Tracking Errors in Defence reporting

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Tirath said advertisements of the ministry also come to her for approval before being sent to the Directorate of Advertising & Visual Publicity (DAVP).

Referring to the advertisement, she also said, "We are any way for global peace." - Krishna Tirath

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An unrepentant Minister for Women and Child Development Krishna Tirath [ Images ] defiantly refused to accept the blunder and accused the media of hair-splitting.

She said the "message is more important than the image. The photograph is only symbolic. The message for the girl child is more important. She should be protected."
what a supreme idiot, bar none.
She seemed to have backtracked

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... vt+ad.html
Tirath apologises, admits mistake in govt ad
Whatever happened was a mistake. Somewhere something went wrong. I regret it. I apologise for it on behalf my ministry," Tirath told reporters on the sidelines of a function to mark the National Girl Child Day.
Must have got a call from the PMO
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I was under the impression that there was a photo with the paki air marshall meeting SG and MMS (at a state dinner perhaps).
That is an official photo. How do you obtain that accidentally? Searching for "South Asians in Uniform"?
All the people in that photo are prominent. Who exactly did they think the paki officer to be?
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Sandeep Unnithan has a theory he posted on facebook
DAVP would be something like, 'kisi ek fauji ka photo download karo net se..."
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I would like to know what exactly they searched for. I tried air force officer and air force chief in google images, TSPAF ACM doesn't appear in the 1st page at least.
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Rahul M wrote:I would like to know what exactly they searched for. I tried air force officer and air force chief in google images, TSPAF ACM doesn't appear in the 1st page at least.
Search for 'air chief marshal'. He's on the first page. But the first pic I get is of Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major. Wonder why they did'nt use that.
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^
Obviously he is not TFTA. :roll:
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Is this former PAF chief an Indian mole ? Is it some kind of indirect signal to pakis ? :shock:
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Jagan wrote:Sandeep Unnithan has a theory he posted on facebook
DAVP would be something like, 'kisi ek fauji ka photo download karo net se..."
Exactly - and some clever clod would have found an archive of fauji photos and decided that this one looks good enough. This is exactly like the pharmaceutucal company brochures promoting drugs that are as potent as fighter aircraft and more often than not some American image is there on the brochure. Dumb company rep making dumb doctor thing great things are happening using firangi images because both sides are dumb "Ek fauji" indeed.

In this case at least some people were not dumb even though GoI has shown its stupidity.
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http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/news ... wsid=12260
Mounted on Tatra vehicle, the 500-kg surface-to-surface Shaurya has 700-km range and can be launched from fixed as well as mobile launchers. Boosted by a solid propellant rocket motor, the warhead moves at hypersonic speeds.
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/army- ... ps/571456/
A Global Positioning System powered by its own electrical systems, wind and temperature tachymeter, fire extinguisher, external storage facility for rappelling ropes, ice aces, pick axes and shovels, along with two 20-litre warming fuel jerricans would be additional features of the vehicle.
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Watching republic day parade live on HT (Headlines Today) and discussion on Wars India faught and here are the highlights:

1. 1972 war where we dismembered Bangladesh!!! :(( [Sure I missed that war!]
2. 1965 - completely forgotten
3. 1998 - Kargil war, forgotten

Oh I wish I can call in and kick the newscasters on their musharafs.
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disha wrote:Watching republic day parade live on HT (Headlines Today) and discussion on Wars India faught and here are the highlights:

1. 1972 war where we dismembered Bangladesh!!! :(( [Sure I missed that war!]
2. 1965 - completely forgotten
3. 1998 - Kargil war, forgotten

Oh I wish I can call in and kick the newscasters on their musharafs.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Oh God! Be happy, they haven't mentioned 2009 Kupawara War, where we "dismembered" militant soldiers!! :eek:
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Look at what Xinhua reported on their site.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/p ... 1948_3.htm

Image
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:eek:
What on EARTH is that? Is that deliberate?
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probably just engrish to blame.
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Indian militants are so patriotic that they celebrate republic day :) unlike the splitist cliche of chinese origin which burns chinese flags. :wink:
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Russian 5th generation fighter makes its maiden flight
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 512969.cms
The Russian Air Force intends to begin the induction of FGFA from 2015, India is also expected to induct at least 250 combat jets, which would be manufactured by HAL - the nodal partner of Sukhoi in the project.
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X-post from the UAV thread:

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/496 ... lands.html

Nishant crashlands
Aircraft has suffered minor damage, claims DRDO
Nishant crashlands
Bangarpet/Bangalore, Jan 29, DH News Service:

An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), Nishant, which was on a test flight, crashlanded in an agricultural land at Chikkatumutagiri in Bangarpet taluk on Friday following technical problem.


.....

In Bangalore, a DRDO spokesperson denied that the UAV had crashlanded. However, he confirmed that the UAV was the advanced version of Nishant.

Spokesperson Jayaprakash maintained that the wings of the UAV were slightly damaged when the aircraft landed on an uneven ground. "The area where the UAV landed was earmarked for emergency landings and it landed using a parachute. The villagers assumed it was a crash," he claimed.
He also said that there was no significant damage and that the aircraft was going to be used again.
As Rahul M pointed out
Rahul M wrote:the nishant, like many other UAV's, IS designed to come down by parachute but you can't expect DDM to know that. they make it sound as if DRDO is lying when it says it didn't crashland. :roll:
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Amazing feature of the Akash Missile......
"The missile is capable of carrying conventional as well as nuclear warheads with a payload of 60 k"
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 527577.cms

What a missile.. a SAM that can go nuclear :)
:rotfl:
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^^ :D Not the first time they've made that mistake. Check the earlier pages of this thread.
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wow.. do they not have any editor who has even a basic knowledge of what they write about.
At least get a reporter who knows the subject to cover these events. :roll:

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vcsekhar wrote:wow.. do they not have any editor who has even a basic knowledge of what they write about.
At least get a reporter who knows the subject to cover these events. :roll:

chandrasekhar
There is a reason they are called DDM. And since very few people actually know about these things, more often than not they go scot free. The only thing I can suggest is, if you have any contacts in these newspapers try and educate them or at least point them to BR.
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More DDM-itis on display. This time some poor hack confused Pakistan's NWFP (North West Frontier Province) with a newly invented term - North Waziristan Frontier Province. :roll:

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/feb/ ... kistan.htm
Taliban militants in the terror hotbed of North Waziristan have threatened the Pakistan government with a "big war" if the country's army launched any military operation in the region...

The Pakistani Army launched military operations first in North Waziristan Frontier Province and then in South Waziristan and is believed to be preparing for an offensive in North Waziristan...
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/503 ... -2012.html

Didn't know the Tejas is also our next AWACS. :shock:
Take that all LCA haters.
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Too much garbage to even bother listing
http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/ ... agtag-army
those who have a stronger stomach then moi can try


here is one example

For heavy lifting too, India only has clunky old Mi-17s and Mi-26s. Last year, the Army did put out a request for information on 12 heavy lift helicopters, including the latest Mi-17s and Boeing Chinooks, but the process is likely to take at least three years before they are inducted. Meanwhile, the Army may have to depend on indigenously made Dhruv choppers, which aren’t world class.
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clunky old Mi-17s
....and then......
latest Mi-17s
:eek:

And have a look at this
In cases such as these, there is need for a joint operation with helicopter forces and artillery—there is a need to command the area, not cordon it
:shock:
Artillery bombing on what? The whole of Kashmir? "Koi toh marega", eh?
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[url=http://www.expressindia.com%2Flatest-news%2Farde-looks-to-improve-on-multibarrel-rocket-launcher-pinaka]ARDE looks to improve on multi-barrel rocket launcher Pinaka[/url]
“The army had placed an order of 5,000 rocket launchers of which the first lot 108 Pinakas were handed over this February. They have indicated a requirement for another 50,000 of such systems,” said Dr K M Rajan, Group Director, FIE.
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^ 50000 :shock: forget China even Amirkhan and russia will sh!t brix. :rotfl:
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China's anti-ship missile no threat to Indian warships
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/feb/ ... rships.htm
On the delay in Scorpene series missiles, the Navy chief said his force was looking for a second line of production for the submarine, as there "is a requirement for upping speed" of construction.
Why is it so difficult for DDM to show some intelligence while writing ? Even after getting the response of Admiral where he mentioned submarines, he is still writing Scorpene missiles.
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AOA DDM has has achived a new feat

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article ... id=3622926
The drone of 3 Idiots could now serve Army, NSG
Weighing 1.5 kg, and having a payload capacity of 300 kg, Netra -- originally called Zeppelin and subsequently Carbon -- can perform Vertical Take-off and Landing (VTOL) operations. It can fly in a radius of 1.5 km at altitudes of over 100 m, for 30 minutes per battery charge. Each unit costs between Rs 18 lakh and 20 lakh, but the price is expected to drop once it is manufactured in larger numbers.

The UAV is fitted with a high resolution 2.5X zoom camera, which can be panned and tilted. It beams real-time live aerial images, and can record the footage. An in-built fail-safe mechanism ensures the UAV returns to its home position in case of loss of communication or low battery.
I admit I am only a commerece student, but are the basics of physics so difficult to understand.
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^^ No sirjee, its absolutely correct. Those clever yindoos have been poring over their ancient yindoo palm leaves to find secrets from their ancestors, and a top secret institute codenamed Ant Simulation & Study & Organization (ASS-0) has been studying how those little creatures carry many times their own weight in order to use the same on the top secret flying weapons they are developing.
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http://www.ndtv.com/news/cities/delhi_u ... curity.php
Keeps saying MP 5 rifle everywhere. But the best part comes here.
The MP5 rifle (Maschinenpistole 5 in German - "machine pistol model 5") is a 9mm submachine gun of German design, developed in the 1960s by a team of engineers from the German small arms manufacturer Heckler & Koch GmbH (H&K) of Oberndorf am Neckar in erstwhile West Germany.
Some smart person decided to copy the first paragraph from Wiki and then update it with superior knowledge to include the word 'rifle'. :roll:
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http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/news ... wsid=12392
The SMG, which is currently undergoing field trials that are expected to be completed between April and June, is the third element of the 5.56 mm INSAS (Indian Small Arms System) family that DRDO has developed. The other two are an assault rifle and a carbine variant.
Whatever happened to INSAS LMG, very much in use by Army and paramilitary! :roll:
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... 591273.cms
MiG 29 K Induction
With the induction of the advanced aircraft, the Indian Navy would join an elite club of navies across the world who have the MiG-29K aircraft in operation.
Wonder who are part of this 'elite' club. I guess the MiG 29 is completely invisible to the human eye even! Take that PAK-FA fanboys!
Captain Ahuja also explained that there are lot of differences between the MiG-29 B (Bravo) that the India Air Force (IAF) has been using and the MiG-29K , which is to be inducted into the Indian Navy.
B for Bravo. K stands for? :-?
The MiG-29 is equipped with anti-aircraft 'Beyond Visaul Range Missiles, guided Anti-Ship Missiles, 'smart' guided-bombs and rockets that are more lethal and better than the old MiG-29 K's armaments.
Which MiG 29 is this now? :shock: Damn! We should have got this one instead of the old K version.
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Post-nuclear deal, the United States appear sitting pretty on actual and potential defence orders worth US $10 billion from India, and these include F-16 and F-18 multi-rope combat Falcons that may dominate India's front line air defence umbrella by next year.
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/feb/ ... -deals.htm

1. Wow, those geniuses who said the MoD is slow got this wrong! :shock:
2. Didn't know that the Falcon designation applied to both F-16's and F-18's! :rotfl:
3. DDM is presuming this is a done deal! :roll:
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and these include F-16 and F-18 multi-rope combat Falcons
I hope these many ropes are used well, tie "A Correspondent in New Delhi" to it in flight perhaps ? :twisted:
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I hope these many ropes are used well, tie "A Correspondent in New Delhi" to it in flight perhaps ?
@Rahul - Perhaps in lieu of the MB ejection seats, the American pilot could use one of the multiple ropes to rappel down in case of catastrophic flight failure :roll:

The paranoia and absence of facts is really appalling!
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 598132.cms
"The STOBAR system will help arrest both the LCAs and the Mig-29Ks safely," he said.

He said that India is the second country in the world to have a 'wire arresting' system, besides Ukraine. American aircraft carriers carry out such operations by using a 'catapult' system, he added.
Always thought that American aircraft carriers use catapult to launch aircraft but 'arrested recovery' method using wires for landing but our DDM thinks otherwise :roll:
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