RamaY wrote:
This is utter failure of INC govt at the centre (Not AP-INC leadership, and not UPA). And no one blames them if you notice.
Why is the state INC leadership above criticism? Are nt there subjects in the state list over which GoI has no control over? What is the progress in the districts other than Medak and Rangareddi in Telengana? It seems like if Hyderabad and the surrounding districts are developed, the whole Telengana seems to be prospering. But the counter-claim is Hyd is owned by the Costa folk, so how can development and prosperity in Hyd be a reflection of the development in Telengana. Who is responsible for this, just the Telengana leadership or the leadership of what is now AP that has let people down? Why are people so itchy to shift the blame on those feudal politicians of Telengana when the whole leadership, all across the board, from Costa to Seema to Telengana, is feudal in mindset?
Your consistency is what you feel is your consistency. You are selectively blind to certain assertions and you choose to blame certain aspects more than others without being unbiased as you claim you are.
Please bring all the data pertaining to T-exploitation, and the funds/resource diversion to AP.
Why dont you do the purposeful act rather than asking others for data? Please tell me how many engg/medical colleges/schools are there in every district of AP. Please tell me how much cultivable land is there per 100,000 population in every district of AP. Please tell me what is the average per-capita income in every district of AP. Please tell me how many kms of tarred roads are around per 100,000 population in every district of AP. Please educate me, are nt guys holding the census data? You have a point that Telengana is not being exploited, prove that, rather than make claims in the air. I did nt claim Telengana is exploited, I just claim that there are people who claim that they are being exploited. In fact, I am a third party in this dispute, I have no stakes either way. I just dont want this mess to downslide to a level where calling someone's demands as not valid on the ground in the first place, and if they still persist, use evocative phrases such as "Jinnah mindset", "khalistanis", "partition", "dhimmis", "paki", etc. liberally becomes par for the course on this forum. You can certainly put forth your point without spewing bile at people and in a way that calls for a decorum that is consistent with nationalist ideals. Certainly using evocative phrases and being super-partisan does nt win you brownie points for nationalism. In fact, you may well be driving away people who are from Telengana and who dont feel either way to the "other" camp with such spurious use of phrases such as Jinnah, pakis, etc.
How can you even compare the situation in AP to what happened in 40-47 beats me? Here is a region where one person has jumped the gun, a few have mobilized, and people seem to have just a bit more bias to a new state than to samaikhya-state [at least as per my partial reading of the situation], and there is such a liberal use of violent phrases such as partition. Cmon, is nt there common sense? What is Partition? Did Bihar go on this ululation spree when the coal mine areas went to Jharkhand? Certainly, if you read Laloo Yadav's ramblings, but he just shut up when the centre gave him a 8000k cr package. The Costa folk have land holdings in Hyd, the Costa land fertility is linked to water that is caught in the upper riparian region of Telengana, what else is the issue here. Why dont you sit down and negotiate on these aspects rather than put forth this tiger in a sheep clothing of nationalism?
If you are such a uber-nationalist, should nt you be arguing more about whether a small state, obtained by hook or crook, is good for the overall economic development of the region, what are the strategic issues unforeseen, what new and dynamic forces are coming up, what is the political landscape going to look like in 20-30-40 years, rather than all these whinefests? Certainly Maoist violence and the impact of the new state on the violence needs to be studied more carefully. In a forum where Islamism is par for the course, the impact of the new state on the Razakar-lites is important to understand. I, and perhaps quite a few people, would like to know what is the impact of the EJ-crowd on the new state and will it lead to a mobilization of the BJP strongly? What about areas such as Adilabad and those bordering Chattisgarh, will there be a demand for a Greater tribal state? Will there be state reorganization as a domino effect? What does this all mean for the future landscape of India, are we unleashing forces that are beyond our control, or are we letting a natural outlet for an economics-based vision of India of the 2050s? These are questions that a nationalist will come up with, not whether the KCR is an idiot or his daughter is an idiot.
. Unfortunately, this is all clouded in verbiage and given a spin of h&d, nationalism, maoism, communism, kcr-lite, "Prof."-speak, etc.
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