Internal Security Watch

sum · Post by **sum** » 18 May 2010 21:45

Afzal guru update ( after rip van winkle woke up after a 4 year nap):

Delhi govt apparently agrees with the death sentence but is worried about the "law and order situation" if the hanging happens..

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 May 2010 23:20

Its a game between Center and State govts. Center wants to appeaar tough by blaming the State. So State says no problem but think about the law and order means election fallout!

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 19 May 2010 10:45

sum wrote:Afzal guru update ( after rip van winkle woke up after a 4 year nap):

Delhi govt apparently agrees with the death sentence but is worried about the "law and order situation" if the hanging happens..

Lt.Gov sends back the file to shiela and asks for clarification regarding the "law & order" comment.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 19 May 2010 10:59

Stan_Savljevic wrote:NE ultras procuring arms from China
http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/det ... y1810/at07
Though it is not yet ascertained whether any Chinese Government official is involved in selling of weapons to the militant groups, it is now an established fact that the weapons manufactured in the Government run ordnance factories are available with the militants of the North East region.

If corrupt chinese officials were selling weapons then tibetans, uighurs and huis would be the first to buy them and run their own liberation movements. Since that is not happening its only fair to assume that there is sanction from the highest authority in china for the weapons to change hands. Point to remember is china is a communist state were even the slightest hint of scheming to harm the interests of the party earns the person a death sentence and visit by organ harvesters. So its highly unlikely for a person in the chinese ordinance factory to sell weapons to terrorists in India without political orders.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 19 May 2010 12:46

Manipur blockade enters sixth week. When protestors in Jammu protested for half an hour on the highway, we were treated to days of "Blockade

" by the Valley based intellectuals.

Here, the evangelical Naga separatist elements block the highway NH-39 (Imphal-Dimapur Road) and NH-53 (Imphal-Silchar Road) for five weeks, the GoI and the strong Home Ministry blissfully sleep and discontentment and frustration in Maipur grows.

The Lake on Fire: Manipur Burns, Delhi Bungles

http://maloykrishnadhar.com/the-lake-on ... hi-bungles

From the comments section :

Ibomcha Says

Thank you sir for depicting the real pains of manipur and the Meiteis. We are the only organized Hindu in Christian northeast. But Indian Hindus do not care for us. Delhi must do some positive step to give us fair deal. Under no circumstance we would allow dismemberment of Manipur.

Lajjaram Ganju Says:

Great article. Hopefully Congress government (Christian headed) would do something for HIndu Meiteis!

Charan Meena Says:

Very interesting. Is GOI doing anything to open the road blockage by the Nagas? If not they should send supply via Mizoram and by air. Under no circumsatnces Nagas should be appeased.

Ravishankar Tiwari Says:

I am a businessman in Dimapur. Three of trucks are stopped near Piphema, Nagaland by armed soldiers of NSCN. They demad Rs. 4000 per truck for allowing them to go to manipur. Indian raj does not work in Nagaland. It is the NSCN raj. What is the meaning of having a government as per costitution of India? Why Delhi is pampering NSCN? Are they afraid of fighting with 3000 strong Muivah followers?

Bharat Says:

Your article gives the complete information about causes of “terrorism” in Manipur.
But I had to look at the comments section to see the word “Christian’.

Regards
Bharat

And some comments by people who identify as Nagas

Kunjenthang Luikham Says:

You have partiality to the meiteis. We Nagas have lived like servants of the meiteis. Now we have our homeland. We want to join the other Naga brethren. Muvah is the diamond of Tangkhul nagas. We will declare Somdal as the second capital of greater Nagaland. We want meiteis to migrate out of the valley and we naga people shall build a Christian homeland in Manipur.

Jason Chakesang Says:

We have no quarrel with Meetris. We want greater Nagalim. Muivah will lead us. Our Christian state will have special status. If the Meeteis want to fight the Nagas welcome that.

Nungthei Shaiza Says:

Your comments about Muivah are deregatory. He is the new Phizo of the Naga nation. You cannot stop creation of Greater Nagaland. The Meeties would have live as vassals of the Nagas. Greater Nagaland will be victorious. Victory to Muivah-Isac and victory to Christ.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 19 May 2010 12:52

Naxals blow up CRPF van, 4 jawans killed

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/may/ ... killed.htm

Four jawans have been killed after Naxals blew up a vehicle carrying Central Reserve Police Force troopers in West Midnapore, West Bengal on Wednesday.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 19 May 2010 13:04

^^^ Did you forget the secular shite by the neanderthals in langpih, meghalaya?

Nepali community targeted by violent protestors in Meghalaya

Shillong Times reports that Nepali community were targeted by violent protestors in various parts of Meghalaya when several Khasi community groups called for 12-hour bandh (general shut down) in protest against the May 14 killing of villagers at Langpih along Assam-Meghalaya border.

Meanwhile, the Khasi Students Union’s (KSU) central body gave support to the &quotquit notices" issued to the Nepali community by its various units in Khasi and Jaintia Hills Districts.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 19 May 2010 17:14

‘Why should Manipur remain in India?’ : by Tarun Vijay http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... -remain-in

I will fight for India, that’s my motherland. But not many in my village think so. They feel India doesn’t care for them. He showed me a news clipping from a south-based daily which made horrendous reading - it was about the death of a Manipuri woman due to starvation. I didn’t find it mentioned in any other newspaper or channel.

The correspondent of the newspaper Iboyaima Laithangbam had filed an Imphal-datelined report:

IMPHAL: Takhellambam Komberei (70), a diabetic, died of starvation and lack of Medicare owing to the ongoing protest by tribal students in Manipur. While going to her home at Jiribam from here on May 5, the bus in which she was travelling was stranded on Highway 53 as a result of economic blockade. She and other passengers managed to buy rice at an exorbitant price of Rs 200 a kg from the nearby village. But soon nothing was available in the village market and they started eating roots, herbs and green bananas found on the mountain slopes. The old woman then started trekking up, but collapsed and died by the roadside.( http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/13/stories ... 060900.htm)

....

Manipur faces a crisis that’s communal in its colour and anti-national in its import.

Insurgents, blatantly anti-Indian, control the social and political life. They work on unhindered communal hatred. In Kashmir, Hindus were driven out by Islamist jihadis and nothing happened? In Nagaland and Manipur it’s the Christian and jihadi insurgents stifling the Hindu masses and their voices. The real fight is to get maximum number of non-Christians either converted or annihilated. It’s as simple as that. It’s a foreign-aided political colonialism in the garb of religious fervor.

Manipur is on their target for its Vaishnav traditions. And how? The China-fixed insurgent group Peoples’ Liberation Army (PLA) has given notices to all non-Manipuri Hindus to leave the state by May 31. Its slogan is – unless they sever all ties with “Hindus, Hindi and Hindi speaking people’’ their target to have an independent Manipur can’t be achieved. The best protection for a non-Manipuri resident is to display Islamic half-skull cap, because none of the Muslims have ever been targeted or asked to leave, no matter which state they come from. Thousands of Bangladeshi infiltrators have entered Manipur, but these so-called puritan rebel terrorist groups, one of them an Islamic one Peoples’ United Liberation Front, having its headquarters in Hebron, Nagaland, with NSCN-IM have kept mum about them.

The entire north east is in the grip of an unprecedented wave of Christianization with the help of foreign money. Recently on May 5, a huge Jesus statue was unveiled in Arunachal Pradesh said to be the tallest in Asia, in a region where Christian population is less than 5%. But still Kohima can’t have a Gandhi statue as the NSCN opposes any Indian icons in their region. So is true about Manipur where under threats from insurgents, neither can the national anthem be sung in schools nor can it be published in school textbooks. Even Republic and Independence Day celebrations are held only in government offices under tight security and wrapped up in minimum possible time. No school or private institution is allowed to have a function on such occasions leave aside hoisting the tricolor. The government employees, traders and politicians have to pay a part of their income to insurgents as a routine manner. Even the government contract funds must be shared with them and almost 20% of each such contract is distributed in cash to various anti-national outfits. What a joke of governance: terror groups are sustained on state funds!

Surely, there is an answer to ‘why Manipur should remain in India’- why shouldn’t it? Manipur is quintessentially India and India is incomplete without its hoary Radha Krishna traditions, tribal richness and Meitei culture. But the inconvenient situation demands self-introspection as an Indian people and state.

With a Puritan Nagaland on one side, Bangladesh nearby, and a Maoist-friendly, pro-EVM High Command sitting in New Delhi, the poor Manipuris are in serious trouble.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 May 2010 21:55

The police have been looking for Swami Aseemanand since the Mumbai [ Images ] Anti-Terrorism Squad arrested Sadhvi Pragya [ Images ] Singh Thakur in October 2009 in connection with the Malegaon blasts [ Images ]. The ATS had picked up incriminating intercepts of his conversation with the Sadhvi in which the duo planned the Malegaon blast. Currently, police teams from three states are trying to track down the runaway Swami.According to sources, Swami Aseemanand runs the Shabaridham Ashram in The Dangs district in Gujarat. He worked in tribal areas and focused on reconverting Christian tribals to Hinduism. He had a lot of followers and when investigators quizzed some of them about his role in terror activities, they were visibly taken aback, said sources.Swami Aseemanand, originally known as Jatin Chatterjee, hails from Hoogly district in Bengal. A post graduate in botany, he joined the Ramkrishna Mission for a short while before deciding to leave Bengal, disillusioned with the Left's rule over the state.He moved to The Dangs in 2001. Concerned about the conversions taking place in tribal areas, he decided to work among the locals and encourage re-conversions. Like the Sadhvi and fellow Malegaon blast accused Colonel Srikant Purohit, he was angered by the terror strikes across India [ Images ] and decided to avenge them, said sources. ( So its the EJ in GOI after him)Swami Aseemanand met the Sadhvi on several occasions and the duo discussed the rising instances of terrorism in India, the sources said.Following their meeting, the two decided to keep in touch and the plan to carry out retaliatory terror strikes was chalked out during their telephonic conversations, say sources.Swami Aseemanand used his driver's mobile phone while taking to the Sadhvi and the ATS has managed to intercept their conversations. ATS officials also interrogated the driver Sunil Dhawde, but he did not divulge too much information.

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/may/ ... -cases.htm

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 May 2010 02:18

Looks like some survey/assessment of public mood after Kasab got his sentence seems to have been done and hence INC spokespersons are on overdrive to bring closure to Afzal guru case. All these years they were the ones stalling the issue.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 May 2010 06:02

Stan and SSridhar do we have a good handle on ties between Maoists and Evanjihadis? I see that we study Maoists, L-e-T in isolation but narry a thought on Evanjihadis. This could become important as GOI deals with Naxal problem.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 20 May 2010 08:06

ULFA Chief in Bangla custody

NEW DELHI: One of the most wanted fugitives by India Paresh Barua , commander inchief of the banned United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) has been arrested by the Bangladesh authorities. AoA!!!

The dreaded ULFA leader was apprehended by the Bangladeshi security agencies about 12 days ago when he was crossing over to Bangladesh via Myanmar border after visiting Chinese Yunnan province.

“We are expecting Bangladesh to hand him over to us soon once they finish interrogating him,” sources told Express. Barua’s arrest is being considered as the final nail in ULFA’s coffin as most of its top leadership have already been handed over to India by Bangladesh.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 May 2010 08:57

Woah, big, big catch here. Hope no last minute hiccups happen and the turd is handed over for Desi hospitaity..

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 20 May 2010 11:46

One more

Swami Aseemanand may be key to Ajmer, Hyderabad blast cases

Investigators probing the acts of terror allegedly carried out by right-wing groups at Malegaon, Ajmer and Hyderabad are now looking for Swami Aseemanand and his accomplice.

The police have been looking for Swami Aseemanand since the Mumbai [ Images ] Anti-Terrorism Squad arrested Sadhvi Pragya [ Images ] Singh Thakur in October 2009 in connection with the Malegaon blasts [ Images ]. The ATS had picked up incriminating intercepts of his conversation with the Sadhvi in which the duo planned the Malegaon blast. Currently, police teams from three states are trying to track down the runaway Swami.

According to sources, Swami Aseemanand runs the Shabaridham Ashram in The Dangs district in Gujarat. He worked in tribal areas and focused on reconverting Christian tribals to Hinduism. He had a lot of followers and when investigators quizzed some of them about his role in terror activities, they were visibly taken aback, said sources.

Swami Aseemanand, originally known as Jatin Chatterjee, hails from Hoogly district in Bengal. A post graduate in botany, he joined the Ramkrishna Mission for a short while before deciding to leave Bengal, disillusioned with the Left's rule over the state.

He moved to The Dangs in 2001. Concerned about the conversions taking place in tribal areas, he decided to work among the locals and encourage re-conversions. Like the Sadhvi and fellow Malegaon blast accused Colonel Srikant Purohit, he was angered by the terror strikes across India [ Images ] and decided to avenge them, said sources.

Swami Aseemanand met the Sadhvi on several occasions and the duo discussed the rising instances of terrorism in India, the sources said.

Following their meeting, the two decided to keep in touch and the plan to carry out retaliatory terror strikes was chalked out during their telephonic conversations, say sources.

Swami Aseemanand used his driver's mobile phone while taking to the Sadhvi and the ATS has managed to intercept their conversations. ATS officials also interrogated the driver Sunil Dhawde, but he did not divulge too much information.

A team of the Rajasthan [ Images ] ATS recently traveled to Aseemanand's ashram in The Dangs, but he had reportedly gone into hiding since the Mumbai ATS started looking for him in November 2008.

ATS sources believe that the Swami might have sought refuge with the local tribals.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 20 May 2010 13:32

Nice.... Will have to wait for confirmation if the bustards are in the dock.

A person returning from “a business trip” in China has been held in Bangladesh, prompting the Indian government to verify whether he is Ulfa commander-in-chief Paresh Barua. Officials in India and Bangladesh are moving with extreme caution — almost a fortnight has passed since the arrest — as several similar alerts had turned out to be false alarms earlier. Unconfirmed reports also said Anup Chetia, a close aide of Paresh Barua, who had been in Bangladesh for over 10 years now, was handed over to Indian authorities in New Delhi tonight.

http://telegraphindia.com/1100520/jsp/f ... 468560.jsp

Ramana, it was fairly clear that the ltte with its burial tactics and Christian nom de guerres and even deeper connections to the Erik Solheim types in Norway was one of those well-penetrated outfits. The quid pro quo seemed to be berthing rights for Antarctic and IOR whale hunting, who would have thunked that? Not Diego Garcia, not thorium deposits. {Background: Tirikonamalai port has been one of those ports that everyone has lusted after for ages. If the Sinhalese are construcing Hambantota and not want it to rise up over Colombo port, that is because they actively want to ensure that Tirikonamalai port is never a competitor.} A petty petty reason to mediate on terrorism far far across from the shores. The folks I have talked to with a fairly reasonable understanding of how the ltte worked have dismissed my speculation of deep penetration as a buncha tripe with no connect to reality. But then the top-honchos could have been operating in their own world whereas the sepoys were dying like flies in someone else's war.

Certainly Prachanda or Mohan Baidya Kiran's talk-a-thon's dont give anyone any measure of comfort on how the top-maoist honchos think. Another weirdo fact is that the Indian maoist leadership is primarily FC well-educated elites (primarily from AP or WB). In fact, I can "see" a history of how WB sponsored linguistic awakening in AP all the way from 1905 Bengal Partition to the language-based states reorganization to hijacking other causes to keep the pot brewing in AP. It could well be that this cabal is using the tribals and the suffering masses in the rural areas for their petty goals of usurping state power. The sepoys again are dying like flies in someone else's war. The bottomline is that: all it takes for the goras to hijack a "movement" is to buy off the top leadership. I would nt be surprised if the west may not be innocent. But then establishing a clear modus operandi of whether the west begat maoism or whether the west hijacked a nascent movement is like hunting in the dark, we need to dig up the writings of unofficial terrorists such as Gautam Navlakha and Prashant Bhushan. Understanding the enemy seems to be a canard oft preached, but rarely practiced in nationalist talk-a-lot circles. Fortunately, the MHA babus seem to be immune to that disease, from what I can opine.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 20 May 2010 14:13

http://www.sentinelassam.com/editorial/ ... pr=1#36507

Of B’deshi Attackers

The illegal Bangladeshi crowd settled in Assam and gradually fanning out to other areas of the Northeast is a migrant community of a different kind. They are not here driven by economic factors alone, as the pseudo-secularist would have us believe. The crux of the matter is that ‘‘poverty in Bangladesh’’ has been blended with a larger design — annexation of Assam and other suitable parts of the Northeast to Bangladesh for the making of a greater Islamic state. In other words, the poverty-stricken Bangladeshi enters Assam illegally, looking for means of livelihood that the lethargic Assamese society readily provides, and then becomes an instrument of a mobilization programme directed against the interest of the indigenous people of this region and its resources. The real design is about encroaching upon more and more areas in Assam, including national parks and xattra lands; about reducing the son of the soil into a minority in his very homeland; about persecuting or eliminating him eventually; and ultimately about grabbing political power towards realizing the grand Islamic goal. This is the truth. And the invasion now is not silent, but open. This is the reason why most areas in districts like Nagaon, Barpeta, Dhubri, Hailakandi, Goalpara and Karimganj have such a hostile Bangladeshi ambience about them that no non-Bangladeshi would dare venture in. And things have come to such a terrible pass that the ‘‘poor, helpless, resigned to fate’’ Bangladeshi — as some Bangladeshi intellectuals and Indian pseudo-secularists would describe him — has now the temerity to even attack security personnel if an effort is made to evict him from his illegal area of encroachment, which he now believes is his land, his living space. On Monday, forest staff, accompanied by police and other security personnel, evicted over 400 suspected Bangladeshis from the famed Orang National Park (ONP), but not before the encroachers went berserk and attacked the security personnel, which compelled the latter to fire several rounds in the air and wield baton. Monday’s was the second eviction drive in the ONP. The first one was conducted in the first week of May.

Is it not so ironical that five years down the line since the pro-Bangladeshi IM(DT) Act was scrapped by the Supreme Court, Bangladeshi nationals in Assam should only be more audacious, more criminal, more comfortable? The apex court abrogated the IM(DT) Act after branding it unconstitutional, and it was that very perverse, anti-national immigration regime that the Congress had imposed solely on the people of Assam in 1983 to sustain its ‘minorities’ vote bank, comprising chiefly illegal Bangladeshis! Such was the violence inflicted on the demographic profile of Assam by the anti-Assam, anti-India IM(DT) Act (which the Congress shamelessly defended in the Supreme Court despite the full knowledge of the damage done to Assam by the notorious parallel immigration law) that today illegal Bangladeshis are capable of attacking security forces too, let alone the unarmed indigenous person of Assam or any other Indian citizen settled in the State. And today Assam has a political party like the Badruddin Ajmal-led AIUDF that has set a goal of about 40 seats in the 126-member Assam Assembly in the next Assembly elections in the State on the strength of the same class of ‘minorities’ vote bank. What is being witnessed is a contest between the AIUDF and the Congress to shield the aliens and expand their vote banks; the son of the soil can go to hell. Is it surprising then that incidents like the ONP’s are reported far too often? One wonders whether the people of Assam have already accepted their fate like a meek and servile society. If they have not, where is the outcry against an elected government that has failed to ensure their security? Or have all of them bought lands in other States as a precautionary measure? The security of the entire northeastern region is at stake.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 20 May 2010 14:17

Centre dismisses Ulfa leader Paresh Barua's arrest
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ce ... st_1385375

Whether the bustards are in the dock or otherwise, someone has to shut down the leaks from MEA and MHA. Madhuri Gupta case also saw a huge initial leak before things shut down completely. Ranjan Daimary's arrest as well as that of Raju Borua and Arabinda Rajkhowa's arrests were like a bolt from the blue. Rumors of PB's arrest has been around for a long time, but the wailing Axomese intelligentsia (aka PCG) will go on overdrive when rumors float around. Better to do a tight no-leak ops, easier said than done, I guess.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 May 2010 15:42

delhi has made the mistake of letting the NSCN function as a parallel govt in Nagaland - extort, retain arms, shout expantionist designs against assam and manipur and have the run of the place with the local admin cowed down and ordered not to do much.

Delhi should hang its head in shame that rice is 200/kg in manipur, petrol is 200/litre and LPG gas cylinder is 1500/. a state is bring brutalized and starved by terrorists and the army is ordered to sit in barracks and do nothing.

if something similar had happened to kerala or J&K - entire divisions of the IA would be deployed in a day and the terrorists scattered and the media mewling and howling from every vantage point.

if delhi cannot care about manipur, I wouldnt blame manipuris for not wanting to stick around.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 20 May 2010 16:02

Manipur blockade:

With escort, stranded buses leave for Jiribam

A large number of passenger buses and trucks on Wednesday left here for Jiribam bordering Assam, escorted by heavily armed Manipur Rifles troopers on Highway 53, where Naga tribal students have imposed an economic blocakade. While passengers are on their way to various States, the trucks are carrying essential commodities.

Several buses and trucks, which have been stranded at Jiribam for more than 40 days, will be brought here.

Some trucks and buses reached Imphal through Highway 150 via Mizoram. But the 700-km highway is in a bad condition.

Here is a part of NH 53 in pristine condition courtesy The Sangai Express

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4285/f02i.jpg

Two military cargo planes have been airlifting life-saving drugs and other essential commodities. Rice has been brought from Guwahati for being sold at government controlled rates. The government was under pressure to make the 225-km Highway 53 operational.

The Gov. is under pressure to make the NH-53 and NH-39. But will not clear it without talking with the evangelical Naga separatists for which Centre’s interlocutor for the Naga peace process, R.S. Pandey, and officials from the Union home ministry including Union home secretary GK Pillai will have to "placate" Muivah. They will then report back to PC. He would want to defer it to the PM who would maintain silence waiting to concur with other members of the Cabinet Committee on Security and RG ji and SG ji as well who are busy in UP. All would like all parties to be happy including the section of the separatist Nagas who would want to follow Muivah who has already declared "Nagalim for Christ".

One of the reasons for the aura around him is possibly his claim to spirituality. A devout Christian, Muivah speaks of a separate ‘Nagalim for Christ’, explaining that his idea of a Naga state would not be theocratic but that it would follow Christian values.

The armed insurgents under his command, christened by him as the Naga Army, are said to be the most disciplined among insurgent groups. NSCN-IM, he admits, runs a parallel government in Nagaland and collects taxes from the people.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100511/main4.htm

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 20 May 2010 16:57

with all this internal unrest going on

.....what the hell is Mr.NSA doing?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 May 2010 19:13

Venkarl wrote:with all this internal unrest going on .....what the hell is Mr.NSA doing?

Chidu had him for breakfast.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 May 2010 02:43

Stan I was looking for something like that but in more simple terms for people to get the message.
How about a blog for you? We can have folks gather data and you can analyse it?

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 21 May 2010 05:08

ramana wrote: How about a blog for you?

I am working on one using OS data gathering + scanning stuff from books I could get hold of. Let the semester wind down completely, I will have a bit more time to get things in a decent form and shape so that people can actually read the blog.

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 May 2010 21:48

Times NOW reporting that Canadian govt has denied visa to a ex-BSF constable on the ground that BSF is a "notorious human rights violator, esp in J&K". The turds have actually written that on the application and rejected it..

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 23 May 2010 20:47

Afzal Guru's hanging won't be expedited: Home secretary

MJ Akbar...
Is television more powerful than SC?

This is communal and racial profiling at its worst. In effect, the Congress government is saying that Indian Muslims treat a convicted terrorist as their icon. If this is the secret reason why Afzal Guru is still alive, then Delhi has lost its sanity.

Force should be met with force

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 24 May 2010 13:18

Abdul Bhatkal (involved in Mumbai attack) arrested in Mangalore: TOI

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 436913.ece

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 May 2010 23:58

Kerala: CPI-M distances itself from 'fundamentalist' Jamat Islami
Kerala [ Images ] Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan has alleged that the Jamat Islami is a religious fundamentalist outfit and said that the Communist Party of India-Marxist has never had an alliance with the organisation. Responding to a question on whether the state government has initiated an inquiry into the activities of the organisation, he said that as it was a national outfit, it was the Centre's responsibility to probe its activities.Balakrishnan claimed that Jamat Islami was operating under the guise of a social organisation, but the people of the state had seen through its gameplan and would not allow it to conduct any clandestine activities.State Congress president Ramesh Chennithala also claimed that his party had never formed an alliance with the Jamat Islami, and accused the CPI-M [ Images ] of entering into a secret agreement with the outfit. Chennithala went on to add that the CPI-M has always promoted fundamentalist organisations in the state, citing the Left party's alliance with Abdul Nasser Madani and the People's Democratic Party.The political denials come in the wake of reports of a secret meeting between the Jamat Islami and the Indian Union Muslim League. The league has put the blame squarely on the CPI-M and claimed that the latter had always protected organisations like the Jamat Islami.

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/may/ ... islami.htm

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 25 May 2010 04:10

It's kinda interesting to see how IM representatives behaved w.r.t Mumbai massacare and how they responded to balti-house encounter and Afjal Guru scenario.

So the "state sponsored oppression" and Muslim-special treatment is being kept alive while concessions are given in dealing with external threats.

Basically DDM and INC type political parties are Keeping this IM electorate paranoid enough (thru media and political mgmt) so they act as group-think instead of individual citizenry.

And it works for IMs as they get best of both worlds - special treatment in a democratic, secular environments.

It's also interesting how we (the arm-chair strategists) perceive this game!

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 25 May 2010 17:28

Bhatkal tried to use air crash to slip in India

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 May 2010 22:25

Nihat wrote:Bhatkal tried to use air crash to slip in India

Nihat ji,

The matter does not seem to be so simple.

He has been returned without fuss by the gulf wallas who may be facing the heat both from India and the US.

His tame return does nor look kosher at all.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 25 May 2010 22:49

Why can't India use its levarage in dubai and KSA to get all these terrorists deported. Gulf countries do not have any strategic depth notions to keep these guys to bleed india they might (very small probablity) have some sympathies that these guys are muslims but other than that a little pressure from India should do the trick. I think the only reason we are not doing it is because most of these crooks are running big time financial scams from dubai like hawla, extortion, supari, piracy, construction, prostitution etc etc and all of these are big money spinners and most of our politicians might have big cuts coming their way and so do not want to rock the boat. Plus public memory is shprt so no one is complaining about these so there is no real urgency to tackle them.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 26 May 2010 06:51

In an article by Subramanian Swamy, there is an intriguing mention of Sonia Gandhi's link to a certain Palestinian terrorist group. Swamy was told about this by Rajiv Gandhi, and this was confirmed by Yasser Arafat:

But the most sinister aspect of Sonia Gandhi’s links is her connection with terrorists. I am still working on it, but she has had long connection with the Habash group of Palestinians [PFLP], and has funded Palestinian families that lost their kith and kin in a suicide bombing or hijacking episode. This fact, Rajiv Gandhi himself told me and was confirmed to me [the funding aspect] by Yassir Arafat when I met him in Tunis on October 17, 1990 at the request of Rajiv Gandhi. Rajiv and I were good friends from 1978, but became very close friends after V.P. Singh had betrayed him in 1987. We met practically every day, mostly in the early hours from 1AM to 4AM, discussed, chatted and gossiped on every topic.

http://www.janataparty.org/sonia.html

Now let us take a look at this PFLP that Sonia is supposedly linked with. PFLP stands for "Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine". The leader was Palestinian Christian called George Habash.

Their most [in]famous action was the hijacking of an Air France plane to Entebbe in Uganda, which was then under the rule of the maniac Idi Amin.

What is interesting is that Idi Amin had undergone paratrooper training in Israel, and was very close to both Moshe Dayan and Golda Meir. Later he supposedly turned against the Israelis, and allied with the Arabs.

Here is a clip of Idi Amin talking about his relations with Moshe Dayan and Golda Meir: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPCm0irzx8

But there are indications that Idi Amin remained an Israeli agent all along, and that the Entebbe hijacking was a collaborative effort between the Israeli Shin Beit, the PLFP, and Idi Amin. The aim, apparently, was to discredit Palestinian resistance.

See Documents claim Israel aided Entebbe hijack http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jun/01/israel

Apparently, "the PFLP had attracted all sorts of wild elements, some of whom had been planted by the Israelis." (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007 ... -alliance/)

Thus the PFLP can be regarded as a west-backed terrorist group.

From an Indian POV, the morality of such a psy-op is not the concern. The more interesting issue is the company that Sonia has been keeping.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 26 May 2010 07:01

Pune blast suspect's arrest sparks controversy
Praveen Swami

http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/26/stories ... 501400.htm

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 May 2010 09:48

Bhatkal, a haven for terrorists?

This town has become a hotbed of terrorist activity and whenever a blast occurs in any part of the country, the police immediately point a finger towards the coastal town.

The Mumbai rail blast, German Bakery blast near Pune and Bangalore blasts all had Bhatkal connections, suspect the police. With the arrest of one more suspected terrorist in Bajpe airport on Monday by the A T S police, the question being asked is just how many more terrorists are there in Bhatkal.

In the Mumbai rail blast when the name of Bhatkal’s Riaz Shabandri came to light, the Mumbai Anti Terrorist police squad swooped down on him and collected all the information regarding the activities of India Mujahiddeen. They found out that more than 12 people were active members of this terrorist organisation which was involved in blasts all over the country.

When the Pune German Bakery blast happened it was found that terrorist Ahmed Yaseen was a associate of Riaz Shabandri. Now, it is being said that the terrorist Abudl Samad whom the police arrested on Monday is also the accused in the German Bakery blast.

The other 10 to 12 members in the terrorist list are there on whom the police is keeping an hawk’s eye and they include Ahmed Siddique, Bapa Mohammad Hussain, Farhan, Hafeez Jailani, Mohammed Gurfan, Abdul Khadar, Sultan Iqbal, Syed Abdul, Majeed and Arif Mohateshyam. The names of these terrorists are no longer a secret and they have are all hiding in other countries, it is said.

If only Indian Mujahiddeen founder terrorist Riaz Bhatkal is arrested, it will not take much time to arrest other terrorists from Bhatkal. Along with this the stigma attached to Bhatkal will also go.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 May 2010 13:03

Samad could have been one of those caught on camera outside Pune cafe

But investigators say they hope Samad's questioning will offer insights into the Indian Mujahideen's networks in the United Arab Emirates, from where he has just returned, and Pakistan.

Investigation sources say informants identified an individual filmed by the café's closed-circuit camera as Bawa. Bawa, along with key Indian Mujahideen commanders, Riyaz Ismail Shahbandri and his brother Iqbal Shahbandri, are thought by Indian intelligence to have conducted extensive recruitment and fund-raising operations among the Indian diaspora in the UAE.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 May 2010 13:10

Samad's arrest sparks controversy - Praveen Swami

Even as Union Home Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram offered his congratulations to police and the intelligence services for locating the “prime suspect” in February's bombing of a café in Pune, investigators have told The Hindu they remain unclear how — and even if — the Mangalore resident held by police on Monday was involved in the terrorist attack.

But Samad was produced before a Mumbai magistrate on charges unrelated to the February 13 bombing of the Germany Bakery in Pune, which killed 17 people. The ATS instead said it wanted to question him in connection with the recovery of small arms from Mumbai's Byculla area last year — weapons police suspect were intended to attack lawyers linked to the defence of suspects linked to a bombing campaign by the Hindutva terror group Abhinav Bharat.

Based on closed-circuit television images recorded by a camera placed over the cash counter at the Pune café, investigators identified one bomber as Samad's younger brother Mohammad Zarar Siddibapa — also known as ‘Yasin Bhatkal.' Fugitive from police ever since 2008, Zarar is wanted on charges of having supplied explosives and bomb components for attacks carried out nationwide by a jihadist network known as the Indian Mujahideen.

Zarar is believed to be a key lieutenant of top Indian Mujahideen commanders Riyaz Ismail Shahbandri and his brother Iqbal Shahbandri, both of whom — like him — hail from the small Mangalore-area town of Bhatkal.

The police issued a nationwide look-out notice to airports on March 25. India's Research and Analysis Wing later worked with Dubai authorities to locate Samad and secure his return.

Police sources in Mumbai say Samad is likely to be questioned for at least the next two days. “We're curious about his relationship with his brother,” one officer familiar with the investigation said, “and also about any contact he may have had with other Indian Mujahideen members in the United Arab Emirates.”

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 26 May 2010 19:04

It was SP of Bhatkal who identified Samad on CCTV footage when screening was done for police and intelligence officers at Pune. By that time Samad had left for Dubai, ostensibly, to get a job.

Why did he return?
Did Raa do the trick?
Did he sneak in to India taking advantage of mangalore crash?
Someone from Bhatkal died in the crash and he would have come to attend the funeral?
Whether he was sold by PK for judgment of PK SC on Hafij which came next day? PK would have known that after SC judgment India would be upset and had quid-pro-quo. Judgment had been postponed to 22nd May( the day UPA-II completed one year) and came on 25th, just a day after PM's Press Conf.

Crash was on 22nd. Whether any sabotage was there and samad came to celebrate?

Moreover Pravin samy , though knowledgeable , appears to be making a case out of thin air , for controversy.Did anyone else said a word about this?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 May 2010 21:34

Top Image retained for India's 2011 census project

AVIV (MarketWatch) -- Top Image Systems Ltd., /quotes/comstock/15*!tisa/quotes/nls/tisa (TISA 0.94, +0.15, +18.73%) the Tel Aviv producer of document-recognition solutions, was retained by India's Office of the Registrar General to collect and process the data from the 2011 census. Terms weren't disclosed. Top Image said that India's census is the largest such project in the world. The five-year project has two parts: housing and home listing as well as identifying and counting individuals. Top Image said that its eFlow solution would be employed to process the census forms. India's population exceeds 1.1 billion. Top Image said in a Wednesday statement that it expected to complete the first phase by September 2010 and to begin the second phase in February 2011. The company said that the India project is in line with TISA's strategic effort to pursue census projects worldwide and that it had recently won such contracts in Belarus and Vietnam.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/top-im ... 2010-05-26

Goi might as well sell info to EJ directly and earn some money. call the Project Vibhishan.

Marut · Post by **Marut** » 26 May 2010 22:57

chaanakya wrote:It was SP of Bhatkal who identified Samad on CCTV footage when screening was done for police and intelligence officers at Pune. By that time Samad had left for Dubai, ostensibly, to get a job.

Why did he return?
Did Raa do the trick?
Did he sneak in to India taking advantage of mangalore crash?
Someone from Bhatkal died in the crash and he would have come to attend the funeral?
Whether he was sold by PK for judgment of PK SC on Hafij which came next day? PK would have known that after SC judgment India would be upset and had quid-pro-quo. Judgment had been postponed to 22nd May( the day UPA-II completed one year) and came on 25th, just a day after PM's Press Conf.

Crash was on 22nd. Whether any sabotage was there and samad came to celebrate?

Moreover Pravin samy , though knowledgeable , appears to be making a case out of thin air , for controversy.Did anyone else said a word about this?

Our folks had some chai biskoot and the SOB came back for some R&R. Two kaccha folks were in the same flight with him all the way to keep the stock form running out. Mah ATS happened to arrest him just like that guy who was found at a bus stand.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 27 May 2010 00:38

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/may/ ... ak-bjp.htm

"There is a difference between the Atal Bihari Vajpayee [ Images ] government and the Manmohan Singh [ Images ] government. During our (NDA's) regime, attackers (terrorists) knew that either they will be caught or be killed," BJP spokesman Ravi Shankar Prasad said.

Yes sir... Jaswant Singh and Loh Purush Advani sure showed them at Kandahar... Mullah Omar is still quaking in his boots I hear at the mention of Jaswant Singh's name