Iran News and Discussions

[V_Raman]

One outcome of recent wars - conventional BMs are useless in a war

[A_Gupta]

These are in similar category of our VSHORADS missiles. But when we place order it's going to be 100 launchers and 200 missiles. And our DM Rajnath Singh goes and gives a speech.. to speed up development, but nothing gets inducted.

As far as I can find out, the Indian MoD issued an RFP for VSHORADS in 2010, for around 800 launchers and 5000+ missiles; and yes, after interminable trials, the Igla-S was selected for emergency procurement. I suppose the decision was to wait for DRDO's product. The small order placed so far is also under emergency procurement. It is expected that India will go in for the same scale or larger than it planned for in 2010.

[uddu]

All procurement including VSHORADS for 2000 crore. So will be very small number of VSHORADS.
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE CONCLUDES EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT CONTRACTS WORTH NEARLY ₹2,000 CRORE TO ENHANCE COUNTER-TERRORISM CAPABILITY
https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage ... ID=2139102
Posted On: 24 JUN 2025

Key equipment being procured includes:

• Integrated Drone Detection and Interdiction Systems (IDDIS)

• Low Level Lightweight Radars (LLLR)

• Very Short Range Air Defence Systems (VSHORADS)- Launchers and Missiles

• Remotely Piloted Aerial Vehicles (RPAVs)

• Loitering Munitions, including Vertical Take-Off and Landing (VTOL) systems

• Various categories of drones

• Bullet Proof Jackets (BPJs)

• Ballistic Helmets

• Quick Reaction Fighting Vehicles (QRFVs) – Heavy and Medium

• Night Sights for Rifles

[Amber G.]

Narendra Modi on Twitter:

Spoke with President Dr. Masoud Pezeshkian and conveyed Eid and Nowruz greetings. We expressed hope that this festive season brings peace, stability and prosperity to West Asia.

Condemned attacks on critical infrastructure in the region, which threaten regional stability and disrupt global supply chains.

Reiterated the importance of safeguarding freedom of navigation and ensuring that shipping lanes remain open and secure.

Appreciated Iran’s continued support for the safety and security of Indian nationals in Iran.

[Amber G.]

Late Iran Supreme leader Ali Khamenei had "issued both administrative & religious directives prohibiting any move toward" development of nuclear weapons, Iran Prez Pezeshkian tells PM Modi

[A_Gupta]

^^^ yes, as mentioned, it is an emergency procurement of VSHORADS. The main contract is said to be imminent.

[KL Dubey]

The situation as I see it right now:

- Iran sarkar (goremint, "mosaic" military, and mullah regime) seem functional with new people taking over

- the top layer of Iran guys from last month have nearly all perished. Only the Prez Pezishkian (sounds uncomfortably close to "pechish-kiya") survives ?

- USA and Israel have bombed a lot of Iran but running out of new meaningful targets. Diminishing returns setting in?

- Iran seems to have plenty of missiles left. Some tunnel entrances claimed to be collapsed but the stuff is still in there to be pulled out when needed?

- Russia and China seem to be helping Iran considerably.

- Other western countries not interested.

- GCC arabs in bad shape, oil infra blown up, US bases destroyed and not operational (is this confirmed?). Possibly seeing nightmares of going back to camel breeding/date farming...the sands eventually burying the oil fields.

- Israel also seems in bad shape ? Tel Aviv seems battered, recently Jerusalem ("holy city" areas included) was hit by Iran I think.

- Trump sarkar claimed war is won, no need for allies ---> wait, we need allies to open the Strait ----> well, if nobody is interested then we still don't need any allies, all useless fellows ----> Sending boots on ground ---> Plan deferred/slowed down ----> next ???

- Folks like retd karnail MacGregor (Trump protege till recently), prof Mearsheimer (also military background), and one Scott Ritter (former nukular inspector sahib?) all keep saying "Iran is winning since it is still surviving and make things unmanageable for others both militarily and oil supplies through the hormuz and possibly red sea routes". These people seem to have gained a lot of following during the Ukraine war for "correct/realistic" predictions. What do BRF "experts" think ?

A different angle from Bharat perspective: mullah-rabbi-padre conflicts playing out in west asia. Which, BTW, is where all of abrahamism started (and seems like could end there).

- In my opinion padre is too far away geographically from continental Asia to be directly able to wrest control of Iran (~100 mn population), at the most they could dent Iran by air and sea strikes till munitions run out.

- While we have used rabbi as a partner, they are too small (~7 million) and too dependent on padre and desalination plants. Effectively, rabbi is/was padre's main strike package in west asia but they seem to be nearing exhaustion too.

- at the same time, rabbi has used intelligence agencies to apparently make padre acquiesce to their goals...i can't help but think Apestein was a part of that same blackmail/intelligence network

- mullahs on both sides (across the strait and across shia/sunni divide) are getting hammered one way or the other. Iran people have mostly lost faith in abrahamism, and GCC arabs care more about their lavish lifestyles and having foreign hired guns to run their countries.

- For Bharat, other than the fuel disruptions, this seems another lucky break in accelerating return of Bharat because mullah-padre-rabbi are busy trying to destroy each other.

- How best should Bharat play this ? I'd say: Double down on indigenous clean energy. "Support" all three combatants to the point of exhaustion, since none of them is strong enough to force us to "choose a side" other than our own side. Make the combatants more dependent on us (food, security, meds etc). Recall Indian expats from GCC and integrate them in Bharat economy (will have much higher impact than getting remittances). Ditch petrodollar, strengthen BRICS (Bharat is the chair this year). Anything else ?

[uddu]

https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/2035440257924264343
@ShivAroor
Anyone who didn’t think Iran had this kind of missile range handy is not very smart.

[Amber G.]

The Iranian missile strike has been in the news - I too mentioned it earlier - Dimona - close to Israel’s Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Centre was hit.

(The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) announced it is investigating a failure to intercept the Iranian ballistic missile.

[Mukesh.Kumar]

The situation as I see it right now:

- Iran sarkar (goremint, "mosaic" military, and mullah regime) seem functional with new people taking over

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- For Bharat, other than the fuel disruptions, this seems another lucky break in accelerating return of Bharat because mullah-padre-rabbi are busy trying to destroy each other.

- How best should Bharat play this ? I'd say: Double down on indigenous clean energy. "Support" all three combatants to the point of exhaustion, since none of them is strong enough to force us to "choose a side" other than our own side. Make the combatants more dependent on us (food, security, meds etc). Recall Indian expats from GCC and integrate them in Bharat economy (will have much higher impact than getting remittances). Ditch petrodollar, strengthen BRICS (Bharat is the chair this year). Anything else ?

1. Sirji, time for us to launch our own Len-Lease program equivalent. Sell them food, water, and whatever they need on credit backed by their SWF's
2. Keep our expatriate population there as long as they voluntarily stay there. We can sure do with the foreign remittances
3. Cut deals with GCC monarchies for future bases and restriction of Paki and Turkish influence. In fact, I am happy of the fallout between QA and Iran
4. Support Israel in return for access to technology. Offer them the chance to build fresh factories for their stuff in India. They have money, technology, offer them safe haven. Get them to build GCC's here for Elbit, IAI, et al.
5. Wait for post war construction contracts for our players like L&T et al.
6. Play the forex and equity markets with NIIF money to see if we can pick up good deals on firms like Aramco, et al.
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   This is not out war. We condemn violence in all forms. We will provide humanitarian aid. But we also need to be paid.

[Amber G.]

The situation as I see it right now:

- Iran sarkar (goremint, "mosaic" military, and mullah regime) seem functional with new people taking over

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- How best should Bharat play this ? I'd say: Double down on indigenous clean energy. "Support" all three combatants to the point of exhaustion, since none of them is strong enough to force us to "choose a side" other than our own side. Make the combatants more dependent on us (food, security, meds etc). Recall Indian expats from GCC and integrate them in Bharat economy (will have much higher impact than getting remittances). Ditch petrodollar, strengthen BRICS (Bharat is the chair this year). Anything else ?

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This is not out war. We condemn violence in all forms. We will provide humanitarian aid. But we also need to be paid.

I have started a new thread to I think it may be appropriate to use a new thread.

[uddu]

Mossad Is Now Targeting Iran’s Enforcers

[uddu]

US video said to show strikes on Iranian drones

What been seen in Iran is that, once the Air Superiority is achieved, there is a need to target a large number of ground targets including missiles and drones on the ground. The U.S is bombing them with heavy bombs. We do have a solution in ULPGM integrating the same on Tejas and Prachand. Specific launchers can be designed to make them carry so many multiple ULPGM on each pylon. Will be a bomb truck itself. This will allow hit and destroy targets on the ground with much cheaper options and large number of them can be carried in one sortie destroying many more targets than the usual lot of expensive bombs. Scalpel instead of a Hammer.

DRDO's ULPGM-V3 hits Bull's Eye: All you need to know about India’s new anti-tank missile
https://www.businesstoday.in/india/stor ... 2025-07-25

[uddu]

US Just FOUND Iran's Biggest Underground Secret... Then The B-2 Stealth Bomber Did This...

[uddu]

Meanwhile our SOV400 is yet not ordered.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... her-steam/
L&T had started the design process in 2017 for a midget submarine based on Indian Navy requirements for special operations. The design known as SOV400 is currently on offer to the Navy. Capable of carrying eight commandos, the SOV400 has a displacement of nearly 500 tons. The 45 meter long submarine has a crew of 12 and is propelled by an electric motor. The submarine has two 533mm torpedo tubes. The Navy has a requirement for two midget submarines but the project has seen little progress. The SOV400 design continues to evolve, with defence news channel Chakra, which interviewed the senior L&T official mentioned previously, recently showing a design which has several differences compared to previous exhibits.

The Iranian Submarine Nobody Can Find
The war in West Asia is no longer just about airstrikes and missiles. Beneath the surface, a silent game is unfolding. Iran’s submarine fleet, ageing, limited, but elusive, has gone quiet.

Satellite images from Bandar Abbas show one submarine destroyed, another possibly hidden, and one completely unaccounted for. In the shallow waters of the Strait of Hormuz, even a single unseen submarine can disrupt global oil flows and challenge the world’s most powerful navies. Is this absence a weakness or a calculated threat waiting to strike?