Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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Re: Air Force Tejas Mk1A: News & Discussions: 02 January 2022

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Some more serial numbers...

first picture is a twin seat trainer (LT-5208) and the second is a single seat fighter (LA-5041)

https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1967930242800173474 --->

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https://x.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1967878089175908846 ---> The third GE-404 engine for the Tejas Mk-1A which just arrived last week. These are key to the delivery of the Mk1A to the IAF.

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https://x.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1967874437065367589 ---> Not a bad day at work! Coming up - on @ndtv and #CtrlAltDefence - a no holds barred conversation with the HAL Chairman - the Tejas, it's relevance, the process of manufacture, incorporating capability. The roadmap ahead. Also saw the 3rd GE-404 engine that's just arrived.

https://x.com/MatKarma/status/1967882037295255597 ---> Dude...you are entirely too big for this craft. :-) this is what a pilot looks like on the Tejas normally. How tall are you?

https://x.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1967883099515302035 ---> 6'2. I have flown on the Tejas. Seat adjusts.

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https://x.com/rahulsinghx/status/1967837451000730077 ---> Turning to work for some fun: Inside the LCA Mk1A cockpit and with a GE F404-IN20 engine at the fighter jet's production line in Bengaluru. The aircraft & the engine are expected to dominate the defence news cycle in the coming months, and years.

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Maybe it's not a conspiracy but a genuine supply chain issue. Apparently the production of CF34 engines also facing issues.

CF34 turbofan shortages emerge as factor affecting Embraer’s E175 production
https://www.flightglobal.com/engines/cf ... 89.article
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rajkumar wrote: 16 Sep 2025 22:54 Maybe it's not a conspiracy but a genuine supply chain issue. Apparently the production of CF34 engines also facing issues.\
Saar, I posted this in the Naval Aviation thread, but posting here. Minor quibbles like supply chain issues and massive cost increases, should not affect the world's largest MIC :P

"...during the MMRCA 1.0 contest, the SE contest and the MRCBF contest...the gyan that was being doled out on BRF is that America is able to produce military hardware - due to economies of scale - at a significantly reduced cost vis-à-vis their Western counterparts (mainly France against whom all the angst - from the MUTUs on BRF - was directed at). The proof lies in the pudding."
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The integration of Astra with the new Israeli Radar has failed in the first attempt. Software update and test again soon. If it fails again, Uttam need to be brought in for the first lot as well.
10+24 Tejas Mk1A & Astra Fail
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^^^ Sir Jee, Did not see the news any where else. Is this person believable!!
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^^^^ Look upthread and there is a reliable explanation in the HT article about what happened.
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VinodTK wrote: 17 Sep 2025 18:04 ^^^ Sir Jee, Did not see the news any where else. Is this person believable!!
Yup. Little ego is there. Other than that all fine and reliable. :)
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Bharadwaj wrote: 17 Sep 2025 18:23 ^^^^ Look upthread and there is a reliable explanation in the HT article about what happened.
is the issue with mid course guidance? Any experts in here could shed more light on the issue from the details available?
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 31857.html
“The missile integration with the aircraft is complete. The aerodynamic studies, the signalling to the missile... all that is done. The safety review board has to clear the missile software changes made by the Hyderabad-based Defence Research and Development Laboratory. After Astra is fired, everybody will be happy,” he said.
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Astra-1 is the longest range AAM with the IAF today. Let that sink in!

Meteor hasn't been inducted, R-77 is relatively short-ranged and R-37 induction (if any) is miniscule

Which is why the anemic order for Astra-1 by the IAF is grating! So is the sloth of HAL to get the Astra-1 certification for Tejas-Mk1a - WTF were they doing all these years, making tall promises month after month?!

P.S: I also think that the IAF wanting to induct missiles > 200 Km range is to keep importing Rampage, Scalp, Crystal Maze, R-37, Meteor & S-400

Astra-1, Astra-2, Akash-NG are in the sub-200 Km range, So is SAAW, the G-series bombs and HSLD-Mk1. And in order to hoodwink the masses, they renamed Rampage as HSLD-Mk2

Seems like even Astra-2 is dead-on-arrival, though we have nothing better than even Astra-1 today! Astra-2, after all the trials, will get the same paltry order of 200 - 400 missiles

Only the Rudram-2 and 3, Gandhiva & Kusha will be in the > 200 Km bracket. All of them are several years away from induction, with the exception of Rudram-2. Till then, imports-galore! Then move the goalpost to > 300 Km or ask for hypersonic interception
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This must be interesting to many here... please spread the word:

You may have heard stories but straight from source is gold! Tarmak media house Anantha Krishnan made a series on Tesja with Dr Kota HariNarayana

(While Dr. Kalam's leadership was indispensable, the contribution of Dr. KH was immense)


Hamara Tejas series takes off on Oct 14 with Dr Kota Harinarayana in cockpit | Thursdays with Tejas
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Prem Kumar wrote: 18 Sep 2025 00:08 Astra-1 is the longest range AAM with the IAF today. Let that sink in!

With Due respect seeing Su-30 with J-10C sticker, I think it has the best range in subcontinent, the PL-15 seems to be easily jammed and the AIm-120C-5 seems to have lesser range. Astra MK-2 in numbers will be very useful along with Uttam/ Viprukshaka while Astra Mk3 is getting developed, it is always the Ist gen which takes the longest time, now we make the AESA seekers it is much better.

Remember whatever the PAF did on May 7 flopped as desperate Indian opposition with ecosystem(remember for whatever Western Media was also desperate to prove PAF superior) would have got the pics if there was any, further on the Night of 9 May to 10 May Morning- PAF did not show up Firing Amraams/ PL-15 while their airbases were being hammered- something went very wrong for the PAF on 6-7 May night.
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Aditya_V wrote: 18 Sep 2025 11:15
Prem Kumar wrote: 18 Sep 2025 00:08 Astra-1 is the longest range AAM with the IAF today. Let that sink in!

further on the Night of 9 May to 10 May Morning- PAF did not show up Firing Amraams/ PL-15 while their airbases were being hammered- something went very wrong for the PAF on 6-7 May night.
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Then what is that KSA have so as to Jihadi's signing 'Attack on one is Attack on both'
They wont send soldiers and their navy is in infancy!
It has to be Airforce and air defence
What do they have in their service that can counter us??
Remember they have signed billions of dollar deals with Unkil to supply what I wonder
Is this Unkil's way of indirect suplly chain co-ordinated via CENTCOM!!
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Prem Kumar wrote: 18 Sep 2025 00:08 Which is why the anemic order for Astra-1 by the IAF is grating! So is the sloth of HAL to get the Astra-1 certification for Tejas
Which makes one wonder - do they even have any Astra-1's available for the Tejas Mk1A squadrons even if integration is successfully completed? With ~500 missiles ordered (and most not yet delivered), that won't even be enough to put a pair on each of our Su-30MKIs, let alone any leftovers for the Tejas squadrons. In between, we still don't know whether the MiG-29Ks will also be equipped with them.
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