Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 22 Oct 2009 03:20

ramana wrote:15 Killed in Rah-e-Nijat

What does that phrase mean?

Nijat means to "be delivered from" or "get rid of" and so Rah-e-Nijat means "The path to Deliverance" from the bad miscreants.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Oct 2009 03:28

Rahul Shukla wrote:
ramana wrote:15 Killed in Rah-e-Nijat

What does that phrase mean?
Nijat means to "be delivered from" or "get rid of" and so Rah-e-Nijat means "The path to Deliverance" from the bad miscreants.

Thanks for the translation.

Considering the close association that the TSPA had with the nurturing and training the jihadis through the last three decades, I like my explanation better: No honor left!

kasthuri · Post by **kasthuri** » 22 Oct 2009 03:38

ramana wrote:15 Killed in Rah-e-Nijat

Not sure...my random number seed generated 27 today! Need to check with the TSPA to see if this figure is true...

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 22 Oct 2009 04:14

Another sign that a big TSPA sponsored attack in India is imminent

Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said that his Indian counterpart Chidambaram should arrest the culprits of the Samjhota Express and Rajiv Gandhi’s killers instead of blaming Pakistan of being incapable of coping with terrorists.

Talking to newsmen he said on Wednesday: “If we talk about the composite dialogue, they should not consider it our weakness at all.” Responding to a question, he said India threatens to attack Pakistan after every three months, adding, “We are a nuclear state and not so weak; rather, we know how to retaliate.

“I ask the Indian prime minister that if they have any information about more Mumbai-like attacks they should share it with Pakistan and we will look into it and would get back in 48 hours. But if India does not share anything then they would be responsible for any incident,” he said.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 22 Oct 2009 04:20

ramana wrote:
15 Killed in Rah-e-Nijat

What does that phrase mean?

Mukti- Marg (as they say saari pareshaniyo se Mukti mil gayee)

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 22 Oct 2009 04:54

http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/200 ... rists.html
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Fear grows over terrorists stealing Pakistani nukes

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 22 Oct 2009 05:11

Private Pakistani delegation lands in Washington

Pakistani nuclear weapons are India-specific, namely they are an answer to India's nuclear arsenal. Anything like the deployment of Indian Ballistic Missile Defense systems or expansion of the Indian nuclear weapons program will destabilize the situation... The nuclear issue has to be dealt with regionally, with India taking the lead

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 22 Oct 2009 05:16

Not only their nukes, but their life are India-specific too. Only reason pakistan exist is the hatred they have for us.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 22 Oct 2009 05:17

Gerard wrote:Private Pakistani delegation lands in Washington
Pakistani nuclear weapons are India-specific, namely they are an answer to India's nuclear arsenal. Anything like the deployment of Indian Ballistic Missile Defense systems or expansion of the Indian nuclear weapons program will destabilize the situation... The nuclear issue has to be dealt with regionally, with India taking the lead

They are not even bothering to pretend to be responsible, sensible actors. By constant repetition they have fooled themselves into believing that their lunacy and viciousness is normal behavior. I suppose it is good in a way that cards are being laid on the table.

James B · Post by **James B** » 22 Oct 2009 05:22

Paki Airlines growth is 200% downwards onlee

Losses suffered by the Pakistan International Airlines increased by almost 204 per cent to Rs39.88 billion in the 2008 financial year.

According to a report submitted by the auditor general to the National Assembly’s Public Accounts Committee, PIA’s losses in the financial year 2007 were Rs13.07 billion and its accumulated losses reached Rs72.35 billion by December 2008 against Rs37.16 billion registered by December 2007.

James B · Post by **James B** » 22 Oct 2009 05:29

US Congress approves new restrictions on military aid

An earlier joint statement by the offices of the two senators said that they had successfully attached an amendment to the Department of Defence authorisation bill that passed the Senate ‘in order to help ensure that military assistance for Pakistan is actually being used for its purpose: to fight the Taliban and Al Qaeda’.

The fresh limits include efforts to track where US military hardware sent to Pakistan ends up, as well as a warning that US aid to Pakistan must not upset ‘the balance of power in the region’ —a reference to tensions with India. (too good to believe that Khan is concerned about Yindia)

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 22 Oct 2009 05:34

Rangudu wrote:Another sign that a big TSPA sponsored attack in India is imminent

RAWngudu - nowadays I take such statements to mean"

"We Pakis have so many terror groups trying to attack you that we lost count some years ago, and now we have lost control as well. So you had better tell me who is going to attack you. Your guess is as good as mine. Don't blame me when you get attacked."

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 22 Oct 2009 05:42

CalvinH wrote:I think the book deal is already signed/declared.

Ah.... I am so slow. David moved fast

I should have suspected, the parts so far I have read proves he is a good story teller. From BRF perspective nothing remarkable. Probably he is reserving them for the book which will climb to NY Times Best Seller list.

James B · Post by **James B** » 22 Oct 2009 05:51

India behind most terror attacks, says Islamabad Bob

About Mumbai attack, Mr Malik said: ‘We have yet not received the seventh dossier, but we have arrested all seven accused of Mumbai attacks.’

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 22 Oct 2009 06:44

US Congressman snubs PML-N senator

WASHINGTON: A situation was created here at the Capitol Hill on Tuesday afternoon when Republican Congressman from 10th District of Virginia Frank Wolf snubbed PML-N Senator Syed Zafar Ali Shah who had come here to express the party’s point of view over the Kerry-Lugar Bill.

“I know why are you here, if you don’t like the bill don’t take the money,” said an angry Frank Wolf when he saw Syed Zafar Ali Shah in his chamber. However, the PML-N senator did not lose his patience and tried to explain the situation but Frank Wolf was not in a mood to listen to any argument.

“It’s your ISI and government who were supporting the Taliban,” the Congressman kept on bashing Syed Zafar Ali Shah who during the first couple of minutes was confused by the abrupt and unexpected response by Wolf. However, in the later part of the conversation Shah fired back saying, “Don’t ask me anything about the ISI or the government. I represent the people of Pakistan. And in fact it was the US government which kept on supporting the ISI.”

Leonard · Post by **Leonard** » 22 Oct 2009 06:46

Knowing Pakis -- They might be co-ordinating something with Panda ...

Panda's rhetoric has gone up 25 DB, and I think this is to mask, what the PAKIS attempt next ...

Alternately ...

Paki Bi...atch will launch the new "Dhamaka" somewhere, ((while GOI keeps sending Dossiers ..)) and then while S**t hits the fan at South Block ...

The Panda's will attempt to launch a riposte at Tawang ...

Something is sure brewing --

GROPER is busy fondling in PRC ... Now we know GROPER is Paki Army's pi**p in Zardari's beehive ...

GOI -- better come up with a plan to massively slap the Paki bia...tch, PUBLICLY, quickly, and thoroughly (massive re-construction at SUI, or sink a few PN rust buckets or ...)

&

then celebrate "DIWALI" with the SU-30MKI at Chengdu ...

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 22 Oct 2009 07:13

shynee wrote:US Congressman snubs PML-N senator
WASHINGTON: A situation was created here at the Capitol Hill on Tuesday afternoon when Republican Congressman from 10th District of Virginia Frank Wolf snubbed PML-N Senator Syed Zafar Ali Shah who had come here to express the party’s point of view over the Kerry-Lugar Bill.

“I know why are you here, if you don’t like the bill don’t take the money,” said an angry Frank Wolf when he saw Syed Zafar Ali Shah in his chamber.

You missed this part:

Later, talking to this correspondent Syed Zafar Ali Shah said the conversation of Frank Wolf was unexpected and carried no logic. “He was only expressing his anger but when I confronted him he was kind, soft and apologetic,” Shah said.

:p

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Oct 2009 07:35

ICG Report, "Pakistan: Countering Militancy in FATA"

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Oct 2009 08:03

shynee wrote:US Congressman snubs PML-N senator

WASHINGTON: A situation was created here at the Capitol Hill on Tuesday afternoon when Republican Congressman from 10th District of Virginia Frank Wolf snubbed PML-N Senator Syed Zafar Ali Shah who had come here to express the party’s point of view over the Kerry-Lugar Bill.

“I know why are you here, if you don’t like the bill don’t take the money,” said an angry Frank Wolf when he saw Syed Zafar Ali Shah in his chamber. ................

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan has certainly quite a collection of ungrateful beggars in its midst

and need to be sharply reminded from time to time of their place and status as beggars.

Earlier US Senator John Kerry’s advise to Pakistan

:

“if you don’t want the money, say so. We’re not forcing you to take it”

Daily Times

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 22 Oct 2009 08:59

Two Pakistan army men killed in Islamabad firing

ISLAMABAD: At least two army soldiers have embraced martyrdom and one sustained bullet-inflicted wounds as two unknown armed miscreants, riding motorcycle, opened fire on an army jeep, which was on its way in G-11 Sector in Islamabad, rescue sources said early on Thursday morning.

According to SHO police Inayat, one among dead army men was Brigadier Moin, meanwhile, police have launched search operation in order to locate fleeing militants.

It is pertinent to mention that G-11 Sector is the residential area of top army officials in Islamabad while pillion riding is also already banned in federal capital.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Oct 2009 09:03

It appears that the US may offer civilian nuclear deal to Pakistan as well.

While implying that the US-India nuclear deal was unique and ''we are not going to use it as a template in specifics,'' for other countries, Clinton said its broad outlines to offer (to other countries) peaceful nuclear energy while at the same time having safeguards and verification is something the administration is looking at closely. The goal here is to ensure that the fuel cycle that does not spin into non-peaceful purposes, she added.

Link

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 22 Oct 2009 09:08

SSridhar wrote:It appears that the US may offer civilian nuclear deal to Pakistan as well.

looks like they feel SDREs are not willing to handover nooks, so they want to do equal-equal by giving P'stan a nook deal just like yindoos and prop up its H&D in the world's eyes.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Oct 2009 09:08

Need more info on S Waziristan ops/R-e-N. Please trawl all the sources:blogs, newsites, twitter what ever.
Thanks, ramana

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 22 Oct 2009 09:11

Pakistan’s Second Front ---- Ayesha Siddiqa.

sum · Post by **sum** » 22 Oct 2009 09:14

According to SHO police Inayat, one among dead army men was Brigadier Moin, meanwhile, police have launched search operation in order to locate fleeing militants.

Wonder what the past of this brigadier is?

Usually, it takes a few weeks before juicy details of ANY hallaled TSPA army man comes out... Hope that he was also involved in anti-India ops and karma caught up with him.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 22 Oct 2009 09:15

sum wrote:Wonder what the past of this brigadier is?

Usually, it takes a few weeks before juicy details of ANY hallaled TSPA army man comes out... Hope that he was also involved in anti-India ops and karma caught up with him.

Likely MI or ISI with ties to one jihadi tanzeem or another.

The untold part of the GHQ attack was that the attackers targeted an MI building.

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Oct 2009 09:20

shravan wrote:
Two Pakistan army men killed in Islamabad firing

ISLAMABAD: ................ According to SHO police Inayat, one among dead army men was Brigadier Moin, meanwhile, police have launched search operation in order to locate fleeing militants. ...................

A bright and early start to the boom and light show in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan I see.

I certainly cannot complain about the spectacle of the uniformed Jihadi’s of the Pakistan Army being put down by un-uniformed Jihadi’s given role of Pakistan’s Army in fomenting terrorism targeting India.

Is there any secondary source confirmation that a Brigadier was indeed put down ?

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 22 Oct 2009 09:23

http://www.newsweek.com/id/217090

Joe Biden had a question. During a long Sunday meeting with President Obama and top national-security advisers on Sept. 13, the VP interjected, "Can I just clarify a factual point? How much will we spend this year on Afghanistan?" Someone provided the figure: $65 billion. "And how much will we spend on Pakistan?" Another figure was supplied: $2.25 billion. "Well, by my calculations that's a 30-to-1 ratio in favor of Afghanistan. So I have a question. Al Qaeda is almost all in Pakistan, and Pakistan has nuclear weapons. And yet for every dollar we're spending in Pakistan, we're spending $30 in Afghanistan. Does that make strategic sense?" The White House Situation Room fell silent. But the questions had their desired effect: those gathered began putting more thought into Pakistan as the key theater in the region.

Rishi · Post by **Rishi** » 22 Oct 2009 09:27

sum wrote:
According to SHO police Inayat, one among dead army men was Brigadier Moin, meanwhile, police have launched search operation in order to locate fleeing militants.
Wonder what the past of this brigadier is?

Usually, it takes a few weeks before juicy details of ANY hallaled TSPA army man comes out... Hope that he was also involved in anti-India ops and karma caught up with him.

Twitter: Brigadier Moin killed in today's Islamabad attack was involved in the planning of the Waziristan operation

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Oct 2009 09:31

Acharya wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/id/217090
. . .Al Qaeda is almost all in Pakistan, and Pakistan has nuclear weapons. And yet for every dollar we're spending in Pakistan, we're spending $30 in Afghanistan. Does that make strategic sense?" [/b]The White House Situation Room fell silent. But the questions had their desired effect: those gathered began putting more thought into Pakistan as the key theater in the region.

I hope it does not lead to a misplaced enthusiasm to increase aid to Pakistan rather than spending more money to eliminate Al Qaeda/Taliban and securing nukes there. In the light of Ms. Clinton's hints at civilian nuclear deal with TSP, the above reference to 'desired effect' looks ominous for the security of India.

sum · Post by **sum** » 22 Oct 2009 09:35

I hope it does not lead to a misplaced enthusiasm to increase aid to Pakistan rather than spending more money to eliminate Al Qaeda/Taliban and securing nukes there. In the light of Ms. Clinton's hints at civilian nuclear deal with TSP, the above reference to 'desired effect' looks ominous for the security of India.

Thats the first impression i got on reading that!!!

arnab · Post by **arnab** » 22 Oct 2009 09:41

Acharya wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/id/217090

Joe Biden had a question. During a long Sunday meeting with President Obama and top national-security advisers on Sept. 13, the VP interjected, "Can I just clarify a factual point? How much will we spend this year on Afghanistan?" Someone provided the figure: $65 billion. "And how much will we spend on Pakistan?" Another figure was supplied: $2.25 billion. "Well, by my calculations that's a 30-to-1 ratio in favor of Afghanistan. So I have a question. Al Qaeda is almost all in Pakistan, and Pakistan has nuclear weapons. And yet for every dollar we're spending in Pakistan, we're spending $30 in Afghanistan. Does that make strategic sense?" The White House Situation Room fell silent. But the questions had their desired effect: those gathered began putting more thought into Pakistan as the key theater in the region.

Well I hope Joe Biden knows that all he has to do to change those ratios, is to move his 40,000 soldiers into TSP from Afghanistan.

Johann · Post by **Johann** » 22 Oct 2009 10:17

I'm not sure if this has been posted here before, but a longish piece on the 'Taliban' in southern Pakjab, examined through the accidental detonation in a village in July of explosives cached by a jihadi-trained school teacher.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8296485.stm

Worth reading.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 22 Oct 2009 10:17

the seventh dossier

Holy $hit!

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Oct 2009 11:07

sum wrote:
According to SHO police Inayat, one among dead army men was Brigadier Moin, meanwhile, police have launched search operation in order to locate fleeing militants.
Wonder what the past of this brigadier is?

Usually, it takes a few weeks before juicy details of ANY hallaled TSPA army man comes out... Hope that he was also involved in anti-India ops and karma caught up with him.

In so far as his immediate past is concerned, Dawn has described Brigadier Moin Haider as being the Deputy Director General Military Operations of the Pakistan Army.

It also had this to say of Brigadier Moin Haider:

Brigadier Moin is believed to have been involved in the strategy-making for the on-going Waziristan operation against militants, as well as the Swat operation.

Dawn

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Oct 2009 11:24

Today's Editorial in DT is instructive in understanding the basis for some of the discussions we have had here recently. It says

Those who have held exchanges of views with the Islamic University will remember that its students did not share the generally liberal outlook that characterises Pakistani society. {If Najam Sethi or whoever writes for him thinks that the rest of Pakistan holds liberal vworld views, woe be to India and the world} In this they are in tune with views held in most universities of Pakistan where religious parties have almost a permanent influence. {That was a legacy of Gen. Zia who banned all student organizations except the IJT, the militant student wing of the Jamaat-e-Islami} In Pakistan’s education system, the madrassas and the universities are close in their worldview.

Let us leave the 'liberal outlook' part above which should have been made in jest. The Islamic International University of Islamabad is a Saudi-funded university and is wahhabi therefore. For the salafists, even wahhabism is retrograde. We can safely surmise therefore what kind of attitude that the graduates coming out of IIUI would hold against kufr Bharat.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Oct 2009 11:33

The Durand Line - Edit in DT

But just as the Indian fencing hasn’t allayed Pakistani fears of Indian “interference” , the Pashtuns of Afghanistan have never ceased complaining of Pakistani interference.

Really, that is not being clever. India erected the fence to protect itself from *Pakistani interference*. If it was meant to allay Pakistani fears, why did Pakistan violently object to the erection of the fence when it was being built and why did Pakistani forces try to destroy it ?

Rishi · Post by **Rishi** » 22 Oct 2009 11:34

arun wrote:
Brigadier Moin is believed to have been involved in the strategy-making for the on-going Waziristan operation against militants, as well as the Swat operation.

Dawn

Sounds like an inside hit job

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Oct 2009 11:38

Rishi wrote:Sounds like an inside hit job

Rishi, the AQAM (Al Qaeda and Allied Movements) are employing every tactic available to them. This is targetted killing based on insider information. The attack on GHQ was also largely an insider job. The Islamic University attack also wanted to eliminate a specific person there, apart from causing widespread damage and instilling fear. There have been targetted killings elsewhere also.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Oct 2009 11:48

All the arrested Hizb-ut-Tahrir members released by Court

He said the literature recovered from the accused was not hate provoking or against national institutions. Upon this, the court granted bail to 28 members . .

Jihad is an Islamic duty and kufr need to be killed. These cannot be called 'hate'. The turnstile-policy of the TSP government is working well. The government arrests and the court releases.