel Peace Prize ever elicited more attention than the 2009 prize to Barack Obama," Mr Lundestad writes.

"Even many of Obama's supporters believed that the prize was a mistake," he says. "In that sense the committee didn't achieve what it had hoped for".
He also reveals that Mr Obama considered not going to pick up the award in Norway's capital, Oslo.
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We can believe awarding the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize to Obama was either a racist decision or a political one.

But here's the press release. Note the reference to nuclear weapons - and remember Obama's contribution to delaying India-US nuclear cooperation by a generation. The committee may very well have been influenced by what it saw as a track record on nuclear weapons.

The Nobel Peace Prize 2009
Barack Obama’s legacy weighs down U.S.-India nuclear deal
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Your second link - what does Brahma Chellaney mean by this: "An Obama triumph — good for America and good for the world — will help add momentum to the U.S.-India relationship by freeing it of the albatross that the deal now represents." ????
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I interpret that to mean that there would be progress in other fields, not nuclear if Obama were to win. Which a McCain win would cause some friction on the nuclear front, since India could not operationalize the amended deal while the McCain administration would want to.
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..Obama got his Nobel before he bombed anything, just 9 months into his first term...
Wech Baghtu wedding party airstrike
.. Afghan President Hamid Karzai responded by demanding that newly-elected US President Barack Obama end civilian deaths..
Obama becomes President: January 20, 2009
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Obama’s Final Drone Strike Data
On January 23, 2009, just three days into his presidency, President Obama authorized his first kinetic military action: two drone strikes, three hours apart, in Waziristan, Pakistan, that killed as many as twenty civilians.
Afghanistan: US Should Act to End Bombing Tragedies
...more than 100 civilians were killed in the May 3[2009] bombing.
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Obama gets Nobel Peace: 9 October 2009

A Wedding That Became a Funeral
..On December 12, 2013...killed at least 12 men and wounded at least 15 others, 6 of them seriously.

As he reportedly told senior aides in 2011: “Turns out I’m really good at killing people. Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.”
I'm sure AI can dig up more stuff for anyone who's interested in finding more.
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Greens win in bye-election beating Reform UK and Labour.
And guess what : Greens is the new Peace Loving party. They have outclassed Labout in sucking up to Peacefuls.
They circulated pamplets with photos of : David Lammy, Keir Starmer, Netanyahu and NaMo(yes NaMo) with appeal in Bengali, Urdu and Hindi ranting on the usual and asking for votes.
When questioned about this practice and ethics of this pamphlet live on BBC News, the Cheif of Greens(who is Jewish, May YAWEH absolve him for all the SuckinguP) says there is nothing wrong with in this. And believes there is no sectrian appeal. :eek:
And the same Goras and their press will be screaming from the top of their voice if such a thing happens in India !!
Talk about double standards!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
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The winning Greens candidate Hannah Spencers comments after winning:
. She went on to promise to stand up for "my Muslim friends" as well as the "white, working class communities", before apologising to her plumbing customers for needing to cancel jobs now she is an MP.
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In the meanwhile we have this for the above election:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yqpr28jrwo

'Family voting' concerns raised by election observers in Gorton and Denton
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@m_saini you are right. Obama continued the “war on terror” almost immediately after he was sworn in. Reminds me of the perils of relying on memory alone. The “framework” I had in my head was that Obama did the great surge in December 2009, and did little before that.
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... urb-growth
UK borrowing costs jump again on fears Iran conflict will curb growth
Investors suspect rising oil and gas costs will stoke inflation and delay cuts in interest rates
Phillip Inman, Tue 3 Mar 2026

UK borrowing costs jumped for a second day on Tuesday as the potentially damaging effects of the Iran conflict spooked investors concerned that growth will stall across the major industrial economies.
Investors fear inflation will rise, driven by rising oil and gas prices, hitting businesses and households just as they are recovering from a long period of elevated inflation.
Analysts said higher energy costs were likely to lead to price rises, forcing central banks to delay expected cuts in interest rates until later this year.
Brent crude passed $83 a barrel on Tuesday, up from about $60 in December.
The government had hoped that last month’s decline in inflation to 3% and a faster fall in Whitehall’s annual spending deficit would further push down the interest on UK debt.
However, the better-than-expected borrowing figures trumpeted by Rachel Reeves in her spring forecast speech on Tuesday failed to generate a positive bounce amid growing anxiety over the Middle East crisis.
Since the conflict broke out at the weekend, market bets for Bank of England policymakers to cut interest rates when they next meet on 19 March have fallen from 80% to just 30%.
Government borrowing costs have been on the rise. Yields on two-year gilts – effectively the interest rate – jumped as much as 16 basis points to 3.8% on Tuesday, although they later eased back to settle at nearer 10 points up.
David Aikman, director of the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, said: “The UK’s improved borrowing position announced in today’s spring statement has been overshadowed by the Middle East crisis.
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Gautam
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Entire UK navy in one picture, excludes submarine s

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drnayar wrote: 04 Mar 2026 14:40 Entire UK navy in one picture, excludes submarine s

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It is important to note that Bartania has more Admirals than Warships.
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drnayar wrote: 04 Mar 2026 14:40 Entire UK navy in one picture, excludes submarine s
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This is the Expat North Atlantic CBG of the USN.
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Manish_P wrote: 05 Mar 2026 11:14
drnayar wrote: 04 Mar 2026 14:40 Entire UK navy in one picture, excludes submarine s
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This is the Expat North Atlantic CBG of the USN.
Indeed , the only "partner" in the Iran war.
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https://x.com/i/status/2029278882751496215
@MeghUpdates
BREAKING: Harrow, London – A permitted Hindu festival Holika Dahan celebration was allegedly disrupted, when a group of Muslim youths from a nearby mosque reportedly pushed over speakers, intimidated attendees (incl. families & children), and returned with reinforcements to attack participants.

Police arrived ~1 hour later to take statements. Hindu advocacy group INSIGHT UK demands full investigation & equal protection for all faiths. Event had civic support from mayors & councillors
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Britannia Once ruled the waves
Sun never set there
Come 2026

This is the total size of Britain’s today’s Royal Navy:
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^^^No wonder the government said it will take couple of weeks or more to send HMS Dragon
and it will take 4 days to reach Cyprus at the least.
They outsourced all heavy machinery to US and keep few Show Ponies
And all Royal Family members are Naval Officers or most of them (except the two sons of the King)
They think HMS is sufficient to scare anybody
Or they have the option of Post Chicken Tikka all cylinders firing!!!
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