News - Osama Bin Laden - killed In Pakistan

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 May 2011 23:36

The compound has been positively identified.

The google earth placemark is available here: Click

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 02 May 2011 23:36

Here is the Compound of OS Mama in Abbot Abad

Inspiration** from Gagan ( Thanks), Heads** up from Ajit here

34°10'10.46"N
73°14'33.55"E

The location, not far from where Gagan put his fingers

Close up. The building Started in 2004 and was almost complete and looking formidable in 2005 itself.

The Compound in outlined boundary. Matches closely with ABC photo and Sketch.

Well been busy, and out of communication link esp TV and now only watched fascinatingly that OS mama is dead. Sad Day for Pakistan as its soul has gone. Good For Unkil and some more bad news in future for India. Need to be doubly alert to see how it plays out.
I think Pakis were hiding OS mama ever since he escaped Tora bora. He moves here in 2005 probably under the wings of Pak Army and ISI. It is also the conventional wisdom on brf but others were willing to give a long rope to Pakis ( literally to hang themselves in public in true Sharia istyle).

**spelling corrected later.

udayan · Post by **udayan** » 02 May 2011 23:37

Gentlemen please watch Arnab go after Pakis now here http://live.indiatimes.com/default.cms?timesnow=1

Sam · Post by **Sam** » 02 May 2011 23:37

Anujan wrote:I call shenanigans on "Appropriate Islamic Burial" for OBL. Apparently parts of his sister's body have been preserved till today to get a DNA match. Now why am I having trouble believing that OBL was disposed off *immediately*

a. Existence of a part of Osama's sister's body does not mean that she was NOT buried
b. There would not be many takers for converting Osama's sister's grave as a shrine
b. Agree, Osama's burial at sea does not imply that any part of his body is NOT saved for some future use. We don't want a place where future jihadis can go on pilgrimages to Osama's tomb. Burial at sea imo is the best way to say '... we don't know where the remains lie.'

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 May 2011 23:41

There are two streams of terrorism against US from Af-Pak:Al-Q and Taliban. OBL demise will affect the first stream. Mullah Omar might shed a tear or let out a few wails.

Sorting the Haqqanis is needed for the second stream.

Against India there is LeT and JeM and all the collection of Cashmere terrorists:HUM, HUA etc.

Gagan If the bldg was started in 2005 then Hotel/Villa Laden could have been built by TSP with the US baksheesh to Mushy post 2003!

Wonder impact on US public once they figure this one out?

a_kumar · Post by **a_kumar** » 02 May 2011 23:43

suryag wrote:Guys we should buy 6 blackhawks paint it black and station it in our Jalalabad consulate . Then send in indians with their skin lightened and hair blonded into Pakisatan and get the guy we want, looks like that route is free for use

Add call to GHQ, with a warning of GMD in Obama's voice.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 02 May 2011 23:45

ShyamSP wrote:They say he lived in that compound for 5 years. He might have lived some Paki hideout before.

he was always in a paki hideout...since he left Sudan.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 02 May 2011 23:46

Statements from US like "trying everything we can to prevent reports of denial of Bin Laden's killing" and "Widow of 9/11 saying this episode brings the issue to "closure"" are curious (at least to me).

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 02 May 2011 23:48

SOC at MP.net (same SOC from keypubs ?)

Keep your friends close and your enemies outfitted with F-16s

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... ost5620088

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 May 2011 23:51

Actually one should wonder at GWB's NS team right after 9/11 thru 2008 and how they fudged the issue and protected TSP while it protected OBL and other snakes.
What has that i**** Al Trinidadi has to say with his "past is past" nonsense?

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 02 May 2011 23:54

Fantastic Press Conference by John Brennan if you guys heard it.

a) Pakistan was informed after the "aircraft" crossed into Afghanistan.
b) Pakistan were in the pocess of scrambling their assets.
c) Qaida a wounded tiger, not yet dead. And other affiliates need to be destroyed.
d) Believes that many Pakistanis have co-operated on the war on terror, but Osama had support from other elements.
e) 99.9% confident about it being OBL
f) OBL buried at sea and working on whether they should release pictures.

The rest we all have heard in trickles.

Cheers

Harish · Post by **Harish** » 02 May 2011 23:54

In would say the time is ripe for another massive terrorist attack on India. Unkil has castrated Al-Q; what better option for the pakis other than to unleash a massive attack against India to keep the grieving jihadis under control.

Another thing is we dont know what agreement has been entered into by unkil with the pakis. It might involve some sort of wink-wink arrangement for when the pakis unleash another attack on us to let out steam.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 May 2011 23:56

Image released about half and hour back by Digital Globe taken earlier this year.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 May 2011 23:56

Compound in Pakistan was once a safe house

Dubai: The compound in Abbottabad where Osama Bin Laden was killed was once used as a safe house by Pakistan's premier intelligence agency ISI, Gulf News has learnt.
"This area had been used as ISI's safe house, but it was not under their use any more because they keep on changing their locations," a senior intelligence official confided to Gulf News. However, he did not reveal when and for how long it was used by the ISI operatives. Another official cautiously said "it may not be the same house but the same compound or area used by the ISI".
The official also confirmed that the house was rented out by Afghan nationals and is not owned by the government. The house is located just 800 metres away from the Pakistan Military Academy and some former senior military officials live nearby.
Abbottabad is a garrison town located just 50 kilometres north of Islamabad and it is a popular summer resort, originally built by the British during colonial rule. The city houses a number of upscale educational institutions and religious schools as well.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 May 2011 23:56

amdavadi wrote:Nukes are with unkil..helos took the nukes once they picked up OBL....

Pakis are terrorist now the whole word agrees with India.

The rumor is that as the helos flew back, some got an itch to eat some Pesahwari naan and tandoori chicken; so they ordered it from the air, swooped down and picked the order up....there were still no signs of Paki jets. The SF are suing GoUSA for the entire operation being no fun and totally anti-climax. In addition, they also picked up some strong Afghani Chai on the way. It is also heard that the reasons Paki jets did not scramble was because their tires lacked enough air to overcome the potholes on the runway. So they ordered this.... and you know donkeys travel slowly onlee.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 May 2011 23:58

Groper's first official statement "Positive messaging about Pakistan rather than finger pointing is the need of the hour"

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 03 May 2011 00:02

Anujan wrote:Groper's first official statement "Positive messaging about Pakistan rather than finger pointing is the need of the hour"

Messaging or Massaging ?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 May 2011 00:02

rajanb wrote:Fantastic Press Conference by John Brennan if you guys heard it.

a) Pakistan was informed after the "aircraft" crossed into Afghanistan.
b) Pakistan were in the pocess of scrambling their assets.c) Qaida a wounded tiger, not yet dead. And other affiliates need to be destroyed.
d) Believes that many Pakistanis have co-operated on the war on terror, but Osama had support from other elements.
e) 99.9% confident about it being OBL
f) OBL buried at sea and working on whether they should release pictures.

The rest we all have heard in trickles.

Cheers

Makes one wonder about all their vaunted nukes with corps commanders with delgated launch authority etc nonsense.

So after 40 min the TSPA get informed about the operation by US and don't find out by themselves!

Zardari should order an inquiry into what Kiyani was doing. On second thoughts he will find out he was doing nothing Kiya Nahi!

I think Kiyani will have move on as its failure of command and he loses izzat.

prithvi · Post by **prithvi** » 03 May 2011 00:04

Pakistani "Troops" carrying the remains of the downed chopper .... the whole thing has a touch of nonchalance associated with it.. which makes it really funny... instead of army troops .. Pakistan wants to display civilians taking care of these sensitive work.. guess they (Pakistani Army and ISI) are desperate to distance themselves from it

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 03 May 2011 00:08

Anujan wrote:Groper's first official statement "Positive messaging about Pakistan rather than finger pointing is the need of the hour"

Their cricket team captain said much the same thing after he tried to swallow a ball - "Don't ask negative questions".

These guys...

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 03 May 2011 00:09

Sam wrote:22 seconds in the video clip is it dialysis (or lota) machine?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13260250

Looks like a portable something. Isnt a dialysis machine bigger than that?

Note the prescription medicine bottles in the video. As we know there is a medical hospital nearby. Someone should connect the dots and question the doctors there.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 03 May 2011 00:10

prithvi wrote:Pakistani "Troops" carrying the remains of the downed chopper .... the whole thing has a touch of nonchalance associated with it.. which makes it really funny... instead of army troops .. Pakistan wants to display civilians taking care of these sensitive work.. guess they (Pakistani Army and ISI) are desperate to distance themselves from it

When USA demands that Pakistan returns the remains of the helicopter just in case something remained intact, Pakistanis will say non-state actors took the parts away!

The parts are going directly to China for further study!

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 03 May 2011 00:11

CIA's Assassination Squad Plans to Kill Al-Qaeda Leaders

The CIA ran a secret program for nearly eight years that aspired to kill top al-Qaeda leaders with specially trained assassins, but the agency declined to tell Congress because the initiative never came close to bringing Osama bin Laden and his deputies into U.S. cross hairs, U.S. intelligence and congressional officials

Manish Jain · Post by **Manish Jain** » 03 May 2011 00:14

Christopher Hitchens -

http://www.slate.com/id/2292687/

The martyr of Abbottabad is no more, and the competing Führer-complexes of his surviving underlings will perhaps now enjoy an exciting free rein. Yet the uniformed and anonymous patrons of that sheltered Abbottabad compound are still very much with us, and Obama's speech will be entirely worthless if he expects us to go on arming and financing the very people who made this trackdown into such a needlessly long, arduous and costly one.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 03 May 2011 00:16

prithvi wrote:

Why did they hire Afridi (or his cousin) to clean up the mess?

prithvi · Post by **prithvi** » 03 May 2011 00:18

anupmisra wrote:
prithvi wrote:
Why did they hire Afridi (or his cousin) to clean up the mess?

Their version of BPO

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 03 May 2011 00:24

prithvi wrote: Pakistani "Troops" carrying the remains of the downed chopper .... the whole thing has a touch of nonchalance associated with it.. which makes it really funny... instead of army troops .. Pakistan wants to display civilians taking care of these sensitive work.. guess they (Pakistani Army and ISI) are desperate to distance themselves from it

Look at the shoes of the abdul on the far left. Seems he did some "thorough investigation" of the compound

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 03 May 2011 00:27

Arnab is having a field time with the pakis.

Seems he is on a high .

prithvi · Post by **prithvi** » 03 May 2011 00:28

Anujan wrote:
prithvi wrote: Pakistani "Troops" carrying the remains of the downed chopper .... the whole thing has a touch of nonchalance associated with it.. which makes it really funny... instead of army troops .. Pakistan wants to display civilians taking care of these sensitive work.. guess they (Pakistani Army and ISI) are desperate to distance themselves from it
Look at the shoes of the abdul on the far left. Seems he did some "thorough investigation" of the compound

One on the right looks like the "4th" Akmal brother.. who had been missing for a while...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 May 2011 00:49

Gagan, In that graphic from the pdf doesn't that look like a sat dish in the foreground? So isnt that a communication device or wasit Dish network for watching Bollywood?

Second maybe BHO can hand over DCH and Rana to India to show he is turly against terrorism?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 03 May 2011 00:53

That is not a dialysis machine.
A dialysis machine is bigger, has a motor to pump the blood from the iv lines through the dialysing filters.

That might be a medical device known as a pulse oxymeter or it might be an ECG machine.

But it could be something else too.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 03 May 2011 00:53

Just for fun. Taiwanese animation of this news.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 03 May 2011 00:55

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/20 ... ghborhood/

There has never been a good alternative to dealing with the Pakistanis as a nominal ally. Their perfidy in this matter is something it’s hard to seek vengeance for. It’s not something Republicans would handle better than Democrats, or vice versa. I’ve had serious criticism for some of the Obama administration’s attitudes and methods in dealing with Pakistan, but pinning fault on him for this situation would be unfair.

What do we do? We certainly don’t react in a way that would jeopardize the campaign in Afghanistan. I’m hopeful that Obama won’t. I’d like to think his administration could come up with a more constructive level of engagement with Pakistan, but that’s unlikely. I suspect the administration will downplay the glaring evidence that senior Pakistanis not only knew where bin Laden was but had assigned him his address, and seek to move on. It’s a tough planet.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 03 May 2011 00:55

There was a TV inside that room too in that fuzzy video.
This can be seen in that ABC slideshow.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/sli ... e-13508190

So OBL was watching TV a lot. Who wants to bet he's seen Sheela ki jawani hain ji?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 03 May 2011 00:59

jarugn wrote:Bin Laden mission violated Pakistan

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -pakistan/

“If two organizations [are] conducting an operation against a common enemy, there has to be trust and confidence in each other,” he said.

Mush ... I think u didn't get the memo. there is no trust in either side. I think you are not watching news or reading new paper.

Pakistan is “totally on board” on fighting al Qaeda and Taliban.

We know that 400%. We knew you were 400%x400% true when you said you are sure 400% that that Osama is dead.

“A battle has been won, but the war continues,” Mr. Musharraf said, warning that “al Qaeda is still there.

Is that a threat to amrika that they will unleash terror?

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 03 May 2011 00:59

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Victor · Post by **Victor** » 03 May 2011 01:00

Freeze frame from the BBC linked video above at about 0.37.
Looks like a big hole in the wall of the bedroom blown by the SEALS for instant entry into the sanctum sanctorum. The firefight may have happened AFTER Osama was killed if the team went knew exactly where he was and wasted no time in achieving objective #1 asap.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 May 2011 01:01

pgbhat wrote:http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/20 ... ghborhood/
There has never been a good alternative to dealing with the Pakistanis as a nominal ally. Their perfidy in this matter is something it’s hard to seek vengeance for. It’s not something Republicans would handle better than Democrats, or vice versa. I’ve had serious criticism for some of the Obama administration’s attitudes and methods in dealing with Pakistan, but pinning fault on him for this situation would be unfair.

What do we do? We certainly don’t react in a way that would jeopardize the campaign in Afghanistan. I’m hopeful that Obama won’t. I’d like to think his administration could come up with a more constructive level of engagement with Pakistan, but that’s unlikely. I suspect the administration will downplay the glaring evidence that senior Pakistanis not only knew where bin Laden was but had assigned him his address, and seek to move on. It’s a tough planet.

This guy is writing nonsense. In the 2008 US election campaign both candidates specifically were asked about what they would do if they had info on OBL in TSP? BHO said he would attack him. McCain said he respects TSP soverignity. Romney even claimed that BHO turned from soft liner to hardliner in a week.

This was shown to be a mark of the Republican maturity.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 03 May 2011 01:26

I suspect that GWB had similar opportunities during his tenure.
But he probably decided to wait. To take out more keedas and when their network is on its last gasp to take OBL out.

BHO probably got pressured by 2012 and decided to act.

Getting keedas was always going to be a painstakingly slow wait and watch process, letting the intel guys loose on the ground and waiting for the keedas to pop up, and taking them out one at a time when they pop up.

I dunno if the future has any foreboding for Iran. It might well be the prelude to an Iran op.

Pakistan was also displaying its mardanagi these last few days by displaying its mijjiles flying off at high angles, well all that mijjile maalish resuted in what? Massa came in in the middle of the night and GUBOed the mard-e-momeen, violated their so-virginity and they didn't even know it.

All in a day's work kyon ji?

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 03 May 2011 01:31

what Uncle has done is he's showed the entire world that they can launch an operation in a nuclear armed country with good/decent weapons systems and carry it out successfully without that country's government even knowing about it.....

Iran should be deeply worried. this is indirectly a message to Iran too. the same can happen in some nuclear research facility, although the complexity of the operation will be much more and of course, Iran won't just sit around and not retaliate like Pakis......so, i guess that's a consolation for Iran. but still focus will now shift to Iran. Obama will do a "mission accomplished" and pull out of Af-Pak.