Come on. Why in the world our genes have this fetish towards knee jerk reactions.Atri wrote:True... Just like Shaiva, Vaishnava and Sikh, Ahmediya is a religion of Indian origin.. They should be declared and accepted as part of Hindu-Conglomerate.

Come on. Why in the world our genes have this fetish towards knee jerk reactions.Atri wrote:True... Just like Shaiva, Vaishnava and Sikh, Ahmediya is a religion of Indian origin.. They should be declared and accepted as part of Hindu-Conglomerate.
The only tested insitution is the PA.Washington, DC: Worried about the rampant corruption in Pakistan’s government, a top US senator and former Democratic presidential candidate has urged the state department to keep tight control on the $1.45 billion aid that would be handed over to that country this year.
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"Among the Pakistani population there is already a fear that the funds will merely enrich the corrupt elite," Kerry wrote. "Channeling so much of the money through untested institutions so quickly could serve to confirm these suspicions.”
That is the where the K-L money is going to be spent on. It is certainly going to the tarrel than ocean and deeple than mountain fleind.ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan government will provide Rs18,500 million for nuclear projects, including two controversial new atomic power plants to be built at the Chashma complex with Chinese assistance.
There is some merit to it. Their messiah can be converted to Lord KrishnaMuppalla wrote:Come on. Why in the world our genes have this fetish towards knee jerk reactions.Atri wrote:True... Just like Shaiva, Vaishnava and Sikh, Ahmediya is a religion of Indian origin.. They should be declared and accepted as part of Hindu-Conglomerate.
Most of the temples & gurudwaras in lands that became TSP were destroyed, or plain occupied and put to secular use. Kadiayanis & other RoP had exited Indian Punjab and hence their places could have been dealt in the same fashion. Why it was not, is something I do not know the reason for. I hear that Qdianis are slowly thronging the Village of Qadian (near Amritsar) and the poplation pattern gradually changing there. It is a matte of time before it becomes Qadian/RoP majority.Gagan wrote:I don't think it is correct to say that India did them a favour by not demolishing Kadiya.
Sir-ji india is secular, we don't do things like that, but we do ourselves a disfavour by killing people in religious riots.
Actually Qadiya constituency is part of Gurdaspur District, Batala Tehsil. It is exactly 10 kms from the city of Batala., Batala lies on the route from Amritsar to Pathankot to Jammu as well as from Jalandhar to Pathankot to Jammu.by Prem
I hear that Qdianis are slowly thronging the Village of Qadian (near Amritsar) and the poplation pattern gradually changing there.
Here is a piskological thought. We seem to find pakis' obsessive superiority complex (vis-a-vis the kuffar) and an irrational desire to convert the whole world to Islam, despicable and bordering on grotesquely risible. But many among us seem to carry the same thought process. There is an inherent streak of superiority complex among many of us that finds solace in the pipe dream that what was lost to a thousand+ years of mostly one way street out of the fold of Indic faiths (Dharma) (millions of erstwhile Hindus converting to Abrahamic religions through coercion, intimidation, enticement, expediency or dissatisfaction during the last 1300 odd years) can be reversed en masse at some glorious future date. The 'inherently more humane and philosophically superior belief system of our (and their) forefathers' will be found a logical and inevitable way out of the mess that currently prevails. How different is this belief and belief system from the pakis' irrationality and hubris?There is some merit to it. Their messiah can be converted to Lord Krishna
that comment was first propounded here.may be some brfite is drop fatboy.....saip wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/fo ... 7_ST_N.htm
See the comments section under this link. Someone called 'Drop Fatboy' has an interesting theory and he supports it with 'statistics'
His argument seems to fit Pakis perfectly!
Yeah, that particular screed with its stats have been making the rounds of US rightwing email circuits for a long time now.saip wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/fo ... 7_ST_N.htm
See the comments section under this link. Someone called 'Drop Fatboy' has an interesting theory and he supports it with 'statistics'
His argument seems to fit Pakis perfectly!
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... kzai-blitz80 militants killed in Orakzai blitz
At least 80 militants were killed and 60 others wounded on Friday after security forces backed by jet fighters carried out a massive operation in Orakzai Agency. According to sources, jet planes pounded militant hideouts located in different parts of Orakzi Agency, killing 80 militants and injuring several others. While eight militant hideouts were also destroyed in the bombings. In addition, security forces also bombed and destroyed 15 explosive-laden vehicle and 15 mules that were in the use of militants.
The pious always keep the numbers easy to calculatePrem wrote:http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... kzai-blitz80 militants killed in Orakzai blitz
At least 80 militants were killed and 60 others wounded on Friday after security forces backed by jet fighters carried out a massive operation in Orakzai Agency. According to sources, jet planes pounded militant hideouts located in different parts of Orakzi Agency, killing 80 militants and injuring several others. While eight militant hideouts were also destroyed in the bombings. In addition, security forces also bombed and destroyed 15 explosive-laden vehicle and 15 mules that were in the use of militants.
A_Gupta wrote:Shiv, Raza Habib Raja isn't an alias of yours?
Change some pronouns and this could almost have been written by you.
If you go back to the earlier times all these people are called lost souls. They have similar belief that everybody else who is not their type will also convert to their creed. The only way is to find a way into the future where at least they can live their life without causing harm to other people.Abhijit wrote:Here is a piskological thought. We seem to find pakis' obsessive superiority complex (vis-a-vis the kuffar) and an irrational desire to convert the whole world to Islam, despicable and bordering on grotesquely risible. But many among us seem to carry the same thought process. There is an inherent streak of superiority complex among many of us that finds solace in the pipe dream that what was lost to a thousand+ years of mostly one way street out of the fold of Indic faiths (Dharma) (millions of erstwhile Hindus converting to Abrahamic religions through coercion, intimidation, enticement, expediency or dissatisfaction during the last 1300 odd years) can be reversed en masse at some glorious future date. The 'inherently more humane and philosophically superior belief system of our (and their) forefathers' will be found a logical and inevitable way out of the mess that currently prevails. How different is this belief and belief system from the pakis' irrationality and hubris?There is some merit to it. Their messiah can be converted to Lord Krishna
Thus the basis for a settlement does exist, and so does its logic. I (and countless others) have written and spoken at length about the benefits of peaceful coexistence, so I scarcely need to repeat myself. But it is important to underline the fact that extremists in Pakistan most fear a powerful, regional understanding that would pool resources to eradicate this threat. Thus, it is in their interest to provoke tensions between India and Pakistan, as well as between Pakistan and Afghanistan. If the terrorists are convinced that each time there is some movement towards peace, all they need to do to torpedo the process is to launch another attack against an Indian target. Whether there are rogue elements from the Pakistani security establishment involved is irrelevant: nobody in Pakistan who is in a position of authority today would take the risk of dabbling in these dangerous games. What Indians need to understand is that for a variety of reasons, most Pakistanis today are desperate for peace so they can end the existential threat extremism poses.
In Buddhist mythology, Gautama Buddha was assailed by the demon Mara when meditating under the sacred Bo tree. Mara appeared in the form of a gigantic ruler, mounted on an elephant 150 leagues high. The demon sprouted 1,000 arms, each of which brandished a deadly weapon. The point of the story is that this immense demon Mara was in fact Gautama’s own shadow self, an emanation of his mind, whose name meant ‘Delusion’. And it was necessary for Gautama to confront the immensity of his own delusions before he could see through them to the truth and become the Buddha. Truly, the delusions born from our fantasies and unfulfilled desires are colossal, bigger than ourselves, and capable of consuming us entirely
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_2An image from eight years ago, which I have previously described in these pages, is next. This is of an aging Mohajir father beside the body of his son, killed in Afghanistan and returned dead to Karachi. The face of the old man could have been expected to be a face of rage, or of grief, or even of sad resignation. But, no, this face is expressionless, the eyes tearless. His son is a shaheed (martyr), he says, and should not be mourned. He will now send his remaining sons, one after the other, to their respective trysts with martyrdom. Now, one can accept that the father could believe sufficiently in a cause to be consoled for his son’s death. But it is hard to accept that he could eagerly will a similar destiny on his other sons. More, that this bereaved father is unmoved to any word, sign or expression of grief, is beyond understanding. Grief for the dead is normal. Even animals show it ( Janab , animals are intelligent creatures)lack of sorrow, his ‘absence of affective response’, is pathological.And that is precisely my point. The set of delusions connecting these four ethnically, educationally and socially far apart persons is just that: pathological.
Ah...pakistan can't effort confrontation with india but it wants peace at at its terms.
The US military is developing plans for a unilateral attack on the Pakistani Taliban in the event of a successful terrorist strike in the United States that can be traced to them, The Washington Post reports.
The US has put Pakistan “on a clock” to launch a new intelligence and counterterrorist offensive against the group, which the White House alleges was behind the Times Square bombing attempt, according to the official.
USA is weighing of unilateral strikes option on pakistan in case of succesful terror attack on usa emanating from pakistan.But i think usa is beibg too rude and pushy towards pakistan.There will always be chance that terrorists will try to attack usa in order to disturb peace and relation between the two countries.USA must not allow it to be carried away by emtions in case of terror attacks it must show restrain and keep talking to pakistan on strategic and composite dialogue.usa must understand that pakistan is a nuclear state and there can be dangers of nuclear exchange between the two if usa attacks pakistan pre-emptively.there are chance that pakistan may react with nukes and wipe out lacs of usa forces stationed in gulf and afghanistan.So being a responsible big superpower usa must be paitent enough and must restrain itself unless it can flare nuke exchange in entire middle east wiping out 1/3 rd of its forcesabhishek_sharma wrote:US weighs military option in Pakistan: Report
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 987838.cms
The US military is developing plans for a unilateral attack on the Pakistani Taliban in the event of a successful terrorist strike in the United States that can be traced to them, The Washington Post reports.The US has put Pakistan “on a clock” to launch a new intelligence and counterterrorist offensive against the group, which the White House alleges was behind the Times Square bombing attempt, according to the official.![]()
here's an email I sent Irfan Hussain in response:Prem wrote:http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... s-fine-950
Come on in, the water’s fine!
By Irfan Husain Takiyya Ustad
Thus the basis for a settlement does exist, and so does its logic. I (and countless others) have written and spoken at length about the benefits of peaceful coexistence, so I scarcely need to repeat myself. But it is important to underline the fact that extremists in Pakistan most fear a powerful, regional understanding that would pool resources to eradicate this threat. Thus, it is in their interest to provoke tensions between India and Pakistan, as well as between Pakistan and Afghanistan. If the terrorists are convinced that each time there is some movement towards peace, all they need to do to torpedo the process is to launch another attack against an Indian target. Whether there are rogue elements from the Pakistani security establishment involved is irrelevant: nobody in Pakistan who is in a position of authority today would take the risk of dabbling in these dangerous games. What Indians need to understand is that for a variety of reasons, most Pakistanis today are desperate for peace so they can end the existential threat extremism poses.
Prem wrote:For Hakeem Shiv Moshai
analysis: Fatal illusions —Salman Tarik Kureshi
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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_2
This is a hopeless guy; like all other so-called liberal Pakis, his role model is Jinnah, who epitomized elitism, religious supremacism, and disdain for ordinary hard-working people.Conformity was imposed on the pluralism prized by Jinnah and a unitary state, belying his crusades for provincial autonomy, was created. In place of our rich and diverse heritage, cultural uniformity was imposed. Ideological formulations were trumpeted, dissent discouraged
Part of that is the strategic game. Islamabad has long used extremist groups in its never-ending competition with India. Part is a lack of military capability and part political cowardice. While some of Pakistan’s top leaders may “get it,” the public definitely does not.
Congress approved the first $1.5 billion for 2010, but the State Department is still figuring out how to spend it. The projects need to move as quickly as possible. And Pakistani leaders who demand more help, but then cynically disparage the aid, need to change their narrative.
The frequency at which this illiterate fool is asking for nuke deal make me wonder if some one told him that nuke deal would be same as groping sherry rehmanISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani on Friday urged the international community to provide Pakistan access to civilian nuclear technology for peaceful purposes in a non-discriminator manner.
In his message on Takbeer Day, Gilani said that civil nuclear power technology was an essential part of the national energy security strategy to help meet the country’s growing energy needs for the social and economic development.
Disgraced Pakistan nuclear scientist Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan has asserted that his country's nuclear assets are so safe that even a thousand terrorists won't be able to gain control over them.
fine, what about 10,000 or 20,000 ? wait, what about 5.5 lakhs ?Brad Goodman wrote: Even 1000 terrorists wont be able to gain control over Pak nukes : A Q Khan
Relax! His audience is the unwashed, inbreeding, malnourished and frothing at the mouth average grass eating Abdul in Pacquistan and the 1000 terrists he is talking about are the blackwaterRahul M wrote:fine, what about 10,000 or 20,000 ? wait, what about 5.5 lakhs ?Brad Goodman wrote: Even 1000 terrorists wont be able to gain control over Pak nukes : A Q Khan
here's C.M. Naim, a US Professor out of UP, on jang vs. The News:Brad Goodman wrote:now that photo chor Khan is free he is on his self serving H&D exercise
Even 1000 terrorists wont be able to gain control over Pak nukes : A Q Khan
Disgraced Pakistan nuclear scientist Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan has asserted that his country's nuclear assets are so safe that even a thousand terrorists won't be able to gain control over them.
On another occasion last year, Dr. Khan thrilled his Urdu readers with the disclosure: “According to the media, [Barack] Obama had earlier said, ‘Tear down the Ka’ba, for it is the root of every trouble.’” His English readers, however, were denied that excitement.
Zawar said that the attacks on Ahmedis were a conspiracy launched by international agencies to divert the world’s attention from Muslim protests on the Facebook issue. “American, Indian and Israeli agencies may be involved in these attacks in a bid to increase the propaganda against Muslims,”
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