Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

[A_Gupta]

I think the casual dismissal of their independence and sovereignty contributes to Nepali dislike of Indians.

Like Canada as US 51st state.

[KL Dubey]

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That's not correct. Nepal and Bhutan should be integrated into Bharat at the earliest. The people can be integrated relatively quickly.....

Have they expressed such a desire ?

Did J&K, or Hyderabad, express such a desire ? Was there any referendum for Goa ?

The ruler of Nepal offered integration but Banditji looked the other way.

[KL Dubey]

I think the casual dismissal of their independence and sovereignty contributes to Nepali dislike of Indians.

Like Canada as US 51st state.

Totally different situations. We've been through this BS argument before.

Bharat is a civilizational state, and Nepal and Bhutan are part of Bharat from time immemorial. The "independence" of Nepal and Bhutan was negotiated with the British, not with Bharat. There were many "princely" states in 1947 that "believed" they were better off independent and sovereign. People like Banditji had the same argument as the one you state. Luckily Patel was around. It's always those "few good men(/women)" that make the difference, quixotic referendums are not always the answer. As has been amply shown over 7 decades, neither Nepal nor Bhutan is a viable independent country.

USA and Kanadda are both new-world countries that evolved differently at the same time. Whatever be the merits of their claims, the situation is totally irrelevant vis-a-vis Bharat. Kanadda can function independently of the US, but Nepal and Bhutan are almost entirely dependent on Bharat.

The "dislike of Indians" by Nepalis, BDs, and Pawkees stems from the indoctrination and false information they have received by their education system and political class since 1950. This indoctrination is aimed at erasing their cultural roots in Bharat and imposing a new and fake identity.

[gakakkad]

Chicha Nehru is a gift that keeps on giving .

[KL Dubey]

There is nothing that indicates RA&W was involved, Balen seems to be the lead runner and he is just as anti-India as others. Why would RAW undertake an operation of this scale to replace one anti-India, Chinese puppet with another? Nepal is going to swing from crisis to crisis, India once again finds itself in catch-22 situation where not doing anything would mean allowing the Chinese (and even Pakis) to further infiltrate Nepal, and doing something means spending billions of rupees to only get more hate in return.

I guess a part of successful intelligence operations is to "leave no traces"- so, logically the argument "nothing indicates RAW hand" is not valid.

It could be a spontaneous uprising, but I mean to say that India has worked to create that environment.

I didn't say RAW is supporting Balendra Shah. Perhaps they are trying to create space for RPP instead.

As for Balendra Shah, he is indeed a India-hater, and if he continues that, he too will fail to see reality, make a mess of things and go the way of Ollie (or Yunus in BD). Or he could put up a pragmatic approach to India like the Maldivian guy (forgot his name).

Anyway, all these "India-hating" Nepali "elite" riffraff, whoever they are, need a tight collective b!tchslap - they can't survive 2 weeks without Indian largesse and friendship. Modi sarkar has been too kind and may continue that for a while.

[SRajesh]

^^A constitutional monarchy with a heavy Army hand maybe??
Is this possible at all
I know an ex-Sc judge has been hand picked but she turn out just like Your Anus!!
Given that the Army Chief addressed the nation with a Photo of King, what does this mean??
Is he hinting at the return of the kings??

[Vayutuvan]

[KL Dubey]

This "dislike of India in Nepal" subject perhaps deserves more study.

E.g., "common" Nepalis and Nepali temples wholeheartedly celebrated the consecration of Ayodhya janmabhumi.

However, PM OIlie claimed Ram was not born in India and he was instead a Nepali, and Ayodhya janmabhumi is fake. Is this a traditional Nepali belief, and if so, what and when does it originate from ? Or is it cooked up recently to create a fake identity ?

Nepal school textbooks are available online. I haven't looked at them yet.

[S_Madhukar]

There’s so many foreigners in Nepal for tourism and mountaineering it is easy for them to run influence ops against us. Lot of middle classes have also migrated abroad, they will always be encouraged to say we are not Indian. Same problem is in NE as well and we are just blind to it. The refrain will be - You look different - But you are not really Indian are you !
Casual racism against Indians is encouraged by some bad tourists like oh you guys are so handsome, strong etc etc
Younger generation is more vulnerable.
We need to fence that border for good. As a taxpayer hurts me that everyone takes us for granted and we don’t see real benefits of those relationships.
When we become rich and powerful none of this will matter. Even Han will claim they have desi heritage so will the neighbourhood

[KL Dubey]

^^Makes no sense to fence the India-Nepal border, unless you want the CCP to go ahead and build roads into Nepal through the himalayas and come right to the border of UK, UP, and BH. Instead we need to erase this border sooner than later.

[KL Dubey]

The latest:

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/ ... rim-leader

Sushila Karki: ex-CJ, a graduate of BHU Varanasi, is likely the interim PM. Another contender named Balendra Shah was dropped and now supports her. If this goes down as claimed in the article, Karki will oversee a new election.

Such an election will be interesting since the commie and pinko parties seem to be the subject of mass anger amongst the people. Will the Hindutva party RPP come into power?

It seems the RPP is very much connected to the "Gen Z" protests (and had been leading most of the previous protests). See this clip:

https://www.news9live.com/videos/world- ... hy-2887435

Also: https://ddnews.gov.in/en/gen-z-leaders- ... minister/

The DD News article mentions one RK Hamal who is among the "leaders" selecting the interim PM candidate. This guy is a central committee member of RPP. Just 1 day ago, he was arrested by police (https://english.khabarhub.com/2025/09/495138/)...and today he is selecting the interim PM

Meanwhile, back in Dec 2024 the RPP chairman claimed his party will lead the next government, possibly before the next election. Just bravado, or did he know/expect something to happen ?

https://en.himalpress.com/rpp-will-lead ... s-lingden/

Rastriya Prajatantra Party (RPP) Chairperson Rajendra Lingden has said that his party may lead the government before the 2027 election.

Addressing the Birtamod Municipal Legislative on Sunday, Lingden said the time has come for the RPP to lead the nation. “If it is not possible before the 2027 election, we will lead the country by becoming the largest political force in the country in the 2027 election,” he added.

[A_Gupta]

Sheikh Abdullah and Maharaja of Kashmir both asked to be part of India. The people of Hyderabad by a majority wanted to be part of India. Likewise with Goa.

Nepal was never annexed to British India. Nepal never offered to join India, no matter how much claims to the contrary are used to calumnize Nehru. (There needs to be some standard applied to a “offer”, otherwise, yes, Trump has a gazillion trade deals with promises of 17 trillion dollars of investment in the US, just because Trump says so. Since Pranab Mukherjee was in his late teens when this alleged offer was made, he had to have heard it from someone or read it from some source, so who/what was it?)

How many centuries does one have to exist before becoming a “civilizational state”? USA and Canada belong to the same civilization. They have additional basis for separate nationhood, yes. But they too could be a civilizational state.

[Manish_P]

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E.g., "common" Nepalis and Nepali temples wholeheartedly celebrated the consecration of Ayodhya janmabhumi.
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Hindu indians whole heartedly liked the opening of temple in the Gulf. Doesn't mean we want to integrate with it.

[Vayutuvan]

Hindu indians whole heartedly liked the opening of temple in the Gulf. Doesn't mean we want to integrate with it.

Saar, apples vs oranges. Nepal is a hindu rashtra and contiguous with Bharat. It is in the Indian subcontinent.

[Manish_P]

Saar, apples vs oranges. Nepal is a hindu rashtra and contiguous with Bharat. It is in the Indian subcontinent.

And yet we have lived happily and respectfully (for the most part) as separate entities.

Just to be clear - i am for the integration. If it comes from the people - unambiguously, vocally at the social and political levels.

Like the two germanies (not the perfect example I know)

However I repeat - have their been demands, from Nepal, for integration with India in the past. At any substantial level.