Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 01 Sep 2010 16:50

Singha wrote:^priceless. like calling in The Joker and The Penguin to bring law and order to gotham city

As the Joker famously said "Do I look like the kind of guy who has a plan"? Does it look like that the PCB has a plan?

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 01 Sep 2010 16:59

Paki Diplomats use Airtime provided free to them for raising funds for their own promotion

I was not able to find an article for this. But what this host claims is true then this is another example of Pakiness at it's best.

On 25th August, Nasdaq gave there Nasdaq Screen the huge screen installed at Time Square to Pakistan High commissioner for free for one hour, so that he can play pictures of flood victims and collect some funds. Nasdaq estimated that with this Pakistan will be able to collect atleast $10,00,000.

But the Nasdaq team was in for a shock. The Ambassador and his cronies beamed their own pictures ringing the closing bell at NYSE. Of course no funds were collected...

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 01 Sep 2010 17:21

Paki's take on Indian Aid Offer

YOUR editorial ‘Indian aid offer’ (Aug 30) has rightly pointed out that the government and the ministry of foreign affairs are not beating at the same frequency. The much hyped Indo-Pak foreign ministers’ level talks made no headway as India remained determined to talk only on terrorism and Mumbai blasts. The recent devastating floods that drew attention the world over forced India to extend help to Pakistan for the relief of the affected people.

It announced $5 million aid on humanitarian grounds and it was accepted by the PM and the foreign minister. Pakistan, in principle, had accepted the offer but now wants that it should be routed through the United Nations. Whether it is routed through the UN or received directly makes no difference because it is Indian aid, either you accept it or politely say ‘no’ The afterthought of re-routing the aid through the United Nations may delay the arrival of the aid that is badly needed.

In fact, our direct acceptance could have helped in bridging the gap and overcome trust deficit between the two countries. What is the wisdom behind this move can only be answered by the government.

MUKHTAR AHMED BUTT
Karachi

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 01 Sep 2010 17:24

Another Feel Good Letter on International Aid

The latest figures of the US assistance for Pakistan’s flood relief operations reached $200 million, which is the highest amount donated by a single country. The aid given by the United States is reaching most of the flood-affected areas through the United Nations and other international organisations and has immensely reduced the burden on the government.

As part of the relief efforts a number of helicopters, medical teams and Marine Corps are also playing a superb role in helping people out of danger and treating them.

The significance of our country being the frontline ally in the war against terrorism is rightly realised by the United States and that’s why the relief efforts are at its peak with contributions in almost every sector. Apart from the US, the whole world community is pouring in aid for the flood-hit people; France has contributed a total of 7.54 million euros; Saudi Arabia has contributed more than $140 million and the World Bank recently pledged a total of $1bn.

FARUKH SARWAR
Islamabad

Note that the mention of their "taller than the tallest mountain......deepest sea" friend is missing.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 01 Sep 2010 17:27

http://thecurrentaffairs.com/shameless- ... video.html

New York Stock Exchange offered its large screen to Pakistani officials to extend appeals to the local people so that aid money could be raised for the flood-hit country...The self-interested Pakistani diplomats displayed their own pictures in suits and expensive clothings to self-project, spoiling the golden opportunity provided by New York Stock Exchange to garner money for flood-ravaged Pakistan

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 17:36

derkonig wrote:Pingrezi turned destination into destiny?

That's what it sounds like to me and the Jernail might actually have tried to show off his massive vocabulary in front of Yamerikhans. And after their echandee was rubbed in the dirt those guys went off in a huff. Cheap, thy name is Pakistan.

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 01 Sep 2010 17:42

For the benefit of paklurks who have missed out

Prem wrote:India's economy grows 8.8% in June quarter
These Quarter, Percentage , Manufaturing , Growth things are kuffar for Poak Loag. Simple way to tell them is Indian economy will add to its kitty in one year equal to whole Poak economy including Zakat, jaziya, Loot,Aid and Laid Paid fees from 3.5 Lovers. In ten years , we will be doing the same increase in less than 6months.

I would add not 10 years but less than five years.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 17:55

No clues about who abducted CJCSC's son-in-law
May be he is already moved to the badderlands (or, is it 'more pious lands' ?) within the badlands of TSP.

Police, intelligence agencies and other law enforcement agencies have so far remained unsuccessful in finding any clue regarding the adductors of Amir Malik, the son in law of Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC) Chairman Gen Tariq Majeed, despite a lapse of seven days since his abduction.

The Interior Ministry has assigned a special task to the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) in this regard.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 18:01

TTP & Operation Samosa

It has been reported from at least two Interior Ministry sources in Pakistan that the ministry is in a state of panic and, as one of the sources, who wanted to remain anonymous, confirmed to Daily Times, “We are currently in a state of panic. If the whole al Qaeda, Taliban, TTP, local jihadi organisations and floods were not enough, we are now under immense pressure to trace the links of the alleged bombers caught in Ontario, Canada.”

While the country’s media is busy commenting on the latest cricket betting scandal and floods, a whole new crisis, perhaps of the same intensity as the Faisal Shahzad one, is brewing within both the international community and Canada.

Daily Times, after intense investigations and a tip-off from a source, was able to talk to a leader of the TTP who’s been alleged by a certain Western diplomat of being the brains behind the would-be terrorist attacks in Canada. TTP spokesman Azam Tariq neither refused nor denied the statement, but instead opted to say, “We support anyone who would fight the infidels.”

The TTP also paid homage to Faisal Shahzad for his bold actions in the US and said he had rendered great sacrifices to uphold the sacred cause of Islam. America is not safe on its own land, Azam Tariq pointed out.

While intense investigations are underway both in Pakistan and Canada, intelligence officials in Pakistan are said to be focusing on a friend of Shahzad – Muhammad Rehan – who originally introduced Shahzad to the TTP. {A whole bunch of people in Pakistan is thriving on looking out for potential terrorists and connecting them with the tanzeems. Probably, they get paid handsomely. It has become a business, perhaps. There are two classes of such spotters. One, who hang around near mosques and catch hold of Kasabs and the like. The other is 'high class' who hook international terrorists and transport them to Waziristan.}

biswas · Post by **biswas** » 01 Sep 2010 18:03

^ Is this a government or a joke?

Bhima · Post by **Bhima** » 01 Sep 2010 18:10

Nick Clegg warns Pakistan will need aid for years to come

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Sep 2010 18:18

KARACHI: Four people were injured on Wednesday, as unknown gunmen opened fire at a religious procession in Karachi.

The firing incident was reported near the Empress Market area during a religious procession on Yaum-i-Ali.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ured-ha-11

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 01 Sep 2010 18:41

Bhima wrote:Nick Clegg warns Pakistan will need aid for years to come

Nothing new Mr clegg We know Pakistan is a beggar by birth.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 18:43

Bhima wrote:Nick Clegg warns Pakistan will need aid for years to come

What's new ? Hasn't it been happening since 1950 ? If there is one country that has not endured pain to achieve freedom from colonialists or grow by itself, then that is Pakistan and Pakistan only.

R Vaidya · Post by **R Vaidya** » 01 Sep 2010 18:55

It is not OT since it involves TSP--

http://www.dnaindia.com/opinion/report_ ... ll_1431123

Kashmir Valley’s problems are not economic in nature at all
Published: Tuesday, Aug 31, 2010, 2:18 IST
By R Vaidyanathan | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA

It is fashionable for bleeding heart liberals (BHL) to offer unsubstantiated arguments on behalf of the militants of Kashmir Valley. Lumpen liberals like that one book wonder Arundhati Roy (who proudly proclaimed in the US two years ago that she had seceded from India since India was not a democracy) need not bother us here. But when other BHLs talk about hurt aspirations of the people of Kashmir, we need to sit back and wonder what is happening.
Why are Kashmiris hurt? According to the BHLs, the first reason is that polls were often rigged in J&K (not just in K). This argument is specious because in that case the first candidate to secede from India should be Bihar where polls have been rigged from time immemorial. Or Bengal, for that matter. Jyoti Basu could not have lost his Baranagar seat but for rigging by Siddhartha Shankar Ray’s Juba Congress boys. Now, in every poll, the CPM repays that compliment.
The Dalits of western UP can tell horror stories of rigging by Jats till the arrival of AN Seshan and the BSP in that order. But none of these states want to secede from India. The stone-throwers of Kashmir should realise that even though some polls may have been rigged, our general elections are different from those in Pakistan where the generals get always “elected”.
The second grievance is the socio-economic condition of Kashmiris. The government of India has recently constituted yet another committee to suggest ways to improve the state’s economy and employment. However, J&K is near the top in almost all economic parameters. Consider:
The per capita net state domestic product at factor cost (at 1999-2000 prices) was Rs17,590 for J&K in 2007-08, which is higher than that of the Bimaru states (Bihar, UP, MP, etc). It also figures in the top quarter of Indian states (CSO figures). The state received more money from the Centre than anyone else.
In 2008-09, out of a total revenue of Rs19,362 crore, more than 70% came as grant from the Centre. All the Central assistance came as grant, and not loan (state budget documents & RBI), unlike other states.
On the other hand, the urban property tax generated by the state in 2008-2009 was — hold your breath — a measly Rs1 lakh (state budget documents). Despite such poor tax collections, the state is not at the bottom in terms of development indicators.
Among the 1.6 million households in the state, 37% are covered by banking services, 65% have radios or transistors and 41 % possess TV sets — one of the highest in the country. Per capita consumption of electricity, at 759 kwh (2006-2007), is much higher than in UP, MP, Rajasthan, Bihar and West Bengal (Rajya Sabha Question No 2908, April 21, 2008). Some 81% of households get electricity (rural 75 % and urban 98%) and only 15% are dependent on kerosene. This level of electricity usage is highest among states.
Kashmir’s per capita availability of milk (2005-2006), at 353gm per day, is much higher than most of the states with an all-India average of 241gm a day. The per capita spending on health (at Rs363) is much higher than most states, with Tamil Nadu at Rs170, Andhra at Rs146, UP at Rs83 and West Bengal at Rs206 and a national average of Rs167.
The percentage of children under age three who are undernourished on Anthropometric Indices (stunted, wasted or underweight) is lower for J&K than many other states: 28 for stunted (too short for age), 15 for wasted (too thin for height) and 29.4 for underweight (too thin for age) against the national averages of 38, 19 and 46 respectively.
It goes on. Any socio-economic indicator one looks at one finds that the state is in the top quartile or among the top 10 percentile. If Jammu feels neglected, it could only be because the people there don’t know how to blackmail the country. They are foolish enough to carry the national flag in their agitations!
The Valley is imitating Pakistan on two counts. Pakistan begs globally by threatening to self-destruct even while the elites of Pakistan send their children to study abroad and the poor Abduls and Kasabs are made to die for the cause. The same hypocrisy is practiced in the Valley by its leaders.The stone-throwing youngsters shouting azadi on the streets of Kashmir should ask themselves whether they would like to be a part of India that is democratic and becoming a world power or want to be ruled by the ISI of Pakistan. If it is the later, the road to Muzzafarabad can be opened for those willing to leave their land of honey and milk! As far as India is concerned, it should hold an all-India referendum about the timing to scrap Article 370. That is the only referendum we should think of.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 19:07

R Vaidya wrote:As far as India is concerned, it should hold an all-India referendum about the timing to scrap Article 370. That is the only referendum we should think of.

R. Vaidya, as usual, another excellent article. The UN Resolution, Nehru's assurance etc. were all in a particular context whose validity has been overwhelmed beyond recognition by events engendered by Pakistan and its stooges in the Valley. Assimilation of the J&K under our administration and staking the claim for the portions occupied by Pakistan and China must be the next steps.

Please post your article also in the J&K thread also, if not done already.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 01 Sep 2010 19:30

The Lord’s episode another RAW ploy

— Indian ICC Chief working to get Pak team banned for 3 to5 years
— Pak govt smell rat behind the match fixing drama
— Bookie emerges as RAW man, introduced to Indian cricketers by RAW
— Bookie met Pak player in South Africa at a dinner for the first time in 2009
— Aamir like young players were the basic target
— English journalist got 50,000 Pounds to organize fake sting operation for RAW
— Indian High Commission at London played key role in Bookie’s bail.

http://dailymailnews.com/0910/01/FrontPage/index1.php

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 01 Sep 2010 19:49

3 blasts, 6 dead, 50 injured -Express #lahore blasts at yaum-e-ali procession

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Sep 2010 19:52

SSridhar wrote:
Bhima wrote:Nick Clegg warns Pakistan will need aid for years to come
What's new ? Hasn't it been happening since 1950 ? If there is one country that has not endured pain to achieve freedom from colonialists or grow by itself, then that is Pakistan and Pakistan only.

Hope that MMS and the GOI put a cork in it as far as the donations are concerned lest we be accused of aiding a terrorist state.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 19:55

chetak wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Nick Clegg warns Pakistan will need aid for years to come
What's new ? Hasn't it been happening since 1950 ? If there is one country that has not endured pain to achieve freedom from colonialists or grow by itself, then that is Pakistan and Pakistan only.

Hope that MMS and the GOI put a cork in it as far as the donations are concerned lest we be accused of aiding a terrorist state.

Pakistanis have been asking for "machinery" and this aid is just what they need.

Spades and wheelbarrows.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 19:56

shravan wrote:3 blasts, 6 dead, 50 injured -Express #lahore blasts at yaum-e-ali procession

Arre? Not even Fridin?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 01 Sep 2010 20:00

shiv wrote:
Arre? Not even Fridin?

Shia procession

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 20:18

shravan wrote:
shiv wrote:
Arre? Not even Fridin?
Shia procession

Ah. An emergency then.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 01 Sep 2010 20:27

Juicy target of opportunity for the rakkit mards. Good to see that the martial spirit is still high in the land of pure.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 01 Sep 2010 20:32

Express 24/7 reports aerial firing by police to scatter protesters. However, shots were fired back from the angered mob prompting a gun battle in the streets.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 01 Sep 2010 20:44

shravan wrote:Express 24/7 reports aerial firing by police to scatter protesters. However, shots were fired back from the angered mob prompting a gun battle in the streets.

Ah! The benefits of the Kalashnikov culture.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Sep 2010 20:45

Pakistan's political future questioned after the flood

article basically questions whether TSPA will take over or not.

"The stock of the government, which was not very high to begin with, has fallen pretty low. Fewer and fewer people are taking Zardari seriously,"

The Army's profile is going up," Amir continues. "Its PR is going up. When Kayani undertakes a visit, it's much better choreographed, and that creates an impression that the Army is really much more efficient, although we have no tabulated figures on the relief effort taken by the Army or the impact on the overall situation."
He doesn't think the Army would step in. "I think they are pretty happy and pretty comfortable seeing the civilian process bleed like this," he says.

And Kayani, regarded as a consummate professional, probably knows "what the limitations in any misadventure may be," and the international approbation Pakistan could face, particularly from Europe, if the democratically elected civilian government were thrown out.

As evidence he cites Pakistan's ever-growing defense budget and the widely held view that the nation's defense and foreign policy come under the purview of the Army. "When they can get the same results behind the scenes," he says, "why come on the scene?"

Dus percenti can safely take some cuts from the aid till election time.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Sep 2010 20:50

EU sends heaviest ever aid airlift to Pakistan
total of 3 cargo planes -- 2 An 124 and a C-17 globemaster planes will lift a total of 240 tons of aid supplies to pakistan.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Sep 2010 20:52

IFAW launches emergency feed program in Pakistan

Not only humans but animal livestocks have also been helped.

The International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW, http://www.ifaw.org) announced the start of a relief program that will feed thousands of animals impacted by the record-breaking floods that have devastated Pakistan. IFAW has partnered with the local humanitarian group Ravi Foundation already active in the province of Punjab.
According to the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) some 200,000 cows, sheep, buffalo, goats and donkeys have already been lost and millions more have been affected.

arindam · Post by **arindam** » 01 Sep 2010 20:53

Another day.. another blast...

6 killed, 88 injured in Lahore serial blasts: Official

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 21:00

Dilbu wrote:Juicy target of opportunity for the rakkit mards. Good to see that the martial spirit is still high in the land of pure.

And when the widows come marchin' in - the marital spirit should take over - hain? The 1:8 ratio.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 01 Sep 2010 21:02

If I make a suggestion for Paks: try 'help cricket team corrupt send money'.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 01 Sep 2010 21:18

This lawhore blast is disappointing. They should consider changing suppliers. In the case of Pakbaric animalistan, the going wisdom is that 20% of the population has declared the other 80% to be 'impure' and hence okay to murder. Which means each pure should go with at least 5 impure and possibly more if you consider some pure are not able to fulfill their religious obligation and kill the impure because of old age, toddlers etc...

ManuT · Post by **ManuT** » 01 Sep 2010 21:23

Fake relief camp: govt, Unicef officials blaming each other

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -190-rs-06

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Sep 2010 21:27

Death toll in Pakistan blasts hits 18
Just like the floods, slow increase to 18 with over 100 injured.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Sep 2010 21:30

Pakistan's Worst Ever Floods May Stoke Inflation Rate to 20%, Gilani Says

Rising prices may put pressure on Pakistan’s central bank to boost its benchmark interest rate, already one of the highest in the world. Higher borrowing costs may impede investments and undermine economic growth, which Gilani estimated at 2.5 percent in the current financial year, 2 percentage points less than the government’s target.

Pakistan will harvest 4.4 million metric tons of rice in the marketing year that starts Nov. 1, down 35 percent from the previous year, according to a report by a unit of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

The Food and Agriculture Organization has called for funds to replace half a million tons of wheat seed stocks destroyed by the floods, with planting of the staple due to take place over the next three months.

Gilani today said the natural disaster has destroyed 4,000 kilometers of roads and 1,000 bridges, pushing up the cost of delivering goods and services. He estimated the inflation rate to climb to between 15 percent and 20 percent.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 01 Sep 2010 21:31

arindam wrote:Another day.. another blast...

6 killed, 88 injured in Lahore serial blasts: Official

My heart goes out to the poor Shias. They have to put up with such monstrosities and barbarity of terrorists who enjoy the protection of the Terrorist Pakistani Army. May Allah be kind to them and crush this country of Pakistan.

Ameen

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Sep 2010 21:36

From rediff.com on the lahore serial blasts today.
Serial blasts hit Shia procession in Lahore

The two blasts near Karbala Gamay Shah triggered a stampede among members of the Shia procession that injured several persons. Many members of the procession attacked policemen, saying they had failed to provide adequate protection to the gathering.

The procession was making its way from the old quarters of Lahore to Karbala Gamay Shah to mark Hazrat Ali's death anniversary when the first two blasts occurred. The third explosion went off as rescue workers were rushing the injured to hospital.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Sep 2010 21:36

State Department designates Pakistani Taliban as a "foreign terrorist organization"

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday designated Pakistan's largest Taliban umbrella group Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) as an official "foreign terrorist organization."

Because U.S. law requires that an organization pose a direct threat to the United States in order to be listed, the TTP's claim of involvement in the Times Square bombing attempt was significant. Now, the U.S. government can prosecute anyone giving "material aid" to the TTP, and the government can freeze the group's assets in the United States.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Sep 2010 21:37

While the real Taliban are a partner of choice!