Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 05 Jan 2010 18:58

humble request to Ssridhar saar and other knowledgeable folks.

its time for a V2.0 of the Jyoti Arya's old "leaders of major islamist groups in pak"
article http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... /arya.html

things have changed a lot. new leaders have emerged. people like sami-ul-haq
seem to have retired from limelight. azam tariq, nizamuddin shamzai and fazlur rahman khalil(?) have been assassinated. some of the old rogues like hamid gul
are still around - untouchable and immortal.

we need a service pack update to id the "players" at the high table today.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Jan 2010 19:06

ramana wrote:How is Zardari doing?

I am glad you asked. DusPercenti is now a committed man, committed to the K-K-K-Kause, spewing fire and brimstone. Read on:

‘Fighting for Kashmir’s liberation is Pakistan’s duty’

Addressing a joint session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir Assembly and the Kashmir Council, President Zardari said India wanted to suppress the voice of the Kashmiri people through use of force. President Zardari said fighting for Kashmir's liberation was Pakistan's responsibility. Regional peace would not be possible without the Kashmir dispute’s resolution, he said.

While the maestro changes tacts to pander to the PA, the porki-kashmiris brought his day dreaming down to earth when they asked:

President Azad Jammu and Kashmir Raja Farooq complained regarding the poor performance of the Earthquake Reconstruction and Rehabilitation Authority (ERRA)

R Vaidya · Post by **R Vaidya** » 05 Jan 2010 19:29

Arun wrote

So is this killing of a Muslim Cleric in Karachi Sunni on Sunni intra-sectarian violence with the Barelvi’s squaring off against the Deobandi’s or is this killing a case of Shia on Sunni sectarian violence :

It is hierarchy of exclusion and search for purity--Ahmedia's are excluded then Bahai s then Bhoras then Aga Khanis then Shias etc
Each exclusion calls for sucide attack to purify the land. Interestingly Wahabis cannot be abused as impure since land of sand controls purse strings and idealogy to decide impurity--
In India exclusion and purity invovles self denial /fasting and death. It is suffering by oneself --ultimate is some Jain munis acheiving Nirvana by fasting for months and dying.
One system wants to kill others for purity another wants to have self denial--
No comparison--
R Vaidya

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 20:15

SSridhar wrote:Benazir Bhutto International Boxing Tournament and Tablighis at work

Six boxers of Central Africa have decided to embrace Islam after they were greatly struck by the behaviour of the Muslims during their stay here.

The tally has gone up to 9 from 6

A group of nine boxers belonging to Cameron and Central Africa today embraced Islam during ongoing Benazir Bhutto International Boxing Tournament in Karachi.

The Pakistan Boxing Federation said that it hosted the international boxing event to create a soft image of the country.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jan 2010 21:38

sum wrote:
He said about the Indian system that despite having so many evidences against Kasab, GoI has still not prosecuted him. So it's insane of India to assume Pakistan will prosecute so many of them quickly without proper evidence.
This is one stick with which GoI can be beaten over and over again..and the worst part is its self inflicted.

I used to think so too. However i realize its a way of GOI to make US realize the hurt wont go away. So dragging the trial as long as possible until all evidences are chased down is also useful for keeping the International opinion locked up. So in end thre is good karma.

The minute Kasab is sentenced, the US pressure to compromise with TSP will increase manyfold.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 05 Jan 2010 21:43

ramana wrote:I used to think so too. However i realize its a way of GOI to make US realize the hurt wont go away. So dragging the trial as long as possible until all evidences are chased down is also useful for keeping the International opinion locked up. So in end thre is good karma.

The minute Kasab is sentenced, the US pressure to compromise with TSP will increase manyfold.

So can they keep this going on for 25 years like the 1984 riot cases? Taking 5 years should be easy because even Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's trial has taken 7 years.

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Jan 2010 21:48

X Posted.

Afghanistan's intelligence service the National Directorate of Security in an article datelined December 29, 2009 says that the September 02, 2009 killing of its deputy head Abdullah Laghmani along with 23 others in a suicide attack is linked to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The suicide attack was reportedly carried out by a Pakistani national Abdul Jabar and was ordered by two Taliban leaders who live in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Shahid Khel and Maulawi Kabir.

Deutsche Presse Agentur via Earthtimes:

Pakistani Links to the killing of Afghan Deputy Intelligence Chief

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 22:39

Pak cabinet decides to strengthen its defence to maintain 'strategic balance'

So, one can expect China to sell a couple of Han-class SSNs. There have been frequent high level PN officer visits to China lately. Of course, the intended purpose was to take charge of the Chines-built frigate. Recent expressions of India's concerns on the Chinese arms deals with Pakistan come to mind.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 05 Jan 2010 23:12

SSridhar wrote:Manish, Pakistani constitution is such that non-Muslims cannot even dream of becoming the President or PM of the Land of the Pure, but 'Pakistan is a multi-religious country' and so anything is par for the course while 'India is predominantly a Hindu country' and is therefore always to be suspected, according to the great South Asian expert Cohen. The very first Sikh to join the PA was just last year after 61 long years (though I don't know if he is still there without having been forcibly converted by the Tablighis) and the very first Sikh police constable was about two years back (though he suffered enormous harassment and discrimination on religious grounds and resigned a couple of times before being forced to take back the resignation lest they would lose their only showpiece of religious tolerance in the Land of the Purest). I do not think any Hindu is yet in the PA or the police.

More ridiculous than the above, a section of Pakistanis is now talking of removing Zardari from Presidency because he is not a 'pious enough Muslim'. There is a provision in the Constitution which says that those aspiring to be MNAs, PMs or Presidents in the 'Land of the Purest' must be very pious and demonstrate that too. In earlier times, this provision has been used to reject nomination papers of inconvenient politicians by asking them to quote randomly a verse from the Holy Quran, which they flunked !

So, even Muslims cannot be very sure if they are eligible for these positions in the Land of the Purest. AoA.

My God! Sridhar and I was thinking nothing about Pakistan can surprise me!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jan 2010 23:18

Manish, Try to read these two book reviews and preferably the books themselves!

1) Slavery, Terrorism and Islam
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 09#p793409

2) Understanding Real Islam
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 12#p800812

The second one shows how the teachings are re-interpreted to serve political goals and no one can question a hardline scholar.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 05 Jan 2010 23:34

Isnt 'Cold Start' actually aimed at pukistan? I am reading various articles (not the puki ones) and I dont see any mention of China. For example this SAAG article

Why this pukis are drumming Cold Start is about China and Pakistan? Looks like they are shitting all over the floor with fear and hoping some sympathy and support from China. China OTH has shown no interest in reacting.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 05 Jan 2010 23:43

ramana wrote:Manish, Try to read these two book reviews and preferably the books themselves!

1) Slavery, Terrorism and Islam
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 09#p793409

2) Understanding Real Islam
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 12#p800812

The second one shows how the teachings are re-interpreted to serve political goals and no one can question a hardline scholar.

Thanks Ramana! I will!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jan 2010 23:55

abhijitm wrote:Isnt 'Cold Start' actually aimed at pukistan? I am reading various articles (not the puki ones) and I dont see any mention of China. For example this SAAG article

Why this pukis are drumming Cold Start is about China and Pakistan? Looks like they are shitting all over the floor with fear and hoping some sympathy and support from China. China OTH has shown no interest in reacting.

Its the updated Cold Start and the briefing by Gen Kapoor and his junior Lt.Gen Lamba. Early on planning was that its a single front conflict but after US stasis India realizes it could be mulitple front. So they announced they have plans which is a good thing for it removes doubts from challengers.
TSP is in cold sweat as it counted on that very eventuality! Hence this rhona dhona.

I would like some jingoes to come up with what will it take to create a military administration plan run by Indians for post TSP situation say for fifty years for that is going to happen. For H&D can throw in Nato for Afghan border areas.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Jan 2010 00:17

abhijitm wrote:Why this pukis are drumming Cold Start is about China and Pakistan? Looks like they are shitting all over the floor with fear and hoping some sympathy and support from China. China OTH has shown no interest in reacting.

That chuha Ahmad Qureshi was doing the same thing yesterday by 'comparing' the rioters in Karachi with the Uhigurs setting fire to shops and claiming that these all have been trained at one place suggesting India's done it. All this to get some chinese sympathy on the side.

The chinese master is pissed at some of pakistan's poison rubbing off on the Uhigurs I suppose.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Jan 2010 00:20

ramana wrote: I would like some jingoes to come up with what will it take to create a military administration plan run by Indians for post TSP situation say for fifty years for that is going to happen. For H&D can throw in Nato for Afghan border areas.

We need vivek_ahuja garu for this.
I don't know weather his mil scenarios were a precursor to the chinese military deployment in Tibet or the result of it, but for sure his posts were read far and wide across the yellow river indeed.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jan 2010 00:24

You can take the lead and let him takeover once it gets started.
Am sure Khali will get upset!

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 06 Jan 2010 03:45

Good write up on the TOI tamasha by Greatbong

http://greatbong.net/2010/01/05/bhai-bhai/

Waking up on January 1 and with my eyes falling on the front page of the TOI, I chanced upon the announcement of an initiative to bridge fences between India and Pakistan through people-to-people interaction.

Immediately the monster hangover I was nursing from the rum-coke just took a turn for the worse.

I understand that we just entered a new decade but the old decade, was like, here just a day ago. A decade which started with a dastardly hi-jacking, warmed up with attacks on our Parliament and continued with sporadic acts of urban violence and ended with 26/11, all of them originating, beyond any scope of reasonable doubt, from a single land-mass to our West. Being that the case, the kind of amnesia that makes us want to “talk peace” with Pakistan, in a “people to people Track 2″ kind of way makes my mind boggle, in the same way that Jaani Dushman–Ek Anokhi Kahani did.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jan 2010 04:34

Aman Ki Asha bites even hardened generals!

EDITS | Wednesday, January 6, 2010 | Email | Print |

PM must reach out to Pakistan

Ashok K Mehta

The buzz in the air is that by extending the hand of friendship to Pakistan soon, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is out to make history, a distinction that eluded him in his first term. He had previously done so from Srinagar, Amritsar, Havana and Sharm el-Sheikh but without any follow-up action. New Delhi has doggedly resisted resumption of dialogue with Pakistan, despite repeated requests from its leaders who are saying Mr Singh has reneged on his commitment at Sharm el-Sheikh to delink dialogue from terrorism.

Why is Pakistan keen to revive the composite dialogue ? Some reasons being mentioned are that it wants to throw a smoke-screen over the David Coleman Headley trail which has recently led to three serving Pakistani Army officers. The ruling establishment wants to show that the civilian Government is as effective as the military in resuming talks with India. Further, it says that reopening official channels will relax the perception of Indian threat on its eastern flank.

At a Afghanistan-Pakistan-India trilateral conference in Kabul recently, Pakistani Senator from Peshawar Afrasiyab Khattak noted that early revival of India-Pakistan talks will enable Islamabad to be more focussed in its fight against the Taliban. Although New Delhi has not communicated any benchmarks for starting talks, it seeks the conviction of the seven Mumbai culprits which Islamabad has said it will be able to obtain by February. Action against Hafiz Saeed, banning Jamaat-ud-Dawa’h and dismantling the terrorist infrastructure have become legacy demands.

Sources in the Home Ministry are skeptical about an early conviction, saying three of the seven booked are alibis for the real culprits and have been paid Rs 3 lakh each. Is there a change of heart in Pakistan ? After three back-to-back Track II meetings with Pakistanis in New Delhi, Singapore and Kabul last month, some progress can be reported. Whether the recent spurt in suicide terrorism has altered the disposition of the Army and the ISI towards the Taliban remains doubtful, as they continue making a distinction between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ Taliban.

The Government, civil society and lay public are no longer in denial and many are saying tauba (enough) — “our own pets have started biting us”. They admit that the country is in deep trouble with the trouble spreading, and add: “Things are bound to get a lot worse before they get better.” The message is: Anyone who can help the civilian Government will help the cause of democracy in Pakistan. Last week, President Asif Ali Zardari said that political forces want the ISI to be brought under civilian control but the matter has been shelved for now.

On New Year’s Day, India and Pakistan promptly exchanged lists of nuclear installations, reaffirming the commitment not to attack them. India-Pakistan cooperation in multilateral fora is common, especially in United Nations Peace-keeping Operations. Not long ago, IAF helicopters rescued a beleaguered Pakistani patrol in Congo. Their contingents have worked happily abroad under each others’ officials.

Yet, when it comes to Afghanistan, Pakistani daggers are drawn to circumscribe India’s perceived over-ingress. Several Pakistanis have rubbished the concept of strategic depth, especially after the nuclear balance. Equally, there are not many Pakistani takers except the ISI for the return of ‘good’ Taliban to Kabul. Afghans and Indians reject the concept of good Taliban except those laying down arms and swearing allegiance to the Constitution.

In Afghanistan too, there is evidence of India-Pakistani cooperation. Accompanying the Indians, Pakistani delegates were smuggled past Afghan security into Kabul’s most popular Taliban-proof pub, posing as ‘kafirs’. Siachen, Wullar, Tulbul and even Kashmir were solved before dawn. Pakistanis give mixed signals on Kashmir. Many say after Gen Pervez Musharraf it is no longer the core issue,though its settlement will un-knot Pakistan’s eastern flank to allow the military to expand the war in the west.

At present, Gen Asfaq Parvez Kayani is telling the Americans he does not have the troops to take the war into other tribal areas. Pakistan is dragging its feet in mounting a fresh offensive on North Waziristan for fear of annoying its ally, the Haqqani network. Have no illusions, the Pakistani Army will not take on the Taliban even after Kashmir is resolved and India provides strategic assurance on the eastern border without US reassurance that it will not cut and run.

Over the last one year, 27 and 39 Mountain Divisions were de-inducted from Jammu & Kashmir to their permanent locations but this has not impressed Pakistan. It could pull out at least two to three divisions deployed against India without suffering any military adversity.

Pakistan is seeking assurances from India not just on the inviolability of its eastern borders but also in Balochistan. The first ever discussion on Balochistan at Singapore, thanks to Sharm el-Sheikh, turned out to be a major embarrassment when the Baloch speaker blamed Islamabad for all their woes, putting it down to wrong policies, misgovernance and stealing its gas, copper and gold. He warned that Balochistan was a Bangladesh waiting to happen.

Yet Pakistan blames India and Afghanistan for fuelling the insurgency. The R&AW is blamed for training 600 Baloch dissidents in Afghanistan, supplying arms and providing funds. When the US Ambassador to Pakistan, Ms Ann Patterson was questioned about Indian involvement, she said, “Pakistan has not shared any intelligence regarding India or else we would take action”. The US reportedly has a network of 40,000 informants with satellite phones all over Pakistan and would know of the Indian hand. The Afghan Army Chief, Gen Bismillah Khan says that Pakistan has been periodically alleging that Afghan helicopters have been supplying weapons to Baloch insurgents which is not true. Recently, Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani shared with Opposition leader Nawaz Sharif details of India’s Baloch dossier and advised confronting India with a copy to the UN.

Pakistan is in trouble for selectively trying to prevent its Talibanisation. The choice for India is between letting Pakistan stew in its own juice or reaching out. Waiting for convictions of Mumbai terrorists could prove to be a long wait, exceeding the needlessly extended Operation Parakram after the attack on Parliament.

Pounded by unstoppable human bombers, Pakistanis naively ask: “What will satisfy India”? On New Year’s Day, Aman ki Asha, an Indo-Pakistani peace project gave an emotional answer,ending with “Reach out.” Mr Singh missed the opportunity in 2006 to settle the Kashmir issue with Gen Musharraf, on terms favourable to India. Even with a high possibility of failure, he should give it a try again.

He doesnt state what will India get for reaching out to TSP? More terrorists? He hasnt said one thing that will convince anyone that India will gain. All the problems are TSP's capability of solution. If they really want to proect against India attack, let them have NATO/US troops in Lahore supplied from India!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jan 2010 06:18

'Non-state actors' for peace
Shame shaad Ahmak

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=217116

India-Pakistan rapprochement becomes reality it will benefit not only the peoples of the region but also the world at large in terms of economic opportunities. Durable peace between the two countries would not only be a factor of regional and global stability but would also enable them to divert their resources to improving the lives of their peoples and eradicating poverty and backwardness from the region.

Depending on progress on Kashmir and in mutual confidence-building through nuclear and conventional restraint, the two countries in due course could also explore a no-war treaty with a mutually agreed mechanism for conflict- prevention, conflict-resolution and peaceful settlement of disputes. This would be the sum total of visionary statesmanship that we need in our region to enable our two peoples to live together in peace and harmony. Meanwhile, the newly arrived India-Pakistan "non-state actors" for peace deserve our full support.
The writer is a fuddu foreign secretary.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jan 2010 06:24

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... inkmanship
India's brinkmanship
Such.Murakh Hali

The self-styled Guderian's jingoism and brinkmanship cannot be ignored because it is attributed to none other than the Indian army chief who through a series of statements, in November, warned that a limited war under a nuclear overhang is still very much a reality at least in the Indian subcontinent. Earlier he had made critical comments on the security of Pakistan's nuclear assets and now General Kapoor is threatening of dire consequences for both China and Pakistan with his strategy of Blitzkrieg.
]It is not a conspiracy theorist but Pakistan Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit, who has asked the world community to take notice of the remarks passed by the Indian Army Chief, stressing that India has set the stage and is trying to impose a limited nuclear war on Pakistan. He has cautioned against reports that the Indian intelligence agencies have made a macabre plan to hit some Indian nuke installation, alleging Pakistan for the incident and using it as an excuse for striking Pakistan. Nevertheless, Indian brinkmanship should only be ignored at our peril]

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jan 2010 06:30

And Here is Hadhimba Mati Mazari
Beggers want to advsie the donor. Ulta Chor Kotwal Ko Daante.

Purposeless knee-jerk reactions
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... -reactions

But there is a more serious issue involved here in terms of the US and its targeting by non-state actors. The US can do all sorts of tactical measures to secure its homeland from terrorism, but unless it makes a strategic shift in its global policies, it will never rid itself of the threat from extremist militants. For some strange reason there seems to be a total lack of acceptance by the US policy makers, especially Congress, of the impact of their policies including their tactical knee-jerk measures relating to security, that it is at the strategic level where the problem lies. There has to be a policy shift if they want to end the increasing hostility between themselves and the Muslim Ummah. That means accepting the Muslims for what they are rather than trying to mould them political into what the US wants them to be. It also means that a military-centric approach to terrorism will not work.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 06 Jan 2010 06:44

End of the military-jihadi nexus —Dr Manzur Ejaz

The military has no choice but to eliminate all types of non-state armed groups in Pakistan to save the state and its own privileges. The military may want to pick and choose among these groups, but circumstances will force it to take them out one by one

Malayappan · Post by **Malayappan** » 06 Jan 2010 07:19

Whose war is being waged? A piece by Iqbal Akhund, national security adviser to Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in 1988-90.
If we ignore his takleef on the India -Pakistan part, a good one. Some excerpts -

The fact, however, is that the US does, at this juncture, wish Pakistan well — not because it sees Pakistan as a friend but, on the contrary, because it sees it as a potentially dangerous enemy

None of this bodes well for Pakistan. In the worst-case scenario the presence of the Taliban on both sides of the Durand Line could provide an ethno-ideological basis for a revived Pakhtunistan movement

The army will eventually win its battle against these fanatics if it keeps it up. We have a better chance of winning it because we know whom we are fighting

Worth a read!

Malayappan · Post by **Malayappan** » 06 Jan 2010 07:39

Doing it to ourselves By Kamran Shafi The Dawn, 05 Jan, 2010
Asks many questions of pakis that we too often ask!

rohiths · Post by **rohiths** » 06 Jan 2010 08:43

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -india-610

Last nail on the coffin for the Iran-India gas pipeline

The sources said Tehran had been told that a friendly project between two neighbourly Muslim countries should not become victim to the interests of a third country and, hence, Iran should not ask Pakistan to guarantee uninterrupted supplies to India given the history of relations between Pakistan and India.

sum · Post by **sum** » 06 Jan 2010 09:00

PM must reach out to Pakistan

Ashok K Mehta

The buzz in the air is that by extending the hand of friendship to Pakistan soon, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is out to make history, a distinction that eluded him in his first term. He had previously done so from Srinagar, Amritsar, Havana and Sharm el-Sheikh but without any follow-up action. New Delhi has doggedly resisted resumption of dialogue with Pakistan, despite repeated requests from its leaders who are saying Mr Singh has reneged on his commitment at Sharm el-Sheikh to delink dialogue from terrorism.

Weird article which seems to have been ghost written by a Paki.

All the perfidy of the Pakis is listed in the article and still the author wants to give everything up and make love with Pak. No wonder, the soft state status will never leave us.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Jan 2010 09:14

Gooood Maarning Pa'aastan

Three dead in suicide blast in Rawalakot

MUZAFFARABAD: Three security personnel were killed and 14 injured in a suicide blast in Tararkhal, Rawalakot Wednesday, officials said. The injured have been taken to the CMH hospital, the SHO police said.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Jan 2010 09:22

Ready for ‘thousand-year war’ over Kashmir: Zardari

- Duspercenti says Kashmir struggle a war of ideologies
- Peace in region linked to settlement of decades-old dispute
- World will ‘take important decisions regarding Kashmir’ soon

Endorsing the pledge made by the people of Kashmir of waging a thousand-year war, President Asif Ali Zardari said on Tuesday this was a war of ideologies that would last for generations.

Zardari said Pakistan and India should learn to live in peace

Looks like PA got to him. If wishes were horses....

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 06 Jan 2010 09:34

What is dus percent of 1000 years?

I am more interested in the "World will take important decisions regarding kashmir soon" line.

This along with 'Chaman ki asha' and GoI's unexplained peacenickery, is suspicious to say the least.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 06 Jan 2010 09:37

From CNN News:
Pakistan: Taliban brainwashes kids with visions of virgins

Looks like the mijjile maalishing training starts very early in Pakland.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 06 Jan 2010 09:40

anupmisra wrote:Ready for ‘thousand-year war’ over Kashmir: Zardari

- Duspercenti says Kashmir struggle a war of ideologies
- Peace in region linked to settlement of decades-old dispute
- World will ‘take important decisions regarding Kashmir’ soon

Endorsing the pledge made by the people of Kashmir of waging a thousand-year war, President Asif Ali Zardari said on Tuesday this was a war of ideologies that would last for generations.

Zardari said Pakistan and India should learn to live in peace
Looks like PA got to him. If wishes were horses....

Pakistani president threatens war and then preaches to India about living in peace.

Never learnt lessons from death of benazir bhutto huh?
Help terrorists for peace and the terrorists will help you to pieces.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 06 Jan 2010 09:43

Jarita wrote:Good write up on the TOI tamasha by Greatbong

http://greatbong.net/2010/01/05/bhai-bhai/

Look at the ad in the pic.

That means Zaid Hamid, Shireen Mazari are all Indian agents?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jan 2010 09:45

Man is ready to replace Goofey in Disney. Bet his parents were cousins before they contracted nikah. But we must give the credit , He knows Paki wont get Kahsmir for another 1000 years otherwise there wont be any need for HajarSaal war.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 06 Jan 2010 10:16

anupmisra wrote:Gooood Maarning Pa'aastan

Three dead in suicide blast in Rawalakot

Link
MUZAFFARABAD, Pakistan (Reuters) - A bomb at a military school in Pakistan-ruled Kashmir killed three cadets and wounded 11 on Wednesday, police said.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Jan 2010 10:30

rohiths wrote:Last nail on the coffin for the Iran-India gas pipeline

The sources said Tehran had been told that a friendly project between two neighbourly Muslim countries should not become victim to the interests of a third country {especially a kufr country} and, hence, Iran should not ask Pakistan to guarantee uninterrupted supplies to India given the history of relations between Pakistan and India.

We have to question some bigwigs in India for the enormous economic damage they have caused to our country by aggressively pursuing the IPI landline case when we were all pointing to the impracticability of such a pipeline through uncontrolled areas of a Pakistan that is also a completely hostile country. These gentlemen argued that it would bring peace and after almost 14 years it has brought only ridicule. While this thread will not discuss O&G issues, these bigwigs were completely impervious or pretended to be impervious to the Pakistani mindset. How these gentlemen could be so clueless beats me. No wonder we have celebrity support for 'Aman ki Asha'. We need to boycott those who support such mindless programmes and agenda.

negi · Post by **negi** » 06 Jan 2010 10:40

Was there any talk or a proposal about an alternative route as far as sourcing Gas from Iran is concerned ? I mean were feasibility studies done on stuff like undersea pipelines etc etc ?

I guess the concept itself is not something impractical as there is a 1200km undersea gas pipeline between Norway and England and another 'Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan' line which is 1760km and runs through Caspian sea and is said to be buried all along its entire span to prevent sabotage.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Jan 2010 10:42

Negi, we won't discuss it here, but you may see this.

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 06 Jan 2010 11:04

SSridhar wrote:
shaardula wrote:Comments on Lakki Marwat bombing on LWJ.

these are the most weirdest responses i have seen from pakistanis. huh, who nu pakistanis could think like that?
I completely agree with you. It was a revelation. Hope they are not somebody else masquerading as Pakis.

A closer reading reveals two strands, both expressed by every poster. One strand is optimism and the other is reality. The reality doesn't lead to the optimism expressed at all. So, the optimism is delusional and desperation.

Those comments are utterly surreal

Anyway here's the updated link for the comments:
http://www.longwarjournal.org/cgi-bin/m ... y_id=24542

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Jan 2010 11:09

Sriman wrote:Those comments are utterly surreal
Anyway here's the updated link for the comments:
http://www.longwarjournal.org/cgi-bin/m ... y_id=24542

I am happy somebody else is also seeing the linkages between Nazi Germany and Pakistan

There was some talk of an analogy between the Pakistan Army and the Wehrmacht and the ISI/Army of Islam and the SS that was also touted for a while. The idea here was that the SS did all sorts of things, but ultimately the Wehrmacht called the shots.

sum · Post by **sum** » 06 Jan 2010 11:36

shravan wrote:
anupmisra wrote:Gooood Maarning Pa'aastan

Three dead in suicide blast in Rawalakot
Link
MUZAFFARABAD, Pakistan (Reuters) - A bomb at a military school in Pakistan-ruled Kashmir killed three cadets and wounded 11 on Wednesday, police said.

One of the "mujaheddin battalions" of the PA getting blown up by a fellow Mujaheddin?