India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

[sanman]

Modi will apparently visit the US in late September

I hope his visit will galvanize US voters with ties to India

[Tanaji]

Isnt RaGa Doing a Bharat jodo yatra in US in that time frame?

[disha]

Yes RaGa will be doing his Bharat Todo yatra. His events are by invitation only.

[Vayutuvan]

Yes RaGa will be doing his Bharat Todo yatra. His events are by invitation only.

@disha gaaru, any idea why this man is doing this bharat [jt]odo yatra in the US? This is so harebrained, I can't even see the reasoning or a glimmer of his motivation behind this.

[vijayk]

all sponsored by Soros and deep state. rally the troops/indians for regime change operation

[sanjayc]

What is the US Consul visiting Owaisi for? Enquiring minds wanna know

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Why hasn't the EAM asked US consul to reduce their staff, they have around 140 of these creatures running around when India sent only around 30 to the US.

This is a major issue. It was the same with Canada embassy. An abnormally high embassy presence in India shows evil intent.

[vera_k]

Some US based hate groups are protesting an India independence parade.

Controversy erupts over Hindu temple float at New York's India Day parade

Some U.S.-based organizations have written a letter to New York City Mayor Eric Adams and New York Governor Kathy Hochul, calling the float anti-Muslim and saying it glorified the mosque's takedown.
Among groups who signed the letter were the Council on American Islamic Relations, the Indian American Muslim Council and Hindus for Human Rights.

[Mort Walker]

The float of the Ram Mandir will happen today in NYC.

Planned float in NYC's India Day Parade criticized for being anti-Muslim
Advocates take issue with a float displaying a model of the Ram Mandir, a temple built on contested religious ground in India.

“A float celebrating the construction of the Ram Temple would be divisive, and runs counter to the values of New York City,” said a letter to NYC Mayor Eric Adams signed by three South Asian lawmakers in New York: councilmembers Shekar Krishnan and Shahana Hanif, and state assembly member Zohran Mamdani.

[Mort Walker]

From Rajiv Malhotra on X:
https://x.com/RajivMessage/status/1823992987178983688

Harris victory would bring the return of Obama. This will further empower Woke and Islamize USA. Breaking India Forces are on steroids. He gave a rare glimpse in this BBC interview. Today Bangladesh, tomorrow India? I find the Delhi elites too lofty.

[VKumar]

The float of the Ram Mandir will happen today in NYC.

Planned float in NYC's India Day Parade criticized for being anti-Muslim
Advocates take issue with a float displaying a model of the Ram Mandir, a temple built on contested religious ground in India.

“A float celebrating the construction of the Ram Temple would be divisive, and runs counter to the values of New York City,” said a letter to NYC Mayor Eric Adams signed by three South Asian lawmakers in New York: councilmembers Shekar Krishnan and Shahana Hanif, and state assembly member Zohran Mamdani.

South Asian means pukistani

[sanjayc]

The float of the Ram Mandir will happen today in NYC.

Planned float in NYC's India Day Parade criticized for being anti-Muslim
Advocates take issue with a float displaying a model of the Ram Mandir, a temple built on contested religious ground in India.

South Asian means pukistani

Fanatically following a book that asks for slaughter of all non-believers is in alignment with values of New York City, I presume

[vijayk]

[vijayk]

[vera_k]

I was going to post yesterday observing that Obama looks extremely Pakistan-influenced based on the language used in that speech posted on X. Now there's this report today. Think we're underestimating Pakistani penetration of the Democratic party.

NYC mayor Eric Adams confuses India with Pakistan at India day parade

[sanman]

I was going to post yesterday observing that Obama looks extremely Pakistan-influenced based on the language used in that speech posted on X. Now there's this report today. Think we're underestimating Pakistani penetration of the Democratic party.

NYC mayor Eric Adams confuses India with Pakistan at India day parade

Eric Adams is an idiot. He wouldn't know the difference between Mexico and Spain.

Just like Kamala is an idiot. She doesn't even know the difference between North Korea and South Korea.

The Deep State like idiots - that's why they favour the Democrats more.

They haven't been fully successful in co-opting the Republican Party, where Trump has been able to take the reins of leadership.
They've been partially successful, though. That party is full of RINOs who only pay lip-service to conservatism at best.
They got Mike Johnson, who'd ran on opposing funding the Ukraine war, to totally reverse himself and support that recent $60B funding package.

[saip]

In the kingdom of idiots, imbecile is the King, moron is the Emperor

[vera_k]

FWIW, I don't think Eric Adams is an idiot.

IMO, what's happening is the Pakistanis have been representing themselves as the gateway to the Muslim vote for the Democratic party. Which is why democrat led cities considered the CAA resolutions. For Adams, mentioning India does not play to the Muslim vote, but mentioning Pakistan does. Similarly for Obama, talking about India that way gets him more Pakistan/Muslim votes. And why in this case, organizations that make allies via the Muslim constituency in the USA together wrote to Adams to stay top of mind for him. I realize I am conflating Pakistan and Muslim here, but that's what its looking like on the surface here in the latest instance with Pakistan friendly groups like CAIR, IAMC, and H4HR acting together.

Now, in a way, this can be construed as another symptom of American decline. For what mechanisms used to be commonplace overseas are now being used to target the political process in the homeland.

[sanman]

Is US Now Turning to Owaisi As Their New Agent?

[chetak]

They are not even pretending anymore

[chetak]

And now, these amriki guns are increasingly making their appearance in cashmere, in the hands of paki and other foreign terrorists

[Cyrano]

Some desi commentators are positing that us SD and deep state is desperate etc. I think the US SD/DS is actually going berserk now and will do so at least until the elections are over. When there is no one in the kitchen dogs rush in and grab whatever loaves they can. I expect them to trigger even more chaotic events all over the world in the coming months. BD coup is just warmup. Bharat needs to keep its powder dry.

[sanman]

Some desi commentators are positing that us SD and deep state is desperate etc. I think the US SD/DS is actually going berserk now and will do so at least until the elections are over. When there is no one in the kitchen dogs rush in and grab whatever loaves they can. I expect them to trigger even more chaotic events all over the world in the coming months. BD coup is just warmup. Bharat needs to keep its powder dry.

The thing is that if Trump wins, he has to hold the crazy NeoCon imperialists accountable. They were never held accountable after their initial rampage in the Bush admin -- Iraq, etc -- and so they only came back later on, when the opportunity became available.

Like Krishna's counsel to Arjun, better put an arrow through these guys once their chariot has a breakdown. Otherwise they'll just keep coming back again and again, in worser and worser ways.

[Cyrano]

When taking on something so entrenched like the DS, the dumbest thing to do is to shout about it from the rooftops.

Gives the DS lots of motivation to take Trump out - which they almost almost succeeded in doing. Now they will do everything to make Comeallah win. If Trump somehow manages to win, they will get Dems to question the results leading to a civil war like situation, manufacture global outrage outside and total civil disobedience and administrative non cooperation inside.

Please keep extra popcorn handy if you are not in the US. If you are in the US, diversify your assets, invest some of it in Bharat and keep an R2I plan ready somewhere...

Most of our desi janata cannot take on white rednecks with automatic weapons nor live in underground survival shacks for months eating canned pork and dried beef jerkie.

[bala]

They are not even pretending anymore

The Abrahmics are comfortable with other Abrahmics, eating/chewing/feasting on animal parts, grinning, satisfied tummy looks, hands folded behind, exchanged poisonous venom with each other on Evil Mudi and how to overthrow elected govt. Why, pray did Indian EAM allow these critters to roam around freely and have kumbaya sessions with opposition kind. I hope the conversations were tapped and full transcript available for IB.

[Vayutuvan]

Most of our desi janata cannot take on white rednecks with automatic weapons nor live in underground survival shacks for months eating canned pork and dried beef jerkie.

Right now, Democrats are being protected from Democrats in Chicago. Milwaukee businesses were happy RNC came to their town as they received good tips from big spenders. Businesses in Chicago around DNC venues are boarded up.

Rednecks are really not the nutjobs they are made out to be. Not all anyway. The real problem in the short term for Hindu-Americans is the Islamaoists looting, burning, and going on a rampage against Israel and their own kind. (May be should go into Understanding the US dhaga).

[Vayutuvan]

When there is no one in the kitchen dogs rush in and grab whatever loaves they can. I expect them to trigger even more chaotic events

Dogs Of War AKA Mercenaries. Blackwaters and such.

[S_Madhukar]

^^ Oligarchs

American is a Backsliding Democracy, Become an Oligarchy ("Donor Class")

Plutocracy. Most Americans would think that’s a NASA shuttle

[vera_k]

The real problem in the short term for Hindu-Americans are the Islamaoists looting, burning, and going on a rampage against Israel and their own kind.

+1. Exhibit A is that dodgy Hindus for Human Rights organization [likely a hate group masquerading as a human rights group] opposing TPS for Bangladeshis unable to return to their country on specious grounds. As if more people from "South Asia" getting to stay in the USA is a problem only if they happen to be Hindu.

[Vayutuvan]

@vera_k ji, I really loved a couple of the observations you made before. One regarding the illegal immigrants. And another I will dig up and re-post.

Increasing Hindu-Americans numbers through illegal immigration is a very intriguing strategy. This needs to be analyzed properly to see if there are adverse unintended consequences in the short time, i.e. time horizon similar to Islamaoist rise which is , in most part, due to illegal immigration and asylum seeking.

[KL Dubey]

The USA diplomats have a right to go talk to people. Any ties of concern are likely being monitored. We should be increasing our own diplomatic investments dramatically. We have < 900 diplomats worldwide, whereas USA has 20,000.

[Cyrano]

US also has an unlimited dollah printing press Saar, the whole world has been funding the US for decades now for 35T and counting.

With that kind of money sloshing around they can have even 2,000,000 diplomats if possible.

That said your point is valid. We need a lot lot more.

[Cyrano]

https://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/engli ... 35986?sm=Y

Read it in full

[Mort Walker]

The USA diplomats have a right to go talk to people. Any ties of concern are likely being monitored. We should be increasing our own diplomatic investments dramatically. We have < 900 diplomats worldwide, whereas USA has 20,000.

Bullshit. The US has NO right to interfere in the internal political affairs of another country. Who are you to tell India where to spend its limited funds for foreign affairs?

[bala]

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[nandakumar]

The USA diplomats have a right to go talk to people. Any ties of concern are likely being monitored. We should be increasing our own diplomatic investments dramatically. We have < 900 diplomats worldwide, whereas USA has 20,000.

Bullshit. The US has NO right to interfere in the internal political affairs of another country. Who are you to tell India where to spend its limited funds for foreign affairs?

No, not quite. In international diplomacy, there is a distinction between meeting a person (however politically connected he may be) and it led to incontrovertible evidence of interfering with internal affairs of India are an entirely different matter.

[Mort Walker]

^^^No. Owaiasi is a radical Islamist who happens to have been elected from a 67% Muslim district. Should India reach out to Christian nationalists like Josh Hawley or James Lankford in the US senate?

[KL Dubey]

No, not quite. In international diplomacy, there is a distinction between meeting a person (however politically connected he may be) and it led to incontrovertible evidence of interfering with internal affairs of India are an entirely different matter.

Yes.

Indian diplomats in USA also meet a wide range of people including politicians. Ultimately, all diplomats are present to advance their country's interest (in legitimate ways). They don't spend their life confined to their consulate compound.

From the USA Hyderabad consulate webpage: https://in.usembassy.gov/embassy-consul ... d/history/

Under the leadership of the Consul General, the Consulate provides a number of services to Americans and Indians.

– Provides documentary assistance and services to ensure the security and well-being of U.S. citizens in Telangana, Andhra Pradesh, and Odisha, and grants visas to Indian citizens.

– Explains and advocates the position of the United States Government and its citizens on bilateral and multi-lateral political, economic, and social issues.

– Reports to the United States Government Indian views on issues affecting American interests.

– Promotes the expansion of American exports in Telangana, Andhra Pradesh, and Odisha, advocates open markets, and assists American businesses in establishing commercial links.

– Facilitates cultural and educational exchange between the United States and India.

On a side note, it is interesting that some posters (who I have blocked some while ago) are still pasting in my posts while logged out and replying to them in provocative means.

[KL Dubey]

US also has an unlimited dollah printing press Saar, the whole world has been funding the US for decades now for 35T and counting.

Since this is already well known to the world, the logical path forward for Bharat (and the world) would be to stop funding the US over time. Simply talking about it will not do much good.

[Adrija]

Since this is already well known to the world, the logical path forward for Bharat (and the world) would be to stop funding the US over time. Simply talking about it will not do much good.

KL Dubey ji, not sure if this is meant as tongue in cheek or genuine.......... if the latter, may I submit that an august institution like BRF should be clear on the root causes of the dollar dominance and consequently its decline (or not).......... it is NOT because US is a superpower or because of the petro-dollar phenomenon... IMHO those are but outcomes of the fact that the US has been since WWII the most prosperous and consuming nation globally...

There has been only one route to prosperity since WWII and that is selling to the US market since that time for each and every country. And all they get in return is pieces of green printed paper.... which then they recycle for purchases from other countries.... so if this is true then the days of dollar dominance will set only when another country replaces the US as the most consuming market.... which I don't see happening at all anytime soon...

[bala]

The US green back strength is due to a few things which may not be obvious. Dr. Ankit Shah mentioned one of them: create chaos in the world and use sanctions on the opposing side. This instantly creates demand for US weapon sales which are high ticket priced items. The other factor is US has dominated in aviation and sells planes for the rest of the world to consume. Everyone has to buy commercial aircrafts and for a long time US was the only sole supplier. Today they have competition from Airbus of Euroland. Many subsystems for Airbus are supplied from US companies. The electronics supply chain is held in their hands. The US has managed to outsource their consumer items to other low cost nations but the companies themselves are owned/managed by US multinationals. So it appears as if other nations are supplying to the US as a consumer base. The other thing that has helped the strength of the green back is immigration of highly skilled folks from around the world. This skew in usurping talent is the reason why US holds the edge. Effectively the 35T is the money owed by the US Govt for out of control spending for lifting the pool of useless folks (follows the gaussian curve model) in the US. The useless folks include politicos, lawyer types and general populace of around 60-70%, only 20-30% produce useful stuff for the US.

Now the US is importing labor hands (illegal immigration) into the US in the hopes of arbitrage of items produced in other nation's labor pool. This will jack up prices worldwide and cause inflation globally (which has begun already!). Effectively the 35T value is being devalued across the globe.