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Hezbollah delegation met with Saudi ambassador to Lebanon on Wednesday.

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The Obama administration is about to propose the sale of more than $60 billion worth of advanced weapons to Saudi Arabia. Apart from providing an obvious boost to the U.S. defense industry, the clear purpose here is to send a message to Iran. As an unnamed U.S. official stated a few days ago, "We want Iran to understand that its nuclear program is not getting them leverage over their neighbors, that they are not getting an advantage. . . We want the Iranians to know that every time they think they will gain, they will actually lose." In short, the sale is "mainly intended as a building block for Middle East regional defenses to box in Iran."

I get all that, although it seems like an awful lot of weaponry to "contain" a country whose entire defense budget, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies, is only $10 billion.

But my real question is this: if our primary goal is to discourage Iran from developing nuclear weapons, then might this new initiative be counter-productive? Doesn't it just give Iran an even bigger incentive to get a nuclear deterrent of its own? Think about it: if you had a bad relationship with the world's most powerful country, if you knew (or just suspected) that it was still backing anti-government forces in your country, if its president kept telling people that "all options were still on the table," and if that same powerful country were now about to sell billions of dollars of weapons to your neighbors, wouldn't you think seriously about obtaining some way to enhance your own security? And that's hard to do with purely conventional means, because your economy is a lot smaller and is already constrained by economic sanctions. Hmmm....so what are your other options?

Of course, it's possible that Iran's leaders have already made that decision, and if so then these moves won't have much effect on their calculations. And I'm all for maintaining a favorable balance of power in the Gulf. But if we are still hoping to convince Iran that it would be better off without some sort of nuclear weapons capability (even if only of a "latent" sort), this move strikes me as a step in the wrong direction.
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Iraqi official points a finger at Saudi Arabia in the smuggling of weapons. He even accused Saudi Arabia of assisting the terrorists.

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And the GCC ask again, do the Israeli's want peace?

Scramble to save Mideast talks as settlement freeze ends
Last-ditch negotiations continued well into the early hours of Monday morning as Israeli, Palestinian and American leaders attempted to save Middle East peace talks from an early collapse.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke twice by telephone with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as West Bank settlers prepared restarted construction after a 10-month Israeli moratorium expired on Sunday.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has repeatedly vowed to walk out of talks, which began a month ago in Washington, if building resumes. But Netanyahu remains hopeful of keeping the peace process alive.

"Israel is ready to retain continual contacts [with the Palestinians] over the coming days to find a way to advance peace negotiations," Netanyahu said.

The prime minister, who has faced heavy pressure Likud party colleagues and right-wing coalition partners to end the freeze, which covered the entire West Bank excluding East Jerusalem, also spoke with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah II, assuring them that he was striving to maintain the talks.

"I call on President Abbas to continue the frank and fruitful dialogue that has only just begun, with the goal of reaching an historic peace agreement between our nations," Netanyahu said in a statement late Sunday.

"I hope that President Abbas will remain in the talks and continue with me on the path of peace, on which we set out two weeks ago, with many across the world now convinced that my intention to secure peace is serious and honest and that I honor my obligations."

Barring last-minute delays, construction will begin on Monday morning on a few dozen housing units whose owners have waited patiently for an end to the freeze.

Building is expected to begin on Tuesday at a number of sites including Shavei Shomron, Adam, Oranit, Sha'arei Tikva, Yakir, Revava, Kokhav Hashahar, Kedumim and Karmei Tzur. A cornerstone is to be laid for a new neighborhood in the southern West Bank settlement of Beit Hagai, with construction set to start soon.

After this week's Sukkot holiday, the Yesha Council of settlements and local West Bank councils are expected to begin pressuring Netanyahu to approving new construction.

The number of housing units put up in the West Bank during the Netanyahu government is the lowest under any prime minister since the first Rabin government in the mid-1970s.
Hahhaa Netanyahu asks Abbas to continue talks despite Abbas categorically saying if the freeze ends then the PA will walk out of talks. Netanyahu is obviously doing this on purpose, its so obvious. Israel is not interested in peace. Funny thing is the PA collaborated on a recent arrest of a big commander terrorist in WB.
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Charlie Rose Interview wih Ahmadinejad Sept 20th 2010
I think he kicked Charlie Rose's ass in a few issues.

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India to coordinate with Saudi efforts in executing amnesty plan

Ravi welcomes Kuwait decision to scrap sponsorship system

Senior Saudi and Indian officials to meet to review progress on 'Riyadh Declaration'
Senior Saudi and Indian officials will hold a meeting here on Tuesday to resolve the controversy surrounding the recent imposition of anti-dumping duties by India on the imports of polypropylene.

"The anti-dumping issue will be on the agenda besides many other topics of common interest for the two strategic partners," said Saudi Ambassador to India Faisal H. Trad speaking by phone from New Delhi. "I am confident that this anti-dumping issue will be solved once and for all in near future."

The two-day meeting, he said, will be a follow-up panel's meeting that will review the agenda of the Joint Economic Commission and also review the progress made on bilateral subjects contained in the landmark Riyadh Declaration that was endorsed by Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Feb. 28.
India-Saudi relations will continue to blossom: Envoy
2010-09-24 18:00:00

New Delhi, Sep 24 (IANS) Saudi Arabia's envoy to India Faisal Bin Hassan Trad hopes that the bilateral relations between the two nations 'will continue to blossom' with high-level exchange of visits in near future.

Speaking to IANS on the sidelines of the Saudi National Day celebrations here Thursday evening, he said more Indian Muslims will be allowed to perform Haj pilgrimage this year than the last.

'The excellent bilateral relations between India and Saudi Arabia will continue to blossom. There will be an exchange of very high level delegations between the two countries in the near future,' Trad said.

The Saudi embassy in New Delhi had arranged a get-together to celebrate the 80th anniversary of Saudi Arabia's National Day. Minister of State for External Affairs Preneet Kaur was a special guest at the reception at the Taj Palace hotel. Minority Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid and MoS Railways E. Ahamed also attended the event.

Trad commended the 'longstanding cordial ties' between the two countries which, he said, are 'based on the brotherhood, understanding and mutual respect among leaders and people'.

The envoy said the India-Saudi relations had a long history that goes back to early times. 'People to people contact between the Indians and Arabs is very old. For centuries they have been in contact for trade, culture and other exchanges,' he said.

He said that there had been a 'remarkable' upswing in the volume of trade between the two countries.

Bilateral trade has grown to $28 billion as Saudi Arabia is one of the major suppliers of crude oil to India.

On the November Haj pilgrimage to Makkah and Medina, the two holy cities in Saudi, Trad said that his country would give visas to as many Indian Muslims as possible.

'Whatever our Indian friends come to us and say this is our number (of Haj pilgrims), they will get it. In fact, this year there was an increase. It is 170,000. So it is indeed an increase than last year,' he said.

Saudi Arabia's National Day dates back to 1932 when the kingdom's founder, the late King Abdul Aziz Abdul Rahman Al-Saud united the country ending a long-time dispute among various tribes and entities.

The ceremony began with the national anthems of the two countries being played out.

Trad, clad in a thawb - an ankle length gown and a keffiyeh - a large checkered square scarf held over head by a cord coil, later met the dignitaries and offered them dates before a lavish dinner.

Heads of various foreign missions in New Delhi were also present.
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Quick news: Apparently British Defence Sec met with King A of KSA on the 25th Sept. New Eurofighter deal is highly likely.
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Analysis of the mega US-Saudi defence deal,"deal of the century".

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp ... z4xDVYTk7T

Xcpt:Lengthy article.
Gulf arms buying: old wine in new bottles
By Michael Glackin

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Head for the caves. It appears that an “unprecedented arms race” is under way in the Middle East as oil-rich Gulf states embark on what The Financial Times has called “one of the largest re-armament exercises in peacetime history.” Apparently, Gulf states, alarmed by Iran’s nuclear ambitions, are stumping up more than $120 billion over the next four years in a move that will also “generate fear in Israel.”

The catalyst for the doom laden headlines was the news that the United States is selling $67 billion worth of aircraft and military hardware to Saudi Arabia. In what is the largest US arms sale of its kind, Saudi Arabia has agreed to pay $30 billion up front for fighter jets and helicopters, with the balance following at an undisclosed date. Meanwhile the United Arab Emirates is set to splash out $35 billion on mainly US made military hardware, closely followed by Oman, which is poised to spend $12 billion and Kuwait which is spending $7 billion.

Back in 1975, the late US senator, Edward Kennedy, warned of a “major arms race in the Persian Gulf,” and called for a moratorium on US military sales to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel. At that time those three nations accounted for more than 75 percent of America’s total arms sales of $8 billion. Washington was accused of trying to buy influence with Iran and Saudi Arabia to combat the sharp increase in oil prices as OPEC’s Arab members used the “oil weapon” in the aftermath of October War, precipitating the mid-70s energy crisis in the West.

There was also a sharp increase in Middle East arms sales in 1991, in the wake of the first Gulf War and periodic arms build ups ever since.

Why is this arms race any different?
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Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp ... z4xDKm3y19
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Kuwait Minister meets Manmohan Singh
2010-09-28 14:00:00

Kuwaiti Oil and Information Minister Shaikh Ahmad Abdullah Al-Ahmad Al-Sabah met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh here today.

He is also expected to meet his Indian counterpart, Murli Deora.

Al Sabah, who is on a state visit to India, said on Monday that Kuwait was interested in acquiring a strategic stake in state-run Indian Oil Corporation (IOC), subject to economic feasibility.

On September 6, India's Oil Secretary S. Sundareshan had said that the Indian government planned to sell a 10 percent stake in the IOC, the country's biggest state-run refiner.

The Minister also said that crude oil prices were likely to be between 75 dollars and 80 dollars per barrel in the first quarter of 2011.

The Gulf country is third-largest crude supplier, selling about nine million tonnes of oil a year to India. (ANI)
Kuwait keen on IOC stake
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Evincing interest

New Delhi, Sept. 27: Kuwait Petroleum Corporation is keen to pick up a stake in Indian Oil Corporation (IOC) if the government decides to divest a part of its holding to a strategic investor.

“The government is divesting some of its shares, may be offering a certain percentage to a strategic investor. We are interested in such a proposal, subject to feasibility studies and economics of the offer,” Kuwait’s oil minister Sheikh Ahmad al-Abdullah al-Sabah said after a meeting with the IOC management here today.

Indian Oil plans to issue fresh shares amounting to 10 per cent of its equity through a follow-on offer. The government, which owns 78.92 per cent in the PSU, will separately sell 10 per cent of its stake. Al-Sabah insisted that the possibility of Kuwait Petroleum Corporation — of which he is the chairman — or the Kuwait Investment Authority buying into IOC arose only if the government agreed to give them a strategic stake.

He said Kuwait had discussed with IOC the possibility of increasing long-term crude supplies to the company, which accounted for 28 per cent of the country’s refining capacity of 3.76 million barrels a day.

Kuwait supplies nine million tonnes of crude per year to IOC, chairman B.M. Bansal said. The company’s requirement will rise after it commissions the 300,000-barrel-a-day refinery and petrochemical complex at Paradip in Orissa in 2011-12.

The visiting minister discussed Kuwait Petroleum Corporation’s participation in the Rs 29,777-crore project.

Besides discussing long-term contracts for crude to India, al-Sabah deliberated on the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec) using the crude storage facilities being built in Mangalore and Visakhapatnam. He said Kuwait was worried about Opec members actually complying with their production quotas and would discuss the matter at the group’s meeting in Vienna on October 14.

The 12-member cartel is unlikely to change production quotas as current oil prices are “comfortable”, he said.
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Yemeni Consulate Possible: Ausaf
Ausaf Sayeed, the newly-appointed Indian Ambassador to Islamic Republic of Yemen, says he will work towards setting up a Yemeni Consulate in Hyderabad.

15th Sep, 2010: Newly-appointed Indian Ambassador to the Islamic Republic of Yemen, Ausaf Sayeed, stated on Tuesday that he would talk to the Yemeni authorities on the establishment of a Yemeni Consulate in Hyderabad.

Ausaf said he would use his position as an Ambassador to press for the Consulate with the Yemeni authorities. He said he would assume charge of his new post as an Ambassador to Yemen on September 19th.

The Ambassador also expressed his determination to work for the upgrading of economic commercial and cultural ties between the 2 countries.

Addressing a felicitation program organised by the Urdu weekly Gawah at Grand Plaza Nampally, Ausaf revealed that his ancestors, too, hailed from Yemen.

Ausaf said that he hailed from the regal family of a famous Yemeni tribe. He stated that though he felt that his ancestors belonged to Yemen, he had no contact with the family of his ancestors. But now the new assignment provided him an opportunity to trace his origin, he said.

The Ambassador stated that he had held negotiations with the Yemeni authorities on the establishment of a Consulate at Hyderabad, and that the authorities had assured him to give it a positive consideration.

Currently, there is a Yemeni Embassy in New Delhi, and a Consulate in Mumbai.

Mentioning his priorities, Ausaf said that he would take an initiative towards the Yemeni President's visit to India and the Indian President's visit to Yemen, in order to strengthen ties between the 2 countries.

Ausaf said that there were 2 million NRIs in Yemen, and that more than 1 lakh Yemenis were settled in India, the majority of whom consisted of Hyderabadis.

Referring to his latest meeting with the President Pratibha Patil, Ausaf said that when the President instructed him to improve relations between the two countries, he assured that he would take all possible initiatives in this regard.

Referring to Indo-Yemen relations, Ausaaf said that the ties between the two countries dated back to the British era of 1836, and that trade with Yemen is worth 2 billion American dollars.

The Ambassador said that there were vast oil and gas reserves in Yemen. According to an estimate, Yemen had 4 billion barrels gas reserves, as the country produces 3.10 lakhs barrel gas daily. He said that Yemen has 17 trillion cubic feet of gas reserves.

Yemen had allotted 11 oil blocks to the foreign companies, out of which 7 blocks were offered to Indian companies. He said that scholarships are being awarded to Yemeni students studying in different educational courses under Indian Cultural Counsel relations and the Indian Technical Education Programme.

Additional Director General of Police Syed Anwarul Huda, recalled the services renderred by Ausaf Sayeed as Consulate General in Saudi Arabia. The Secretary of the Federation of AP Minority Educational Institutions, Zafar Javed, hoped that Ausaf Sayeed would attain new heights in future and would get installed as the Secretary for foreign affairs. On the occasion, Habeeb Al Abdur Rahman Al Attas, Ghiasuddin Babu Khan, Nagarjuna Fertilizers Director P P Singh, Mohammed Bin Saleh al Quiti and others also spoke.
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Israel is not interested in peace
Isn't this is a bit too harsh ji?

Israel may not be interested in peace on the terms of the Religion of Peace
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Mahendra wrote: Isn't this is a bit too harsh ji?

Israel may not be interested in peace on the terms of the Religion of Peace
All they had to do is announce a settlement freeze and extend the current moratorium during the peace talks. They couldn't do that. They knew the price of peace was to extend the moratorium. But the Israeli's did say if the US releases Jonathan Pollard, one of the most notorious spies in the US history, they would extend the freeze. LOL

So basically Israel is saying, we will encroach further into Palestinian land, while at the same time talk peace? How does that work? It also goes to confirm that Israel doesn't recognize the 2 state solution and the Palestinian identity. The PA has given a lot, it is now in total collaboration with Israeli security forces in Gaza and in the West Bank on anti terror operations. As usual its the Palestinians who give everything. What do they get in return? More encroachment because the West Bank is part of the historical Israel, yeah Aborigines used to own the whole of Australia, lets give them a nation too.
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yeah Aborigines used to own the whole of Australia, lets give them a nation too.
I totally agree with you on that
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shyamd wrote:More encroachment because the West Bank is part of the historical Israel, yeah Aborigines used to own the whole of Australia, lets give them a nation too.
It is not so much a question of giving a nation, as much as one of taking a nation. Israelis have the power to take their historical lands back, so they are taking. Aborigines don't have the power, so they can carry on with smoking their pipes. There is a lot more common between the Palestinians and the Aborigines.
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RajeshA wrote: It is not so much a question of giving a nation, as much as one of taking a nation. Israelis have the power to take their historical lands back, so they are taking.
Wasn't there an agreement in the 40's which stated that no nation can be created or land be taken over?
Aborigines don't have the power, so they can carry on with smoking their pipes. There is a lot more common between the Palestinians and the Aborigines.
And if China started giving arms & funding and support a UN resolution for the state of Aboriginistan or whatever in Australia? Same goes for Red Indians in the US, Canada. How many nations can be created?

The west was so disgusted when Mugabe took land from white farmers and gave it to local black people. But yet, they remain quiet when the Israeli's are building settlements outside of the recognised borders of Israel.
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Too much of weighing in of what is just and unjust in Israel-Palestine equation, isn't going to get the Indians anything. I don't have a horse in the race. From Israel we get military hardware and security consultancy, from Palestine we get to score some brownie points in the Muslim world. So, I love both. Having said that they are welcome to bang their heads if they so desire.
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^^ which is exactly what our position is and should be. We should continue to maintain strong relations with Israel.
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ONGC offers Kuwaiti's KPC stake in Gujarat project
Press Trust of India / New Delhi September 28, 2010, 17:34 IST

Oil and Natural Gas Corp (ONGC) today offered Kuwaiti national oil firm a stake in its Rs 19,500 crore mega petrochemical project in Gujarat, even as the oil-rich Gulf nation expressed a desire to bid with Indian firm in the forthcoming round of NELP.

"We discussed strategic partnership of Kuwait Petroleum Corp (KPC) in ONGC Petro-additions Ltd (OPaL)," ONGC Chairman and Managing Director R S Sharma said after delegation level talks between visiting Kuwaiti Oil Minister Sheikh Ahmad al-Abdullah al-Sabah and Petroleums Minister Murli Deora.

ONGC has 26 per cent stake in OPaL, gas utility GAIL 19 per cent and Gujarat State Petroleum Corp (GPSC) 5 per cent. The rest 50 per cent is to be made up of strategic investor and financial institutions who are yet to be decided. The project is being targeted for completion in early 2013.

KPC's participation in ONGC Mangalore Petrochemicals Ltd,(OMPL)the firm building a Rs 5,750 crore aromatic complex within Mangalore SEZ by end of 2012 was also discussed.

ONGC has 46 per cent stake in OMPL and its subsidiary Mangalore Refinery another 3 per cent while the rest 51 per cent is yet to be tied-up.

Al-Sabah said Kuwaiti participation in the projects would depend on due diligence and feasibility of the projects.

On its part, Kuwait Foreign Petroleum Exporation Co(Kufpec), a subsidiary of KPC, evinced interest in partnering ONGC in bidding for blocks to be offered for exploration of oil and gas in the 9th round of New Exploration Licensing Policy, likely to be launched on October 15.

"We are joining our friends (ONGC) for NELP bidding," Kufpec Deputy Managing Director Ali D Al-Shammari said.

Also discussed during the talks was Indian companies' interest of setting up a fertiliser plant in Kuwait possibly in joint venture with Petrochemicals Industries Company (PIC) and KPC.

GAIL's interest in setting up a gas-based petrochemical and gas processing plants in Kuwait and Bharat Petroleum Corp Ltd's interest in marketing of lubricants and base oil in the Gulf nation was discussed.

Al-Sabah however made no commitments saying the proposals would be discussed by technical people.

Deora said India imports 11.8 million tonnes of crude oil annually from Kuwait and is looking at increasing the volumes if supplies are made on long term contract.

Kuwait said it will consider raising long-term crude supplies to India if its own vessels are used for such supplies.

"India should look into using our ships in taking oil from Kuwait," Al-Sabah said.

On India offer for allowing Kuwait to store its crude oil in strategic stockpile being built at Mangalore and Vizag, he said "we will consider that subject to certain conditions."


He refused to elaborate on the conditions.
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Abu Dhabi business mission to explore opportunities in India

India, UAE discuss human rights issues
2010-09-28 19:40:00

Dubai, Sep 28 (IANS/WAM) Top officials from India and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) met here Tuesday and discussed human rights issues affecting the Indian community in the region.

Indian Ambassador M.K. Lokesh visited the headquarters of the Emirates Human Rights Association (EHRA) here and met with its general secretary, Mohammed Hussein Al Hammadi.

The two officials discussed possibilities of cooperation between the Emirates and India to better serve the Indian community in the region and on raising awareness on human rights issue
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Saudi Embassy in India to have new building soon
By GHAZANFAR ALI KHAN | ARAB NEWS

Published: Sep 29, 2010 00:59 Updated: Sep 29, 2010 00:59

RIYADH: Saudi Ambassador to India Faisal H. Trad has said the Kingdom will have its own building to house the embassy in New Delhi in about two years.

Speaking to Arab News by phone on Sunday, Trad said the building would be located in the posh Chanakyapuri area of the Indian capital.

The embassy, Trad said, has contracted an Indian company to construct the new chancery within next 28 months from now.

“I hope it will be landmark building and add to the beauty and profile of the place,” he added.

On the cultural front, he said that a goodwill mission of Indian women will visit Saudi Arabia next month. The group will be composed of seven women belonging to different professions like journalism, law, business and social work.

“I want them to have a better understanding of the role of women in Saudi society, which is increasing rapidly, locally as well as globally,” he added.

He said he was also working on a major youth exchange project as part of the cultural cooperation between the two countries. This will pave the way for the exchange of visits of Saudi and Indian youth delegations, which will go a long way in promoting friendship and understanding, he observed.

Saudi Arabia is home to over two million Indian workers, who represent roughly 25 percent of the total expatriate work force in the country.
Saudi Arabia to halt Indian worker abuse
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* Last Updated: September 29. 2010 12:51AM UAE / September 28. 2010 8:51PM GMT

South Asian labourers work outside Riyadh. Many labourers in the kingdom live in small rooms, with five or six people sharing a kitchen and bathroom. They generally work 10-hour days for two years without vacation for a salary of about Dh1,500 a month. Hassan Ammar / AFP

RIYADH // Labour issues were high on the agenda of a top-level Indian delegation during its recent visit to Saudi Arabia, where officials have just announced a six-month amnesty permitting illegal foreigners to leave the kingdom without penalties.

The Indian minister for overseas affairs, Vaayalar Ravi, was pleased with his discussions with Saudi officials, according to the Indian ambassador, Talmiz Ahmed, who said the Saudis promised increased enforcement of their labour laws to ease difficulties faced by an estimated 1.8 million Indians working here.

“The minister returned [home] with great happiness,” Mr Ahmed said, adding that his visit was part of “an ongoing interaction we have at the ministerial level”.

Mr Ravi’s visit reflects the renewed attention by both countries to their bilateral ties, which got a huge boost in February when Manmohan Singh made a three-day visit here, the first by an Indian prime minister in 28 years. Indira Gandhi visited in 1982.
Mr Singh, who was reciprocating King Abdullah’s 2006 visit to India, said his trip “reflects the strong mutual desire of both countries to reinvigorate our relations”.

This mutual desire arises largely from geo-strategic concerns, said Theodore Karasik, director of research and development for the Dubai-based think tank Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis (Inegma).

There are different hot spots that they would like to coordinate on, including Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan,” he said. And “as we move into 2011, when there might be big changes in South Asia,” he added, it is in the interest of both countries to have enhanced relations.

Saudi Arabia’s “move to the East”, exemplified in its greater attention to both India and China, is meant “to make Saudi foreign policy more dynamic”, Mr Karasik said.
A by-product of closer Saudi-Indian ties could be better working conditions for Indian expatriates in the kingdom, Mr Karasik added.

Mr Ahmed said that in bilateral talks, Mr Ravi briefed the Saudis on a new Indian government programme to computerise and make accessible through Indian embassies in the Gulf all the details about each Indian worker in every Gulf country.

Called E-Migration, the programme will be tested first in the UAE starting in about a month, and then spread to other Gulf countries, Mr Ahmed said.

Mr Ravi, who met the vice governor of Riyadh, Prince Sattam, and the deputy minister of labour, Abdulwaheed al Humaid, also raised the problem of Saudi sponsors who falsely inform the government that their foreign labourer has absconded to get a new visa to bring another worker into the country. This abuse, called haroob, is harmful to the labourer because he then winds up having illegal status.

“Our workers complain that sometimes an employer is dissatisfied and rather than send his employee back to India, he declares that he has escaped,” Mr Ahmed said. “The Saudi government is familiar with the problem and they told us that if a worker is declared missing now, the employer will not be issued a new visa automatically.
[Instead, officials] will look into these matters in greater detail … So we were quite satisfied with that.”

As for the six-month amnesty announced on September 21, Mr Ahmed said his government is still waiting for “clarifications” on how it would work and most importantly, whether it would apply to expatriate workers, as well as to those who have overstayed visas given for pilgrimage to Mecca.

Mr Ahmed said Indians working illegally in the kingdom “would not be more than 30,000 to 40,000”.

“So far, they have not set out details of any scheme, so we have to see the small print of how they intend to handle this,” Mr Ahmed said of the announced amnesty. One of the main questions his government has, he said, is whether an illegal worker who comes forward can get his status adjusted and remain here working.

When the UAE offered an amnesty for illegal workers in 2007, about 100,000 Indians returned home and a further 40,000 were permitted to regularise their job status and stay working, Mr Ahmed said.

The embassies of other countries with large expatriate populations in the kingdom also said they were waiting for details of the programme. “We haven’t heard a word from the Saudi authorities yet,” said Paulo Saret, a vice consul at the Philippine Embassy in Riyadh. “We want to know the parameters of it before we disseminate any information to our nationals.”

A spokesman for the interior ministry, which is responsible for passports and visas, said he would try to get details of the programme for The National, but had not called back by yesterday afternoon.

Although efforts are being made by the Saudi government to correct some abuses, critics say the fundamental problem is kafala, the sponsorship system.

This system, which is widespread in the Gulf region, makes foreign workers vulnerable to abuse because it deprives them of their autonomy: they must surrender their passports to their sponsors, who also must give permission for the worker to change jobs or leave the country.

Bahrain abandoned its sponsorship system last year and on Sunday Kuwait announced that it would follow suit beginning in February.
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Freezone Sohar seeks business ties with India's Gujarat state
Oman Daily Observer

30 September 2010
MUSCAT -- Opportunities abound for mutually beneficial partnerships between the newly unveiled free zone at Sohar and the rapidly industrialising Gujarat State on India's west coast, according to a top executive of Freezone Sohar LLC.

Jamal T Aziz (pictured), Chief Executive Officer of Freezone Sohar, said he gauged strong synergies between Freezone Sohar and Gujarat that could be exploited for either country's economic benefit. He made the comments at an Investor Meet hosted by the Indian Embassy on behalf of a visiting delegation from Gujarat, at InterContinental Muscat yesterday.

"We have always felt there are a lot of synergies that can be exploited between Sohar and Gujarat," Jamal said, citing geographical proximity and the longstanding business links between Oman and the west Indian state.

The CEO mooted the idea of linkages between Freezone Sohar and Gujarat wherein products made in one place could be value added or further processed in the other, depending upon the target market of the finished goods. Thus, for example, goods targeted at the Gulf and Middle East could be produced in Gujarat and value added at facilities in Sohar. Conversely, products destined for the Indian sub-continent could be manufactured at facilities in Freezone Sohar and value added in Gujarat, he explained.

"In a sense, Sohar can serve as an extension of Gujarat, while Gujarat serves as an extension of Sohar, depending upon which market is being targeted," Jamal, who has visited Gujarat on several occasions, stated.

In this regard, he cited the example of India's engineering conglomerate Larsen & Toubro (L&T) which operates fabrication facilities both at Sohar and Gujarat.

L&T undertakes some fabrication jobs at its facilities in Sohar, which are then shipped to Gujarat for completion. "This is the kind of synergy, I believe, is worth exploring with the goal of applying it to other industries as well."

He also underlined prospects for investments in industries downstream to the base projects currently in operation at the nearby Port of Sohar. Opportunities for investments in metals based manufacturing and fabrication ventures are significant in light of the availability of iron ore feedstock from the giant pelletisation plant of Vale under construction of Sohar. Later in comments to the Observer, Jamal said he envisioned good prospects for business linkages between the two sides, not only in manufacturing, but also in logistics, food processing, agro-processing, healthcare, and education services.

He voiced optimism that the imminent promulgation of a new free zone would boost investor interest in Freezone Sohar, particularly from Gujarat-based businesses.

Another factor that would help put a favourable spotlight on the free zone is the presence of India's SKIL Infrastructure Limited as a strategic partner in Freezone Sohar. SKIL's vast network in India and the highly regarded reputation of its top executive, Nikhil Gandhi, bodes well for Freezone Sohar's investment appeal, he noted.

Jamal said a forthcoming investment forum, dubbed 'Vibrant Gujarat' and slated to be held in Gujarat next January, could serve as a good starting point to explore potential partnerships with Indian investors.

"Our interest is to create a synergy between the Sohar and Gujarat. We will certainly look at this event in Gujarat because it could be a good stepping stone for us, at least to get some partnerships reach a certain level of maturity by the time that event happens."

Last week, Sohar Free Zone LLC, which is overseeing the development of the massive scheme, signed a contract with a UAE firm for the development of civil infrastructure and utility services covering a 500-hectare area, representing the first phase of the 4,500-hectare project.

By Conrad Prabhu
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Dubai police chief received death threats from Israel
Tamim received two death threats over the assassination of a Palestinian Hamas leader in Dubai
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* Staff

Published Thursday, September 30, 2010

Dubai police chief Lieutenant General Dhahi Khalfan Tamim (FILE)

Dubai’s police commander Lt General Dahi Khalfan Tamim received two death threats from Israel over the assassination of a Palestinian Hamas leader in the emirate earlier this year, Al Ittihad reported Thursday.

Tamim disclosed that a new suspect believed to be among those involved in the murder of Mahmoud Mabhouh has been arrested in a Western country in the past two days, adding that Dubai is in touch with that country.

Tamim accused Israel’s Mossad of sending him death threats twice, a few days after he revealed the details of Mabhouh’s assassination at Al Bustan Rotana Hotel in Dubai on January 20.

Tamim said the contents of the letter he had received said ‘protect your back if you want to keep your mouth open’. Tamim told the paper that 'Dubai authorities have traced the source of that letter.'

Tamim also disclosed that he received the second death threat indirectly when one of his relatives received a phone call from a retired Mossad agent.

The call came from a retired Mossad agent with Western-Israeli nationality. He asked my relative to advise me to keep silent,” Tamim was quoted in the newspaper.

Tamim revealed a new suspect in the Mabhouh assassination case had been arrested in a Western country but declined to identify the suspect or the country, according to Al Ittihad.

“We are in contact with that country in this respect. The Mabhouh case is not closed yet, it will remain open until all those involved in the assassination are arrested or dead,” Tamim told the daily.
Abu Dhabi boys in particular Sheikh Hazza bin Zayed al Nahyan who was in charge of the investigation as well as Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid need to be given credit here for giving Israel a swift kick in the nuts by utilising the media. Then Sh. Mo asked Tamim to shut up after a while. Because the UAE had delivered enough damage to the Israeli's in the public and diplomatically between western nations too. There are still criminal cases filed by the French govt, and other european govts against the Mossad regarding this case.
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Pollard - "Common Sense and Impudence" Richard Sale
By Richard Sale, author of Clinton’s Secret Wars

The recurring pressure from Israel to repatriate convicted spy Jonathan Pollard is clearly an expression of common sense if Israel wants to recruit any other agents in place. The KGB was always conscientious in extracting its snared spies by one means or another.

If anything smacks of impudence it’s the current Israeli pressure when contrasted with the stormy ocean of pious Israeli government denials when the case first broke.

My own view is that Pollard should never be released.

I was the reporter who broke the story of how the Israeli government was selling the pilfered Pollard material to the Eastern Bloc in return for increased emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union.

I don’t recall the exact date of my story but I believe it was 1987. My sources were senior U.S. serving counterintelligence (CI3) officials. According to them, the Israel-Soviet deal on emigration was made on Cyprus in 1981 and was the brilliantly cunning idea of top Israeli defense official Ariel Sharon. (CI3 officials also told me at that time that Mossad was “full of Soviet moles.”)

The recruitment of Pollard was not an aberration – he became an operative of Israel as early as 1981 when he was working for the U.S. Navy’s Field Operations Intelligence Office. Israel was targeting certain oil fields in southern Russia and Pollard’s task was to gather information on the targeting.

In any case, although Sharon appears to be the initial villain, high level Israeli officials including Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin, Yitzhak Shamir and others knew of Pollard’s existence. Shamir, for example, was very active in peddling the Pollard data to the Soviets.

At the time of his arrest, the Justice Department alleged that Pollard had provided Israel with 1,800 documents or 100,000 pages. The damage Pollard inflicted on U.S. security was enormous. Senior DOD officials told me that Pollard stole from the Navy's Sixth Fleet Ocean Surveillance Information Facility (FOSIF) in Rota, Spain, the daily report, a top-secret document filed every morning at 0800 Zulu time (Greenwich Mean Time) that contained NSA data on events in the Middle East and North Africa during the previous 24 hours. NASA and Navy Intelligence shared the site.

The U.S. Navy’s obsessive focus was on Soviet ballistic missile submarines cruising the Mediterranean whose weapons were aimed at the United States; ships which had to be quickly destroyed in the event of war.

Pollard gave the Israelis the Rota reports for a year, also providing them with the National SIGINT Requirements List, a day-to-day compendium, listed by priority, of NSA collection units around the world that would have included things such as alerts to U.S. bases in a region before an insertion by U.S. Special Forces or a forthcoming bombing mission.

Pollard also plundered the Defense Intelligence Agency's Community On-Line Intelligence System, which was one of the government's first computerized information-retrieval-network systems, called DIAL-COINS, that contained all the intelligence reports filed by Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marine attaches in Israel and elsewhere in the Middle East and North Africa.

Pollard also stole a huge 10-volume manual called Radio Signals Notations or RAISIN, lauded as the bible of signals intelligence that lists how the United States collects signals around the world. This outlined the sites, frequencies, and significant features of Israeli communication spied on by the United States including the U-2 “Senior Stretch” flights from Cyprus, the RC-135 electronic warfare flights, the joint CIA/NSA listening post in the U.S. Embassy in Israel, along with all the known communications links used by the Soviet Union. All of these were compromised by Pollard.

The Pollard thefts had sinister consequences. U.S. agents in the Eastern Bloc or the Soviet Union were rolled up and America’s ability to collect technical intelligence on Soviet designs was shut down or crippled, leaving us blind.

At the time I broke my stories, I did not know former Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger, now deceased. However, friends eventually put us together and I talked with him informally over 30 times about what Sy Hersh, myself and others had written about Pollard. Weinberger could not calmly discuss Pollard but hardened into furious rage each time.

Sy Hersh and I became friends over the story. He had a book coming out about Israel and after I talked about the moles in Mossad, he called me at UPI and began by saying, “Thanks for screwing up my book,” chiding me for ruining one of the book’s exclusives. The book had plenty more of them, and Sy remains for me a gigantic figure in journalism for his integrity and toughness.

To conclude, Pollard should sit where he is until we can, with grace, send his body to Israel for burial.

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I was on the JCS damage assesment board for this matter. Richard Sale is altogether correct in his account of how greatly Pollard and the Israelis hurt us. Ehud Barak was Director of General Staff intelligence during the Pollard operation. While Pollard stabbed the United States in the back, Barak was smiling and smiling in his best "hale fellow well met" manner in dealing with DIA. pl
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I think Abu Dhabi deserves credit when it delivers a kick in the nuts of D Bhai's company. I personally applaud the mossad for using all means at their disposal for ridding this world of another jihadi nutcase. Bravo!
Delivering an odd Al Q no 3.33 isn't quite the same as kicking the company in its nuts.
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UAE paper praises Ayodhya verdict
Indo-Asian News Service
Abu Dhabi, October 01, 2010

Dividing the Ayodhya disputed site among litigants was the only logical way out, said a United Arab Emirates (UAE) newspaper on Friday, commending the judgment by an Indian court. "After six decades, India's judiciary attempted to certify that the country's secular face remains unbroken with a long-awaited ruling on the Babri Masjid-Ram Janmabhoomi dispute," the Gulf News said editorially.

"In attempting to be fair, the three judges - two Hindus and one Muslim - from the Lucknow bench of the Allahabad High Court delivered a three-part verdict which seemed to be inspired by three lines of logic - political, religious and legal.

"And the government pleaded for calm, patience and acceptance of the ruling," it said. "For one of the judges, who retires today, it turned out to be the most important verdict of his life,"

The judges ruled that the entire disputed land in Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh should be divided among the Sunni Waqf Board, Hindus and the Nirmohi Akhara, a Hindu sect.

"A pro-Hindu ruling could have damaged the Congress party's relations with India's Muslims, thus denting their secular image and also their vote bank," the paper said.

"A pro-Muslim verdict would have raised the possibility of communal violence as it would have threatened the Hindu groups at the site with eviction. This in turn would have boosted the prospects of the Bharatiya Janata Party," it said.

The third alternative, or a split, was the only logical option under the circumstances, the paper said.

"India has travelled a long way since that fateful day in 1992 when the Babri Masjid was demolished by Hindu fundamentalists, triggering some of the worst communal riots," it said. "That should never be repeated."
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Mahendra wrote:I think Abu Dhabi deserves credit when it delivers a kick in the nuts of D Bhai's company. I personally applaud the mossad for using all means at their disposal for ridding this world of another jihadi nutcase. Bravo!
Delivering an odd Al Q no 3.33 isn't quite the same as kicking the company in its nuts.
I agree.....i would be more than happy if India ever attempted such a op on foreign soil to bump off a well known enemy of the state. There are anyways tons of them in the ME.
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The House of Saud: rulers of modern Saudi Arabia
By Abeer Allam

Published: September 30 2010 18:01 | Last updated: September 30 2010 18:01

King Abdul-Aziz al-Saud of Saudi Arabia
King Abdul-Aziz al-Saud (reigned 1932-53)


Crumbling mud-brick walls mark the ancestral fortress of the Saudi royal family in Diriyah, north-west of Riyadh. The opulent palaces of the offspring of King Abdul-Aziz bin Abdul-Rahman al-Saud, the founder of the modern kingdom, are dotted around this lush valley.

The contrast between the palaces testifies to the remarkable transformation brought about by the Al Saud family since Saudi Arabia’s birth in 1932. Named after an 18th-century ancestor, the Saudi royal family has crafted an absolute monarchy, ruled by consensus within the family and by its alliance with the clerics. Family members have selected the king from the many sons of Abdul-Aziz, according to seniority.

The current King Abdullah – who is also prime minister – succeeded his brother Fahd in 2005. His brother, Crown Prince Sultan, is deputy prime minister and minister of defence. Another brother, Prince Naif, is second deputy prime minister and minister of the interior. The chain proceeds down the line, with key posts held by the extended family.

King Abdul-Aziz is thought to have had roughly 70 children, with at least 16 sons still alive. They and their offspring form a core of about 200 princes who wield most of the power. But estimates of the total number of princes range anywhere from 7,000 upwards, with most receiving stipends from Saudi oil revenues. Their unchallenged power and lavish lifestyles have stoked criticism outside and inside the kingdom.

The history

King Abdul-Aziz bin Abdul-Rahman al-Saud (who was born in 1876 and died in 1953), led a band of zealous warriors who forged the modern kingdom, with the capture of his ancestral city of Riyadh from a rival family in 1902. The western Hijaz region was taken next, along with the holy cities of Mecca and Medina in 1925. His many – politically astute – marriages helped shape and control his vast kingdom, exploiting tribal loyalties that persist to this day.

But it was his close alliance with the US that helped him ward off threats towards the nascent state. He signed a concession agreement with Standard Oil of California (now Chevron) in 1935. Standard Oil later established a subsidiary in Saudi Arabia called the Arabian American Oil Company (Aramco), now fully owned by the Saudi government.

Abdul-Aziz was succeeded by his eldest son, Saud, in 1953, who reigned until he was ousted by his half-brother Faisal in 1964. King Faisal initiated numerous reforms in the kingdom, introducing universal education and television, that ultimately led to deadly protests by conservative elements. He was assassinated in 1975 by a disgruntled nephew, whose brother had been killed in those protests (the assassin was publicly beheaded in Riyadh’s central square).

King Khalid, who reigned between 1975 and 1982, deployed the country’s massive oil profits in a momentous building spree, while King Fahd (1982-2005), helped reverse Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait and opened his country to western troops.

King Abdullah, who ascended to the throne in 2005, is a popular monarch, widely seen as pushing for gradual social and legal reforms. Yet the current age of most senior figures in government raises questions about the future of the kingdom; King Abdullah is in his 80s, as is Crown Prince Sultan, who spent much of last year on medical leave.

One powerful clan within the royal family is the so-called “Sudairi seven”, brothers by the same mother. King Fahd was the oldest of this group, followed by Crown Prince Sultan, next in the line; his sons include Prince Bandar, formerly a prominent Saudi ambassador to the US.

The next most senior royal, and another member of the Sudairi clan, is Prince Naif, interior minister since 1975 and credited with leading the domestic fight against al-Qaeda. In 2009, Prince Naif was appointed as second deputy prime minister, positioning him de facto as third in the line of succession, although any actual appointment as such awaits a decision by the Allegiance Council, a group of the sons and grandsons of King Abdul-Aziz established by King Abdullah in 2006 to “safeguard” the succession.

The wealth

Saudi Arabia holds 20 per cent of the world’s proven oil reserves, and its oil exports, the world’s largest, prop up its $400bn economy.

Much of this wealth is concentrated in the royal family and the hands of a few other well-positioned families. The royals receive stipends of varying amounts, depending on their position in the bloodline of King Abdul-Aziz.

Nevertheless, King Abdullah has reined in the family’s access to public funds. He stopped summer vacation allowances and free phone services, and instructed the national airline to stop holding business-class seats for the royals, says an expert on the family.

Still, their most important sources of income are commissions on business deals and land grants deeded by various consecutive kings, which are either resold or rented to the government or to private investors, providing a considerable income for many princes.

The members of the royal family tend to keep a low profile with respect to their wealth, hiding it behind the walls of their palaces and majestic villas. Some of King Abdullah’s personal wealth, estimated by Forbes magazine at $19bn, has been lavished on new university endowments and similar public edifices.

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, the king’s nephew, is among the world’s most prominent investors; his Kingdom Holding Company owns stakes in Citigroup, News Corporation and numerous other enterprises. This year, Forbes calculated his personal worth at $19.4bn, the vast bulk of which was earned through his own enterprises.

Prince Bandar, the former ambassador to Washington, is reported to have put one of his mansions in Aspen, Colorado, up for sale for $135m (he also owns Glympton Park in Oxfordshire).

In spite of the king’s efforts, the lines between the state and personal wealth of senior princes have become blurred. In the past, some princes used to borrow from banks and neglect to repay the loans, causing financial problems for the banks and embarrassing other family members, according to a western expert who asked not to be identified. This led to the banks refusing to lend to them.

“The king and the state really are the same – asking how rich the king of Saudi Arabia is a bit like asking how rich parliament is in Britain,” says another expert. “In many respects, Abdullah is quite austere in his spending – and he has done a great deal to curb royal extravagance in recent years.”

What they say

“King Abdullah is the ruler. If he wills it, it will be done.’’ – Prince Talal, April 2009

What others say

“The government is pouring an increasing portion of its wealth into mega infrastructure projects to diversify the oil-dependent economy and ease unemployment pressures in one of the world’s fastest-growing populations.”’ – Roula Khalaf, Financial Times
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From Ram Narayanan:

Geoffrey Kemp is Director of Regional Strategic Programs at the Nixon Center in Washinton, DC. He served in the White House under Ronald Reagan as Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and Senior Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs on the National Security Counci
l.

Kemp sent me a copy of his readable 326-page book, published this year, titled, "The East Moves West: India, China and Asia’s Growing Presence in the Middle East" (Brookings Institution Press).

The book:

"Compares and contrasts Indian and Chinese involvement in the Middle East. He stresses an embedded historical dimension that gives India substantially more familiarity and interest in the region -- India was there first, and it has maintained that head start. Both nations, however, are clearly on the rise and leaving an indelible mark on the Middle East, and that enhanced influence has international raminfications for the United States and throughout the world."

Kemp believes "the United States will remain the dominant military power in the region but will have to share some security responsibilities with the Asians, especially in the Indian Ocean."

I am summarizing below the salient points emerging from Kemp’s book:

**While the need for energy may be the major reason for Asia’s interest in the Middle East, four other factors account for the growing economic, political and cultural ties between the two regions: immigrant labor, non-energy trade and investment, tourism and educational exchange.

**India has been very successful in nurturing good relations with all of the key Middle Eastern countries. India has been able to work closely with the Muslim nations while also developing important military connections with Israel.


**Approximately 4.5 million Indian citizens currently work in the GCC countries, making them the largest expatriate community in the region. Remittances from those workers are an important contribution to the economies of Indian states such as Kerala. Most important, however, the workers are essential to the economic growth and well-being of the Gulf states.

**India’s growing investment in the Gulf parallels its improved relations with the United States, the Gulf’s current guardian.

**By 2030 Indian oil consumption will reach 4.5 million barrels a day, while domestic production will be only 1.9 million barrels a day. Given that India already imports 45 percent of its oil from the Middle East, it is highly likely that India will remain dependent and even increase its dependence on oil imports from the Middle East.

**India’s trade with the six GCC states (excluding oil) totaled $86.9 billion in FY 2008-9, surpassing India’s trade with the EU ($80.6 billion), the ASEAN ($44.6 billion), and the US ($40.6 billion). Looking to the future, Indian leaders have expressed a desire to continue the rapid expansion of trade, Gulf investment for major infrastructure projects, and broaden their Gulf State relationships beyond economics.

**Indians account for 550,000 out of Oman’s 570,000 expatriate workers. Oman hosts India’s largest overseas joint venture -- the $969 million Oman India Fertilizer Company.

**Of Qatar’s population of under 1 million, roughly 300,000 are Indians. The two countries remain close partners in the hydro-carbon sector, especially LNG. In November 2008 a plan was announced for Qatar to invest $5 billion in India’s energy sector.

**As of year-ended March 2007, the UAE was the fifth largest exporter to India, supplying 8 percent of India’s petroleum imports and the second largest destination for India’s exports, behind the United States, with total imports one-third higher than those from China. India’s trade with the UAE accounts for one-third of India’s trade with the Middle East. More than 3,300 Indian companies have opened offices or manufacturing units in the UAE.

**With $626 million invested, UAE was the top direct investor in India among Middle Eastern countries from 2000 through February 2008. India has requested $92 billion for the Delhi-Mumbai industrial corridor. In March 2007 India and UAE firms signed a real estate deal worth more than $20 billion, which included plans to build two large townships in the booming outskirts of New Delhi.

**Currently 33 percent of UAE’s population and 50 percent of its work force are Indian -- about 1.4 million people. (Pakistani nationals number over 860,000). 25 percent of the Indian population consists of professionals and business people. There are some 100 cultural and literary associations in the UAE and more than 50 schools that follow an Indian curriculum.

**More than 500,000 Indians reside in Kuwait. Indo-Kuwaiti trade has grown three-fold since 2003 and reached $6.6 billion in 2007, of which petroleum constituted $5.7 billion. Kuwait has increased cooperation with Indian firms in the realm of information technology and biotechnology, as reflected in the number of Indian experts in those fields working in Kuwait.

**India is important to Bahrain’s economy because 290,000 Indian blue and white collar workers live there, making up nearly 30 percent of its total population. However, India does not rank among Bahrain’s top trading partners, as bilateral trade has not risen above 3 percent of Bahrain’s overall trade in the last five years.

**The energy sector is an important part of the India-Iranian relationship.

**India, Iran and Russia are cooperating on the North-South corrider project, the goal of which is to create a maritime-railway link between Mumbai and St. Petersburg through Bandar Abbas, Iran, that would shave more than 6000 miles off the current maritime route.

**There are uncertainties in India’s relationship with Iran, though American withdrawal from Afghanistan will probably bring the two countries closer. In April 2008 M K Narayanan, India’s then National Security Adviser, said that there is a "great deal taking place between India and Iran which is not on the public realm."

**Despite its low-key diplomacy, a number of issues could eventually force India to flex its muscles and become a more active player in Middle East geopolitics.

**China has productive and deepening relationships with many states in the Greater Middle East, including Pakistan, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf States. Its voracious appetite for resources and its other economic needs match the economic profiles of the countries in the region. China’s growing physical links with the countries of Central Asia, and especially Pakistan, will open up new road, rail, and pipeline routes that will eventually directly influence trade, politics, and commerce in the Middle East.

**China is one of Iran’s top trading partners. Total trade between the two countries rose from $3.1 billion in 2001 to a staggering $27 billion in 2008. More than 100 Chinese firms operate in Iran, primarily in dam and ship construction, steel production, the energy sector, and seaport and airport development. However, Chinese infrastructure investment in Iran pales in comparison with its investment in Pakistan. Of the Pakistani projects, the development of the port of Gwadar is of particular interest to Iran because it has the potential to reduce the influence of Iran’s port at Chahbahar and displace Iran as a pathway to Central Asian markets.

**Iran has become the largest market for Chinese arms exports. China is Iran’s major source of missile guidance equipment. China has, however, been careful not to overplay its hand in challenging the United States on the key issues of nuclear activites, terrorism and antagonism toward Israel and efforts to derail the Arab-Israeli peace.

**Trade between Saudi Arabia and China has grown significantly. Saudi is a major investor in China.

**In addition to a bilateral military relationship between China and Saudi Arabia, there are reports that the Saudis have reached an agreement with Pakistan to station nuclear weapons on Saudi soil in the event that Iran develops a nuclear bomb.

**Although China’s relations with the small Gulf states are not as extensive or as intimate as India’s, China has made remarkable progress in developing business ties with them.

** The strategic basis of Sino-Pakistani relationship is a shared need to provide a check on India. The Sino-Pakistani engagement has limited India’s strategic options and forced it to occupy a defensive posture since 1962. Pakistan is "China’s Israel." No matter what action the Pakistani government takes, China will back it, because of China’s need to check India’s power. However, it is unlikely that China will directly challenge US power and influence.

The chapter on "Asia and Israel" focuses mainly on "India and Israel" and "China and Israel":

**Israel has one of the Middle East’s most robust economies, regulated by democratic institutions and a vigorously independent judiciary. It also has an advanced technology sector that is especially innovative in high-tech agriculture, medicine, information technology and, most important, aerospace and defense.

**The emerging India-Israeli relationship was codified in 2001 with the creation of the Joint Defense Cooperation Group which meets annually to solidify defense deals and military ties and coordinate the security relationship. Counter-terrorism efforts were formalized with the formation of an Indo-Israeli Joint Working Group on Counter Terrorism.

**Economic ties between Israel and India have grown swiftly. India is Israel’s second largest trading partner in Asia in non-military goods. India and Isael have been cooperating on their respective space programs. Agricultural cooperation also has been important.

A quote from the section on "China and Israel’:

"The focus of Sino-Israeli cooperation has been military relations. Israel and China began to engage in extensive military cooperation as early as the 1980s .......and some estmate that Israel sold arms worth $4 billion to China during that period." (Page 139).

Again,

"By purchasing arms from Israel, China is able to circumvent the [US and EU arms] embargoes and secure advanced military technology that would be otherwise unavailable." (Page 139).

"[Notwithstanding US pressure which forced Israel to cancel a Chinese order for PHALCON airborne early warning systems in July 2000], "China’s market for high-tech Israeli military products is growing, and Israel sees China as a major customer. According to a report from the US-China Security Review Commission, "Israel ranks second only to Russia as a weapons provider to China and as a conduit for sophisticated military technology,.....". (Page 140).

Last quote:

"China has now become a vital market for Israel’s extensive military industries and arms manufacturers. Israel also has limited its cooperation with Taiwan in order to foster closer ties with China."

Recently, I had an opportunity to participate in a conference call with Israel’s ambassador to India Mark Sofer when I asked the following question:

In view of the close military cooperation being developed between Israel and India and in view of the fact that China may well turn out to be an enemy of both India and the US over the medium to longer term, is it proper for Israel to continue to supply advanced and sophisticated weapons and technology to China?

His unhesitating answer: Israel does NOT supply weapons to China.

Here are some more salient points emerging from Kemp’s book:

**The unresolved Arab-Israeli conflict manifests itself at three critical levels: Israel’s ongoing battles with the Palestinians, particularly in Gaza; the possibility of renewed conflict between Hezbollah and Israel; and Israel’s long-standing confrontation with Syria, including the occupation of the Golan Heights. The fact that Iran is deeply involved in arming and supporting Syria, Hezbollah, and Hamas escalates the traditional Arab-Israeli conflict.

**Since most of the commerce between the Middle East and Asia goes by sea or air over long tracks of the Indian Ocean, the security of the maritime environmnent is a key factor in economic growth. Also, most of the communications between Asia and the Middle East are increasingly dependent on undersea cable networks.

**For the next two decades, and probably longer, the basic security of the Gulf and the Indian Ocean will depend on the United States. The costs of sustaining the US presence are huge especially if the US economy is in turmoil and Afghanistan commands major defense commitment.

**In different ways, both India and China are expanding their maritime reach and both have reasons to be concerned about each other’s long term strategic objectives. Japan’s future maritime role also could be an important factor in the emerging Asian balance of power.

**Over the longer run, as road, rail and pipeline projects expand in Central Asia and beyond, perhaps into the Middle East, the security of the land routes will become more significant especially for China. Would the Indian Ocean then become less important for China’s commerce with the Middle East?

**Meantime, while aircraft carriers and advanced submarines of the United States will ensure that Washington retains the ability to exert sea control in the long term, the modernization plans of the Indian and Chinese navies could lead to a multipolar balance of power in the Indian Ocean. Both the Indian and Chinese navies are conducting exchange and outreach programs beyond their normal areas of operation. Chinese forces have worked with Pakistan in the Arabian Sea, and India has participated with the United States and Japan in tri-nation naval exercises as far away as the Sea of Japan. This combination of rising naval powers with overlapping areas of interest will not necessarily lead to conflict.

**Rather their overlapping interests could lead to further cooperation between navies beset by a variety of low-intensity conflicts and potential nonconventional challenges , such as piracy, maritime terrorism, and disasters requiring humanitarian relief.

**It would be many years, if not decades, before any of the Asian powers will be able to duplicate the magnitude of current US maritime forces in the Indian Ocean and west Pacific.That could happen if the US unilaterally decides to downgrade its maritime presence. Or, if China, India or Japan or any combination of the three decide to dramatically upgrade their current maritime expansion programs and seek and obtain the access rights to port facilities and air bases necessary for power projection and sea-lane protection missions.

**The US and India have been expanding their cooperation on defense and security since the mid-1990s, and it has resolved into what could be a durable defense partnership. This has important ramifications for the long-term security of the Gulf and Indian Ocean, including broadening the range of US naval operations and increasing cooperation in securing sea-lanes. Military-to-military interactions between India and the US, including air, land and sea exercises, have also increased in recent years. The DOD has stated that it is the goal of the US to help India meet its defense needs, including by providing assistance with important capabilities and technologies that India seeks.

**Military relations between China and the United States have displayed the greatest volatility of those between the US and any other foreign nation, alternating between periods of intense engagement and increasing tension.

**India considers the security of the entire Indian Ocean region -- from the Cape of Good Hope to the Horn of Africa and the Straits of Malacca and as far South as Antarctica -- to be of interest, with the Arabian Sea, the Bay of Bengal, and the Gulf having primary importance. While the Indian navy has consciously and publicly stated its will to be the dominant power in the Indian Ocean, it has taken care to demonstrate its increasing capability in a manner that neither challenges the other powers operating in the region nor threatens the smaller states of the Indian Ocean littoral. Its strategy is to build its capability to provide regional security in cooperation with other regional navies.

**In the long run, India probably will play the role of integrator in the Indian Ocean region, helping to bring widely separated littoral nations together through trade and diplomacy.

**While US support will facilitate India’s drive to become the dominant Asian power in the Indian Ocean, it also is likely to serve as a catalyst for China’s continued expansion of its offensive naval capabilities.

As for the future, Kemp presents four different scenarios that could influence the development of Middle East-Asia relations:

(a) Growth and Prosperity, the best-case analysis, assumes strong economic growth in Asia with China and India leading the way.

(b) Mayhem and Chaos, the second scenario, the opposite of the first, will arise if the world economic situation weakens, and India, China and Japan suffer a major reduction in their growth rates. In this scenario major disruptions can be expected, with dire consequences for two-thirds of the planet’s population.

(c) Asian Balance of Power, the third scenario, assumes that while economic growth on a global level resumes and India, China and Japan continue to show economc strength, the overall prosperity of the western world -- especially the US -- weakens. In all probability, India would then play a key role, particularly in the Gulf. Indeed, India would be more assertive if it felt that China was encroaching on a region in which India believes that it should have hegemonic control.

(d) International Cooperation, the fourth scenario, assumes that while the world economic situation may not be as rosy as in scenario one, there nevertheless remains a strong interest on the part of all the major industrial powers to secure energy supplies. The US will continue to play a responsible and significant role in the maritime peackeeping operations in the region.

There could, of course, be any number of potential wild cards that could be disruptive.

Reviewing the book for the Indian Express, Raja Mohan says (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-o ... s/676985/0):

"Whichever scenario might eventually prevail, the case for questioning the conventional wisdom in Delhi about the Middle East is apparent. The Indian debate on the Middle East has been a hostage to slogans about the United States. India must now confront the impact of Chinese power on the Gulf and India’s own opportunities in the region."

Are the policymakers in New Delhi listening?

Notwithstanding the surprisingly incorrect information about the Kashmir issue furnished on page 104, the book on the whole presents a lucid and well balanced picture of Asia-Middle East relations, especially the role of India and China.

It’s a book that must be read, analyzed and used as background material by foreign policy experts in and outside governments.

Cheers,

Ram Narayanan
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Kings, clerics and the paradox of Saudi society

http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/ ... di_society
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KSA does not have enough F-15 pilots. So traditionally TSPAF pilots fill the gap. They are currently flying F-15's confirms IOL. As KSA bankrolls TSP, in return TSP send their best of the best from the Navy and Air Force. These pilots will be trained in the US and in US base in Spain.

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KSA bailed out the F-15 factories. Which may be temporarily closed in 2012, first production order for the F-15 isn't until 2013.
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Abu Dhabi has bought into many of Dubai's strategic investments and has a strong leverage over Dubai's economy. This happened during the bailout, Abu Dhabi supposedly got many of Dubai's real estate projects at good prices. Fact - Abu Dhabi is now calling the shots in all the emirates.

Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid is under tremendous pressure apparently. Lot of watchers saying that he looks old and he has never been seen so much in the public, than in the last few months. He has been on CNN, Bloomberg to tell investors worldwide that Dubai is back. He has started relying on his sons and others to take more prominent roles. His key boys: Emaar Chairman Mohd Ali Alabbar, Sultan Bin Sulayem and DIFC chief have been sidelined by Abu Dhabi.

Looks like the bulk of the purchases have gone via Mubadala Development Co which is owned and run by Crown Prince of Abu zhabi Mohd bin Zayed.

Looks like Abu Dhabi asked for stake in the Crown jewel of Dubai - Emirates Airline. Sheikh Mo took the first flight out to have a chat with King A of KSA. This loosened Abu Dhabi a little bit who are vary of KSA money coming into the UAE.

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Saudi Assistant MoD Prince Khaled bin Sultan met with Liam Fox (Def sec UK). Meeting was attended by GID Chief Muqrin, RSAF Commander, military attache UK, UK ambassador to KSA.

Looks like Khaled bin Sultan has some problems with King A. His father CP and MoD KSA has been told to reduce work duty.

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UAE & KSA are backing moves by Bahrain rulers on their opposition crackdown. CP of Abu Dhabi made a strong statement saying "whatever harms the security of Bahrain harms and threatens the security of the UAE".
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GID chief is due in TSP to meet with Nawaz Sharif. FM of TSP Qureshi met with Muqrn in ealy sept, without meeting FM KSA or King A. Qureshiarrived in Jeddah just the next day after Kayani had left the KSA after a 4 hour meeting with King A. Wonder what they talked about...
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What do all those tidbits mean to India? Maybe time to inaugurate the blog?
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Yes, needs to be done.

Saudi Arabian legislature approves extradition treaty with India
Saudi Arabia's legislative body, the Shura Council, has approved the draft agreements of an extradition treaty and a prisoner exchange deal with India inked during Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit to Riyadh early this year.

"The two draft agreements were approved following detailed discussions by the members," the council said in a statement.

The agreements, the council agreed, should be executed for better security and stability of the two countries.

"This would help the two friendly countries not only strengthen bilateral relations but also serve the interests of the citizens of the respective countries who are living in each other's states," he said.

During Singh's visit to the kingdom in March this year, five bilateral agreements, including an extradition treaty and the agreement on transfer of prisoners, were signed.

The extradition treaty is part of efforts to step up bilateral cooperation in the area of security and will help in apprehending wanted persons in each other's country.

It will be in line with the standard format followed across the world and will be governed by international law, an official said.

The agreement on prisoners will facilitate the transfer of Indian prisoners back to India where they will be able to serve the remaining part of their sentences given by a Saudi court.
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Saudi Arabia suspends recruitment of Sri Lankan workers
..when a srilankan SDRE dared to complain, blighting the camel herder's echendee :evil:
Doctors removed 13 nails and five needles from the Sri Lankan maid in August. She said her employer had hammered them into her body.
Saudi officials say her claims are baseless and harmful to their country.
A spokesman in the Saudi government told the BBC that the main reason for the suspension was not Ms Ariyawathie's claims but the Sri Lankan authorities's failure to train maids adequately. :rotfl:
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^ :evil:

Some Indian/Srilankan should return the favor on a visiting shek (looking for child brides). That is the only way these desert-savages will learn.
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Adding to the titbits that shyamd posted above:

AD's Mubadala has not just taken over the Dubai govt' constuction companies Emaar and Nakheel (which is bigger than Emaar), but also many contractors dependant on them. The largest contractor to Nakheel (I forget the name), owned by a Lebanese person, was also taken over by Mubadala. This happened last year itself and the going price was 20 cents to the dollar. That is, the owner's were given 20% of the value of the work they had already completed. Apparently, AD officials told them - 'you can take 20% or you can take 0%' :)

All in all, the past year has been VERY GOOD for AD.

Dubai was the only emirate that did not listen to AD. After this crisis and his dependance on AD, the Dubai Emir has no independance left.


AD and KSA have a very mean rivalry going on. A little background - GCC was to form its own integrated common economy and common currency, like EU and Euro. Everything was decided by last year, except one thing - the location of the central bank. KSA insisted Riyadh and AD insisted AD. Apparently, the location of the central bank would also imply it is the location of the capital of a united Arabian peninsula. The talks were so stuck that AD eventually walked out, and there has been no further movement on this issue for over an year.

Remember that AD ruler is called Khalifa - leader of the Islamic world. He is also the richest person in the world - their sovereign wealth fund (ADIA) is the largest such fund in the world, alleged to be in excess of USD 600 billion. KSA king can claim more religious authority as he is the caretaker of Mecca and Medina. So, the talks are stuck until one of them gives.


What is more interesting is the Dubai emir chit chatted with KSA king when he was facing pressure from AD. It shows the level of fractitiousness that has entered the AD-Dubai relationship and does not bode well for UAE.


AD is sitting pretty, they has large amounts of oil and larger amounts of NG - the fuel of the future. They also have a small local population, unlike KSA which has the largest population in Arab oil countries. This gives AD much more leverage and freedom in the coming years.
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There have been consequences for UAE foreign policy as well.

The shift in the balance of power to Abu Dhabi from Dubai has meant that the UAE has gone from neutrality towards Iran, to active hostility. Iranian businesses, especially those connected to the Iranian state have been having a very hard time. The UAE still wants the two islands Iran seized under the Shah after British withdrawal in 1971.

Passing through Dubai a couple of months back it did seem like the cranes were moving again though, thanks to the confidence supplied by Abu Dhabi's backing.
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Yes.

Dubai, lacking natural resources of any kinds (esp hydrocarbons), has always lived on its wits. Its tradition of smuggling independant trading :D means it likes to keep good relations with all its neighbours, and beyond. Hence its good relations with Iran. AD on the other hand is much more pro US.

Dubai allowed trading of many goods that were embargoed on Iran. Destruction of Dubai's independance means that Iran lost a very strong friend and economic partner in GCC.


Iran has leverage because it strides the Straits of Hormuz, and despite being militarily weaker (even to UAE singly), it has the potential to disrupt the global oil supply. The pipeline across UAE that would bypass this is expected to be completed by the end of this year. You can expect fireworks against Iran after that. :idea:
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abhishek, i doubt that iran is weaker than the UAE. the latter has the toys, but the former has the smarts and the will
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I wonder what would have been the consequences if instead of Abu Dhabi, India, or say an Indo-Japanese combine had invested in Dubai. Could then India have coerced the Dubaians to accept the Indians in Dubai as UAE citizens?

42.3% of residents in Dubai are Indian nationals. That is around 1.5 million people in whole of UAE. Of course, Emiratis could still have reserved the higher government seats to Emiratis only, so that they do not lose their privileges in a sea of Indians. But this may be a thought that deserves to be kept in mind.
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Over 80% of the population of UAE is made of expats, who will never be made citizens or buy land/houses there. The largest contingent is India, followed closely by Filipinos.

Arab governments like Indians better than citizens of any other country. Why? We are law abiding, educated, and do not take part in political activism. Local governments prefer Indians becasue we do not intermarry with local women (being non-muslim), no chance of unwanted marriages :).

Pakis are detested the second most, most detested are Egyptians. Pakis are known as drug dealers as well as politically active. Lebanese are respected for business acumen. The most disturbing thing about pakis is their potential connection to terrorists/AQ. Arab governments/charities/individuals may fund such people outside, but do not want them in.

95% of locals are employed in givernment and only 5% in private/self employed. It is exactly reverse for expats. UAE government offices close by 1 PM (pre lunch), as the government is trying to push locals to start their own businesses - fat chance of that happening. They can be paid twice as much as expat for the same post.

They are too dependant on oil and consequent government largese. They have a chance of developing a strong work ethic while the going is good. But there is no pressure in their society to do so. The inevitable loss of oil revenue (whenever that happens) will tear their societies apart as they are too addicted to the good life without working for it. They are inclined to status games.

A large percentage of filipino girls are prostitutes. Many chinese are entering the country, women are prostitutes and men are criminals. Currently their numbers are too small that they have not been noticed. It will change in a few years time. The chinese do not understand that if the Arab governments feel their social fabric is threatened by Chinese, they will just throw them out. Energy hungry China does not have any leverage over energy surplus Arab country.

Arabs are very concious of any threat to their social fabric. It is a red line for them.

RajeshA, If India tried to force the issue as you say - it would have been resisted by the whole Arab world - as they would understand that they are next on line.
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Lalmohan wrote:abhishek, i doubt that iran is weaker than the UAE. the latter has the toys, but the former has the smarts and the will
If US/allies attack Iran, it will be a limited war because of several constraints (domestic pressure in aggresor countries beng just one). IOW, an air war is the only feasible option. Taking out the nuclear reactor will also only need air power. In that field Iran is no match for any Sunni air force, including pakis.
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pakis in particular
i dont think the other sunni airforces have serious offensive capability
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abhischekcc wrote:Arabs are very concious of any threat to their social fabric. It is a red line for them.

RajeshA, If India tried to force the issue as you say - it would have been resisted by the whole Arab world - as they would understand that they are next on line.
abhischekcc ji,

thanks for your feedback. I am curious about what would happen once the Oil starts running out, or one finds another source of abundant energy. Probably the emirates too would start losing their appeal. Dubai may not stay as a rare free trading outpost. Other places can give it a run for its money. In such a world, would Dubai then be more open to a real partnership with India, which also includes citizenship?
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rajesh-ji, absolutely
look back 200 years and you'll see what will happen to the mid east again. dubai trading families used to have one son on a ship and another in bombay
the great arabian desert will return to the oryx and camel once more
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Lalmohan ji,

I'm just doing a little bit of out-of-the-way-dreaming here.

Let's just consider what would happen if Indians are allowed citizenship of Dubai. If Indians living in Dubai become Dubai citizens, then Dubai in fact becomes incapable of sinking - financially or otherwise.

The money from a rising India would keep on flowing to Dubai and Dubai would retain its preeminent position as a rich free-trading hub. This money would flow in especially once the petrodollars stop financing the boom. The Emiratis who are accustomed to having a high standard of living can still keep their privileged position as say 'native' to the land, and hence only they being allowed in the upper-most echelons of political power there. But Indians would be allowed into government jobs, into military service, and can buy property and do business. The trading families of Dubai could invest in India and thus buy insurance for their fortunes, so they get something out of this relationship too.

If this option is allowed only to Indians, which would be wise on the part of the Dubai Emiratis, then that means the RAPE would lose a very important watering hole they could call their second home.

The Gulf Arabs need the Indians to give stability to their lands, to balance off the more radical people amongst their own people who would want to usurp power - the Egyptians, the Palestinians, the Pakistanis and the rest.

Getting Dubai to revise their citizenship policy would be a major coup by India, and I think Indians should keep on trying it in the background, giving the Dubai Sheikhs more reasons to take into consideration.
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